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Honda Accord vs Acura TSX

nead_a_carnead_a_car Posts: 2
edited March 29 in Acura
Looking at both these cars.

2004 Acura TSX is $26,900 (pretty firm)
2003 Accord V6 EX Sedan Leather Auto is $23,600

why should i not go with the TSX (besides the xtra 3,300 bucks) or why should i go with the honda

thanks

(i currently have a civic)
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  • robertsmxrobertsmx Posts: 5,525
    Accord EXV6 would be better if you want a larger sedan with more power, touring suspension (softer than TSX's sport suspension) for less.

    TSX would be better if you want something smaller (about the same size as 94-97 Accord), sportier and don't mind the extra dollars.
  • tblazer503tblazer503 Posts: 620
    it is easy enough to get a more "sporty" suspension on the Accord(probably about 400 installed for some eibachs or other spring co.) so you are still ahead by ~3000. You can buy a 5/60k warranty for probably 800 and now you have a Honda product with more power, sporty suspension, better warranty, and basically same options for 2000 less. =o)
  • mikek37mikek37 Posts: 411
    I own the 03 EX V6. Great car, even better value.

    THe TSx, even though I have yet to see the car from a driving perspective, the exterior is very nice. I have to say its better looking then my accord. ( One plus is that you wont see as many TSx's as you will accords)

    The interior of the TSX is more refined then that of the accord. The one piece dash , the awesome instrument cluster, top notch stuff.

    If I had the extra money, I would definitely get the TSX, but then again you cant go wrong with either.

    The only thing that really irks me is the fact the TSX doesnt have a power driver seat. Kinda odd?
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    But unfortunately the passenger doesn't have one
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 30,545
    Currently, the residuals on 2004 TSX are 64% of sticker vs. 58% on the 2003 Accord. So, you have to factor in about $1500 resale advantage if you sell in about 3 years.

    kyfdx

    MODERATOR
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  • akal50akal50 Posts: 112
    A month ago I was deciding between the Accord EXV6 Sedan and the TSX Auto, both without Navi. To the Accord, I added the decklid spoiler and auto-dimming mirror and bargained down to $24,925. For the TSX, I added the wood trim and bargained down to $26,700. Both prices included destination and dealer fees. I went with the Accord despite the fact that I was getting a great deal on the TSX. I chose the Accord for the following reasons:

    - Lower price
    - More engine power
    - More space
    - More comfortale ride
    - Power passenger seat
    - Uses regular unleaded fuel
    - Cheaper insurance
    - Won't feel like a kid's car when I'm driving it my late 30s.

    There's no question that the TSX looks better and has a more refined interior than the Accord. And being assembled in Japan, the TSX is less likely to have rattles. The TSX also handles better. But several things turned me off. First, the price is just way too high. It's a great car that's loaded with features, but I expected a stronger engine. The car is heavy and once you add passengers, the engine struggles to get this car moving. Speaking of passengers, there's no power passenger seat and the back seat is cramped. Also, the ride is rather harsh which it's supposed to be in keeping with its sportier image. But for everyday driving, I'd hate it as I'm sure passengers would. Being an Acura, I also expected heated mirrors. Ultimately it came down to money. The Accord is a much better value. It feels like a luxo cruiser and really the only thing wrong with it is the way it looks, which is why I added the spoiler. That made a huge difference. With the TSX, not you do you have to pay more for the car, you also pay more for gas and insurance and you end with a small car that's underpowered and missing a couple features. And I'm sure the price will come down once the TL arrives. I personally would never pay more than a couple hundred over invoice. The dealer doesn't deserve that much profit.
  • cms5cms5 Posts: 6
    I drove both vehicles yesterday. I purchased an Accord ex v6 coupe. You cannot really compare these two automobiles. The Accord was much faster than the tsx and it also had a much better ride quality. The tsx handled better and had better brakes. I got my Accord for 300 below invoice. The acura dealer said they wouldn't vary much from sticker. I really enjoy the refinement of the new accord, but you aren't going to burn through the hairpins unless you go with the 6sp cpe.
  • wydriverwydriver Posts: 2
    I second everything aka150 posted. I just went through the same comparison...and ended up with the '03 v-6 sedan.

