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2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • mbrownimbrowni Posts: 5
    I do have the inside scoop. From time to time, Acura offers sales people "SPINS" to help sell slower selling vehicles. While those dollars can add up, it would be hard to imagine earning $17K from that at $100-$400 or so a pop and they don't do it very often. This goes directly to the salesperson from Acura and not through the dealership.
  • zach10zach10 Posts: 6
    Got this deal at MD. Any comments?
  • vbn526vbn526 Posts: 6
    I'm experiencing the same with my MPG so you're not alone. I was told that new cars get less mpg in the beginning, but hopefully the change will happen sooner rather than later. I hope you adjust to the car because I too noticed that the pedal is much stiffer than my moms 05 camry. However, I must admit that the advanced technology is great (although a bit confusing at first). Enjoy the car! :)
  • sproutkosproutko Posts: 2
    Curious as to which dealer in MD... I'm looking purchasing a 2008 TL w/navi in the next few weeks in the Baltimore area, but willing to travel to get a great price.
  • Hey, sounds like you got a good deal. How do you like it? I have an '06 TSX 6MT and love it. Just took in in for service and saw the TL type S. Looks like a sweet car. I've thought about upgrading, but the $39k sticker price is prohibitive. Does anyone know how much I should be paying in Chattanooga, TN? Thanks
  • zach10zach10 Posts: 6
    Gaithersburg Rosenthal Acura. I got a quote form a VA dealer. I stoped by Rosenthal Acura. They offered me $200 off than the VA OTD price in 10 min. I think about $3500 below invoice is a OK deal for a 08 Acura TL.
  • sproutkosproutko Posts: 2
    Thanks. One more Q - what financing did they offer you? I ask because I got a quote that reduced the price through "dealer incentives" but specifically excluded the 2.9% financing.
  • zach10zach10 Posts: 6
    0.9% and 2.9% are excluded if you count $2500 market support. I was offered 5.9% at first, I refused and told him I could get 4.94% from my costco membership. Then he serached something on his computer (credit history or better rate?), he offered me 4.34% for 60 months.
    Hope this helps you.
  • mark196mark196 Posts: 10
    I'm starting to get some prices on a new TL Type S, the dealer I went to yesterday is include $250 for SJ/Philadelphia area advertising and $595 for protection package - I don't really want the protection package, he said he has to include it per an agreement with their union that every car they sell will have this and I do not feel that a regional marketing effort is my problem - if they want to do additional advertising that should come out of their profit, there's no direct benefit to me for that.

    My question is should I be paying these costs or are they negotiable? The car was priced about 1,000 higher than I had expected, basically because of this - I'm thinking of telling him remove the costs or I'm not interested but I'm not sure how common these are and if I can have them excluded.

    Any thoughts are appreciated.
  • otisnjotisnj Posts: 15
    The charges are absolutely negotiable.

    Use the internet to check other dealers in your area. Ask for their lowest out the door cost for the TL-S with the color / interior you want. Have the charges itemized so you know exactly what you are paying for.

    It's your call if you want to go back to the dealer you were using and ask them to match the other offers. I would not.
  • I was glad to stumble across this site. I'm not great at this car buying thing - in fact I hate it. But the best quote I got in STL for a Basic TL is 29,987 which seems high based on other posts. Does the internet price generally change much from the first offer? There are only two dealerships in STL but I'll drive to get a better deal...
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,631
    While their "union" may require them to add the $595 pro pack, your "buyer's union" allows you to decline to pay it! Try a different dealer or two, see if they are members of the same "union."

    When I bought my '05 TL in Boston area (at invoice), I wanted a base TL. No pro packs, vinyl roofs, pinstripes, spoilers, rust and dust, mop and glow, extended warranty. I had no problem buying such a car without any pressure to add such (to me) frivolities. However, YM, and region, MV... ;)

    Good luck.

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • sonycsonyc Posts: 9
    I am curious to see the accuracy of the prices paid that are reflected in the forum. I see statements such as I got a quote of $27500, $3500 below invoice is not a bad price etc.
    I live in NJ and I was politely shown the door at the 3 dealerships in my area when I asked for these prices.
    The lowest price I got was 28500 for the base TL(with splash guards, mats, locks) + dest + tax + doc fees.
    Either I am missing something, or some people here are very persuasive.

