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2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

hbstigerhbstiger Posts: 1
edited January 30 in Acura
I will be signing on a 2000 3.2 TL with 45,000 miles, spoiler, all wood trim, nicely running car for $15,500 sale price. Is that a reasonable price.

I also plan to sell it in two years. How much depreciation will I incur on the car?
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  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    According to Edmunds.com's used car section, a 2000 Acura 3.2TL without Nav should be about $17k private party sale, $18.5k dealer retail and about $19.5k certified used. If edmunds is any indication, your price is very good. Of course, there are many other factors to look at. I don't believe the spoiler and wood add any real value to the car. Also, what does carfax say? Have you had a mechanic look at it? You might want to ask your questions on the Real World Trade-In Values thread. Terry probably knows what these are going for at auction, so a selling price is easier to determine that way.
  • kennyg8kennyg8 Posts: 225
    Did your dealer (Montclair) throw in the pro-pack, which I believe includes wheel locks, splash guards and trunk tray? Many dealers throw this in as a freebie, as I understand the cost to them is about $100 to $125.

    Congrats on your new ride, and it appears that you have gotten yourself a fair and reasonable deal.
  • a64marca64marc Posts: 21
    depends...here in Southern California we have a lot of competition...got a non-nav TL 12/03 for 31even and am aboutto get another one with current deal at 30,500...under invoice but don't forget dealer holdbacks and other incentives.
  • shoman93shoman93 Posts: 1
    $15.5k for that car is a hell of a deal. I myself was looking into a 2000 TL when my 2000 Civic EX coupe got stolen awhile back (unfortunately they found it and it wasn't totaled so it was repaired and returned to me). Anyhow, I have an uncle in the car business and he told me I was looking in the mid 16's for a good low milage one, maybe w/ a Nav. system. Because he's a dealer, he buys them for around that 15.5-16.5 mark depending on mileage and condition; even with my $100 over what he paid price still puts me around the 16k mark. Have the car checked out and make sure there's not some hidden reason for that great price. If the car is immaculate and in top shape, take it! I'm still debating on getting one myself.
  • I bought my '99 TL (red, base equipment only) almost 5 years ago, the weekend the '99 TL first was offered for sale. I bought it from Curry Acura in Scarsdale, NY. In the face of intro hype, I (reluctantly) paid list price, which at the time was about $28K, I think. Aside from that - the buying experience was exceptional... the car was immaculate, the paperwork was finished before I arrived, and the salesman even set up the Homelink for me! The car has been essentially trouble-free for the last 102,000 miles.
  • I just purchased a new 03 TLS in Overland Park, Ks. It is a Diamond White with the protection pkg. I paid $23,500 plus received the 2.9% financing. Two weeks later and 2,000miles, I really love this car; quite, smooth, power, solid, really neat car. No wind noise 135mph, just a solid ride. Thanks to everyone for the help. Stickyman
  • Stickyman,
    $23,500? for the TL-s type? Did I miss something? Can you give me the name of the Dealer? I would fly down there this week. The Dealers in Michigan are giving offers in the $29k range. Any help would be much appreciated. thanks
    cj
  • billyperksbillyperks Posts: 449
    Regarding the wind noise-
    I get a relatively amount of wind noise when I am 100 MPH, I think it is impossible not to hear any wind noise at your alleged 135mph.

    What is this Proctetion Plan you mentioned?

    I know you made a typo stating that you paid $23,500.00.
  • ash213ash213 Posts: 40
    I would also like to knoe where did you get TL-S for 23,500. I will go there. Thanks
  • djdezdjdez Posts: 75
    the INVOICE price on a TL-S is $29053 ... the BEST deal I've seen is $1000 UNDER invoice, which would make the car around $28000 ... so, that would mean they are eating the holdback, and essentially making NO $$$ on the car !! Are we to believe that YOUR dealer actually sold the car at a $4500 LOSS and even gave you the $500 or so protection package ??? I think not !! You're not telling us something here !

    And, WHERE were you able to drive 135 MPH ? Just curious ... lol
  • jratcliffejratcliffe Posts: 233
    "And, WHERE were you able to drive 135 MPH ? Just curious ... lol"