    I would say that a more fair comparison (size and power wise) would be between the Acura TL and the Accord v6 sedan. I agree that the TSX is nice, but the little 4 is no match for the 6 cylinder in terms of performance. Yes the TSX handles better (stiffer), while the Accord is a bit quieter and much softer.

    I guess it depends on what you want. Again I second aka150's comments. Choose the TSX if you want: Acura nameplate, Xenon headlights, manu-matic tranny, tighter handling, stiffer ride, smaller back seat, less power (4 vs. 6 cyl.), less common vehicle,

    or the Accord if you want: better value, more powerful engine, softer ride, more rear seat space, cheaper fuel/insurance.

    Some people just have to have the Acura because of its luxury name. For them price is not a problem and the TSX or TL is fine. If you want basically the same quality (less the xenons, "tiptronic" tranny, etc.) the Accord provides a much better value.
  • andrewdnaandrewdna Posts: 32
    was wondering what the price is. what did you play out the door?
  • cms5cms5 Posts: 6
    The total with tt&l in tx was $24,190 plus I got 2.9%apr. This car is much better than my 02 in almost every way.
  • mikek37mikek37 Posts: 411
    If that includes TTL then you got the deal of the century, are you sure that includes TTL?
  • cms5cms5 Posts: 6
    I Got it at actual dealer cost. TTl was only $850 due to my trade. I was pretty happy with the deal.
  • mikek37mikek37 Posts: 411
    Well you cant really say you got the car fora certain price by subtracting the trade in value. A better means of showing people how much you paid is by saying, I paid this much for the car , and I received this much off the purchase by trading in another vehicle.
  • cms5cms5 Posts: 6
    I got 18500 for my trade and I owed 18500 on my trade. In TX you get to subtract the value of your old vehicle off the price of the new one when you figure sales tax. I was just explaining why my ttl was so low.
  • amingaming Posts: 119
    Just to help you folks in deciding, here is what you could expect. Tested both cars (automatic) and got these times from a stop watch.

    0-100 Km/h

    Accord V6: 8.25 - 8.75 secs

    TSX: 12.5 - 13 secs.

    I did 3 trials for each.

    Fuel:

    Accord - regular

    TSX - Premium (dealer told me)

    Cheers...
  • mikek37mikek37 Posts: 411
    You are serious with the stop watch??

    How accurate can that be ?

    There is no way the TSX is that slow, 4 seconds slower then the accord, highly doubt it.
  • wgn4snowwgn4snow Posts: 17
    Perhaps the TSX time was 0-60 and back to a full stop..? :-)

    I drove the TSX this weekend, and though I did not time it with a stopwatch, it must be faster than 12+ seconds. My current 1.6EL (Canadian Acura 4-door Civic Si) is about 11 seconds for 0-60, and the TSX feels much faster than that (and this was with 4 passengers aboard).

    The "feel" of the V6 Accord (4-door) and the TSX are different. The Accord feels more effortless in straightline acceleration, whereas you can throw the TSX around more at speed without losing it. Mind you, the TSX will fly for you, but you are in the 5,000 rpm range, while I never got the Accord V6 over 4,000. The advantage to me for the TSX is that it is shorter. Narrow streets and a small garage are factors.

    In Canada, the TSX does have heated mirrors.
  • amingaming Posts: 119
    "You are serious with the stop watch??
    How accurate can that be ?
    There is no way the TSX is that slow, 4 seconds slower then the accord, highly doubt it."

    It's the same way I time every car I drive. It's not accurate to say .1 or .2 secs and I don't claim that it is. In my opinion, at least for myself, it is within .5-.75 secs accurate. If you use the same procedure it isn't hard to do. This is the same method I used since my 87' accord and it has been very reasonable.

    The TSX felt very decent in its acceleration but the times suprised me very much, just as it has you. It could have had some sort of defect or maybe they used regular fuel and it needs premium ...I don't know. I just thought that I would give my findings and let everyone decide on their own.
    I drove the cars (Accord & TSX) one after the other within 1hr. Conditions were the same.

    Maybe the manual is better?????

    cheers...
  • mikek37mikek37 Posts: 411
    Not sure about the times, but then again you never know. I can't really assume considering I never drove the car, I have only read reviews.