    Your comments?

    Regards,
    SC.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,747
    You'll have to link us to the claim of $27,500... There might be one?

    If you are going to pick the very lowest price reported in the forum, then expect to get that, then you'll likely be disappointed... If everyone could get the lowest price, then every post would have that price.. That doesn't mean that price wasn't legitimate.. they may have left some important detail out (trade involved, demo, etc..).. or, it might have been their lucky day... Maybe a greenpea salesman who needed a sale and the manager was having a good month and threw him a bone..

    Or.. maybe that poster didn't include destination or the $599 doc fee on their sale.. :surprise:

    If the majority of the posts say $28,300-$28,700, then picking the outlier price is not going to result in a very good success ratio.. (not that you shouldn't try)..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • guido999guido999 Posts: 8
    I got an online quote for $28,500 which included wheel locks, trunk tray, and splash guards; destination charge; and doc fees. It didn't include TTL. Most, if not all, of the information here seems legitimate, but you have to compare apples to apples. For example, selling price can differ by location, time of the month, time of year, incentives. Finally, $27,500 means nothing without knowing the details; destination charges, doc fees and "protection packages" or other dealer add ons can easily add $1,500.

    I never make a deal in person. I go to a showroom and figure out exactly what I want including colors and options and then leave. I figure car salesmen make their living negotiating prices, and that I'd have better odds over the internet. I can also cover more dealers with hardly any effort.

    It's my understanding dealers have to pay a "fee" for every car on their lot at the end of the month. The guy I bought my car from told me he gave me a good price because it was the end of their month (actually the April 24th)

    There can be a huge difference in prices among dealers in an area. There was a $3,000 difference between two dealers in the Atlanta area.

    Hope this helps,
    Guido
  • jtsaint72jtsaint72 Posts: 9
    salesman lied - even "spins" or factory spiffs don't add up to 17k.
  • astro13astro13 Posts: 26
    I contacted about 10 dealers in my area and found that the cheapest they would quote over the internet was $29,200. This included destination charges, but not TTL. I can't see how anyone is getting a deal for $28,500. I figure invoice is $30,991 + destination = $31,706. Subtract the $2,500 dealer cash and you get $29,206. I also found that most of the dealers won't give you their best price over the net because they want to get you into the dealership so they can talk you into expensive add ons.
  • zach10zach10 Posts: 6
    I think the price is depends on the area you live, and the negotiation skill you have. I am in MD/DC/VA area and got $32683 OTD for a TL w/Navi last week from a MD dealer. The first round prices they quoted me were all about $2000 to $2500 below invoice. After couple days, they lowed offer their offer.
  • guido999guido999 Posts: 8
    There are a number of reasons why you wouldn't be able to duplicate the price others have gotten. Maybe there is short supply or high demand for TLs in S. Michigan / N. Ohio. Sometimes forums are counterproductive because they make you feel cheated when you can't match the lowest price.

    IMHO, at $4.00 per gallon gas the demand for TLs is not going to pick up anytime soon. I'd expect a couple of months of demand when the 09 TLs are released and then demand will head back down. The way the economy and gas prices are looking, it's going to be a buyers market for anything with a 6 cylinder for at least the next year.
  • rpram1rpram1 Posts: 18
    Yes, indeed tlshopper1, I am in your area and these two are difficult to deal with. Did you end up getting anywhere with them on price (which one)? I thought about latching onto an 08 TL, but dealing with these two dealers is enough to make you walk away to a Lexus dealer. If you have any advice from your experience I might be willing to reconsider. They both have alot of cars on the lot from my observation.
  • astro13astro13 Posts: 26
    So is the dealer basically dipping into their holdback amount when they are selling a base TL for under $29,200 or under $31,200 w/Nav. or is there something else I am missing here? I agree with you that the gas prices should affect their sales and with the 09's arriving in the fall you would expect the 08's to be even lower in price. It will be interesting to see what they do come July and August.
  • scottnrosescottnrose Posts: 47
    It is very nice of you two to CONFIRM for us who are 'not in the know", that Honda/Acura provides salesmen some type of extra incentive (SPINS, spiffs or whatever) which allows them to sell their vehicles below "cost".