    Clearly, you've never spent time in the Boston area. ;)
  • Is $26500 a good price for 2003 TL??
  • DJDEZ,
    Can you tell give me the name of a dealership please. I'm in Michigan and the dealers here are still staying $500 over invoice. I'm willing to travel a bit, especially for $1000 UNDER. Thanks
    cj
  • dulnevdulnev Posts: 652
    Couldn't be true. The dealer holdback on Acura is either 2% or 3%. At $1,000 under invoice they'd be selling the car at a loss. Maybe it was $1,000 under invoice but + $500 in junk fees + another $500 in markup on accessories. This I would believe.
  • I apologize to everyone for my error. In my excitement of purchasing the 03 TLS, I typed in $23,500 and should have been $29,500.00. I apologize again for the error.
    In Iowa, between the burp of Hamburg and Rt 2, (I29)there is a great stretch to lay the ears back. The speedo read 135 before I backed off and the wind noise was really low. With the big dig in Boston, I can't see how anyone can get up to 60 much less 70 or 80. Once again my apologies to all but, I love this car....
  • Thank you all so much, your advice has been very helpful. I'm about to wrap up my deal on an 03 TLS. I'm getting conflicting stories from 2 dealers. (I'm sure this shocks everyone here) Anyway, can someone tell me what the real non-negotiable fees are? I'm sure some of you think you didn't pay acquisition fees, or documentation fees, but they were rolled in somewhere right? Or am I wrong? One dealer tells me acqu. fee is $550, the other says $525. One tells me security deposit rounded up to nearest $50 the other says nearest $25. One tells me documentation fee of $160 is "state law".
    They both tell me that their advertising fee is non-negotiable. This I really don't understand. Isn't advertising under "the cost of doing business catagory?" I advertise for my business too, but I don't tell my patients that I'm tacking on an extra $400 for my ad in last week's newspaper.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated. The only fee I trust so far is tax, and plates because I know sales tax must be paid. These others just seem like miscellaneous additions. When the dealer says they are non-negotiable, can I tell him that's not true? Are these fees the same nationwide? Can anything be waived? I mean truely waived not just dropping the price and adding them back under another catagory.
    Thanks board
    cj
  • victord1victord1 Posts: 94
    and my sister bought her TL-S w/nav for $31,000 which also includes rear spoiler, mud guards, and free oil changes for life. That was in March.
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    How does she like the car after 5 months? Has she had any problems? How about mpg? If she had to do it over again, would she buy the TL?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    cjfairman, check out the discussions on our Smart Shopper board for some thoughts.

    Lots of folks say just negotiate the OTD (out the door) price and don't worry about the fees.

    Good luck!
  • djdezdjdez Posts: 75
    Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. But, I still think you can get a BETTER deal than what you are being offered. Remember, even if dealers sell AT INVOICE, you are still giving the dealer around $900 in profit (based on the holdback).

    I can break down the lease fees for you, since we just completed a lease a few weeks ago.
    - The $550 bank fee is the STANDARD AHFC fee. The $525 must have been another bank, or someone was just lying to you. We had the bank fee rolled into the monthly payment - so it became part of the 'adjusted cap cost'.
    - The Security Deposit CAN vary, but ours was $350 - however, we chose the slightly higher money factor which WAIVED the Security Deposit .. standard money factor for this GREAT subsidized lease was .00092 - we used .00102 in order to waive the security deposit. This actually saved around $190, but of course, you DON'T get it back at the end of the lease -- whereas, you'd get the $350 back, hopefully!
    - Doc fees are BULL no matter what ... only a few states have the fee amount set as a 'LAW' -- perhaps yours is one of them .. but I've seen them vary from anywhere from $45 to over $200 !!! Ours was $135, I bitched about it, they agreed it's high, but EVERYONE pays it .. it's about $25 AT MAX, worth of paperwork !! I still don't know HOW they come to a figure for this.
    - Advertising fees are another LOAD OF CRAP ! YOU, the consumer should NOT have to pay for a dealership's advertising fees. We did NOT pay those fees! Your analogy holds true.

    The only thing we had to pay UP FRONT, was the First Month's payment, Tax, Title & License fees, and that ridiculous Doc fee .. for a total of around $650 due at signing -- a pretty good deal !

    Regarding the cars being $1000 UNDER invoice, you MAY only see that on the Type-S .. as there are MORE of these on lots than the standard TL (TL-P) ... But, we WERE able to get a deal of around $500 BELOW invoice on my a standard TL, and we thought that was a great deal !

    I'm sure by the end of this month, you will STILL see some TL-S's and maybe even a few standard TL's on dealer's lots ... If one has BEEN there for a while, they may be getting some kind of incentive to MOVE IT OFF THE LOT -- this is the car you'd want to make a deal on. But, getting the car at TRUE dealer cost should NOT be out of the question - especially with all the $$$ that's being made on TSX's and MDX's right now ! Don't budge off your offer, especially with the NEW TL's coming out real soon. Even AT Invoice, it's a GREAT car for the $$$ -- but you CAN get it BELOW if you try hard enough !

    If you want to travel a bit, Turnersville Auto Complex is the place to go - it's located in NJ .. check the website - www.turnersvilleautocomplex.com and ask for CAROLYN in the internet sales dept !!!

    I know Acura is still offering the 2.9% financing on this car, but I am NOT positive about the LEASE deal .. it's no longer on Acura's website as it expired on July 31st, yet people are saying that you can STILL do this lease deal, so maybe someone else (Car_Man) can let you know !!!

    Good luck !
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