    Can't deny that the TSX is a nice car though. I love the instrument cluster, so classy.
  • amingaming Posts: 119
    Mike it definitely has a better interior AND Exterior then the Accord and for that reason I wanted to test drive it.

    It fell short in a few critical areas for me and therefore it's off the shopping cart.

    Areas it fell short (that I required):

    - Less interior space especially the rear.
    - Power - I've been waiting for honda to increase the horses in the accord and finally they met my expectations.
    - regular fuel vs premium fuel.
    - more trunk space.
    - mileage (very close but I believe the accord is rated better). More power and better mileage ... can't beat that combo.
    - The seat is perfect for me in the accord and a little snug in the TSX. Long drives could be an issue for me.

    cheers...
  • tlaurotlauro Posts: 504
    Bank Residuals for leases have nothing to do with actual market values for resale. I can pretty much assure you that the TSX won't be worth 64% of sticker in 3 years. That's an inflated lease rate to get the payment low. Bad move if you understand leasing.

    tim
    books don't buy cars...people do
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    The superior styling and quality of material of the TSX along with the power and room and comfort of the Accord V6.......in the '04 TL.

    I think I will line up for one with chequebook in hand. If Navi is also offered, I'll be laughing!
  • anybody agree tsx's tail light way too much like 97 version Camry, that bothers me, I think Accord isn't that bad looking =)
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    There is some resemblance, but overall it's fairly attractive. Actually, IMO, even better than the tail lights on the new TL.
  • HELP ME...I know you all have been over this before in previous talks........but I need more than that....I'm still not sure what to do.

    I'm 23, engaged, not looking for the most speed, just an upgrade from my pathetic 89 camry 4 banger.

    I can afford about 30 or so, without saying why for any of the following, i simply stated want, luxury feel, good pick up, front wheel drive, very low maintaince 4 door sedan.

    Honda/Acura seem to have what I'm looking for, I just can't make up my mind on which....the 03 Accord Sedan, V6 EX w or w/o Navi...the 04 TL or TSX...of even a used 01, 02 TL or the new 03 TL before the new one comes out.....

    Such dilemmas.......ideas appreciated immensly. I obviously can't make up my own mind, so someone help me make it for me! haha
  • If you don't care primarily about acceleration, you should be comparing the Accura to a 4cyl EX-L and save yourself another $2k. Or get the navi instead of the V6. The 4 cyl Accord has good acceleration (not great) but will certainly be a step up from an '89 Camry.

    Don't forget to factor in the higher fuel costs for premium gas, plus the 4 cyl Accord will get much better mileage than the Accura. Figure $200 extra/yr for gas for 15k miles/year.
  • The only reason I'd get a 4 banger is because that's all that's offered in the TSX. I would like a V6 but, I'm leaning toward the TSX.

    I'm kind of comparing apples and oranges I know, but I don't want a V4 accord, if I do, I'll just get the TSX.

    Pricing wise, from original MSRP. The fully loaded top of the line EX Accord w/Navi is very comparable to the TSX w/Navi.

    I guess I should be comparing the EX Accord w/Navi to the TL w/Navi....haha...but that would make too much sense!
  • ken972ken972 Posts: 162
    "I can afford about 30 or so, without saying why for any of the following, i simply stated want, luxury feel, good pick up, front wheel drive, very low maintaince 4 door sedan"

    You just described a EX V6 Honda Accord!
  • I know you are rite Ken, BUT, since I'm used to an 89 camry, I also described the TSX AND the NEW and/even OLD TL.

    Again, when I say 30 or so, I guess I really mean 25 to 35.

    So it's a toss up. I'm more on the side of the Accord and the TSX...not so much the TL...if the TL it would have to be the new one I think....the old (03) and before are (as someone else told me) on an old platform and isn't such a good car anymore.
  • xplorx4xplorx4 Posts: 621
    You want something to replace your Camry. Why not a new Camry or, since your price range is so wide, a new (or pre-owned) Lexus?

    Do you have a different perception of the reliability and luxury of a Toyota/Lexus vs. Honda/Acura? Was your Camry unreliable?

    Just curious why you're not staying "brand-loyal"...
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