    Therefore, the best prices should be approximately:
    (Invoice, including dest.) - (Incentive to Dealer, currently $2500) - (Dealer Holdback, currently 2% of MSRP) - (SPINS, spiffs, etc., currently $100-300)

    So the next time that a salesperson retorts that he/she cannot sell this car to you at that price because they will take a "loss", you know that they are feeding you a line of .... well, you know. :D
  • jtsaint72jtsaint72 Posts: 9
    That doesn't mean the dealership is making money on YOUR deal - a salesman doesn't get to decide whether or not a deal can go through or not, that's the sales manager's decision. A spif or spin is Acura's way of rewarding a salesman for his efforts. Don't forget, this is possibly his/her only commission on that deal. They're going to demonstrate the features for you, make sure the car get's washed up propper, hook up your Bluetooth, set up the Navi, be there when you have questions later on, ect. Considering the length of time, about 3-5 years, someone buys a car, 100-300 dollars a deal is fair. You're talking about a person's lively hood here. Think about the commission a Realtor makes! You tip your server in a resturaunt 15%-20% for good service. So if you're suggestiong negotiating spins and holdback, you should also consider tipping your sales person for a job well done, assuming he earned it... ;)
  • I haven't decided anything yet. I'd like a new car and am pretty fond of the Acura (although I've never owned one) but there's quite a few other great brands I'd consider as well. I could be easily convinced to go with a convertible instead. As you mention both dealers do have quite a few cars on the lot...but I don't know if either is going to be willing to come down a few hundred more in order to close the deal...guess I'll keep shopping...
  • kennyg8kennyg8 Posts: 225
    I agree with your position. Although it is a buyer's market, particularly in light of skyrocketing gas prices, a dealership/salesman needs to make a reasonable (but small) profit to stay in business. If you insist in dipping into their hold back, who pays the rent, commission, utilities, insurance and other administrative costs associated with running a dealership? I am sure that everyone wants to pay the lowest price, but is there an end to this game when all we are talking about is only $100-200 difference when you are buying a 30k+ car? Remember when the 3G first came out, many paid MSRP. Times have changed ...

    P,S, Time is also money. And the more time you spend on bargaining, the less return you are getting on your deal.
  • astro13astro13 Posts: 26
    I don't have a problem with not dipping into the dealer holdback, but when a dealer tells me that $29,200 + TTL is the best they can do and others are saying that they are getting the same car for $28,500 + TTL without dipping into the hold back there seems to be about a $700.00 difference here. I am just trying to find out why the big discrepancy. It appears as though they are including destination charges in this amount, so there must be more money for the dealers to work with than most would think.
  • sonycsonyc Posts: 9
    Incidentally, I ended up buying the car for 29,200 (including dest. + locks,mats,splash guards).
    NJ Sales Tax was 7% + $350 (4 yr DMV) + 350 Doc fees. The other fees were around $14, one was a tire fee, and one other fee that I don't recall.

    Hope this helps.

    Regards,
    SC.
  • jtsaint72jtsaint72 Posts: 9
    Well the inside line from the SoCal market is that there are a couple BIG dealers and a lot of little fish in one pond. And in this "buyers market" the dealers are all fighting for their piece of the pie. One dealer tosses out a low-ball number because he doesn't have the color the customer wants, customer starts shopping that number, another dealer hasn't sold a car that day and it's 4:30 in the afternoon and the GM's getting miffed, next thing you know, customer settles for a different color, buys from a dealer other than the lowball because another dealer offered to do a little better on any car in stock, that dealer actually looses 1500 on this deal to just get the store open and then customer claims victory on forum... that's the LA Market in a nutshell. Every day is different and every deal is different. Bottom line, the TL is a great car and worth every penny you wind up spending for it. Once you buy, let the money go and give yourself permission to enjoy the car and not worry about "the deal"

    There's my 2 cents. Hope that helps...
  • jonnhyujonnhyu Posts: 3
    Does anybody know the decent/best dealership for acura in San Diego/Temecula area and prices you quoted for TL TypeS and Base w/ navigation.
  • vbn526vbn526 Posts: 6
    San Diego/Temecula areas all quote around the price range of $32,000 for TL w/ navi. I don't know about the acura TL typeS. However, I was lucky enough to throw an offer at Acura of Escondido (internet sales dept.) for $30,848 for the TL w/ navi & it came out to be $33,595 OTD.
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