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Infiniti QX56

On the Infiniti website, they are showing a little sneak peak on their upcoming SUV:

http://www.infiniti.com/form/global/FlashHandraiser/1,,,00.html

IMO, the interior better be pretty good because it looks just like the Pathfinder Armada
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  • wsag26wsag26 Posts: 124
    The Qx56 from Infiniti won't really prove a lot especially since Nissan is getting so close to Infiniti, there isn't any need for this luxury brand. I knew Nissan for quality, not for creating great luxury vehicles. Wasn't that what Infiniti was for??

    Anyway, I went to infiniti.com to look at the preview of the QX56. I saw the not hard to see pictures they gave us and it looks just like the Pathfinder Armada. I would have no interest buying a Nissan truck or SUV, especially since seeing the pictures direct from the New York International Auto Show. The headlights seemed boring and I don't think nobody was anxious for it, only asking questions to a lady who didn't know anything.

    How will it strike it's competitors? Edmunds.com says it will compete with big shots like the Cadillac Escalade&Lincoln Navigator which are the top luxury SUV's in it's position. Think I'm wrong? Look at 50 Cent's music videos (the rapper) and you'll see Hummer's or Cadillac's in the video. That is the only reason Cadillac has been trying to change it's old people image into the great Cadillac luxury brand, which I always supposed it was.

    Critics will 'wow' it for the first few months and get tired of the vehicle and start talking about how close it is to it's brother/sister, the Pathfinder Armada from Nissan. Hope Nissan didn't get into copying vehicles, just like how there doing it right now with the G35 Sedan/Maxima and G35 Coupe/350Z Coupe.
  • Wrong their, sorry. First off, isn't an Escalade a dressed up Suburban? Isn't the Navigator a dressed up Expedition? And 2nd, G35 and Maxima are totally different, the Max is way bigger and is FWD, the G35 is smaller and RWD. Z is a sports car, the G35 is a 2+2 sports coupe, all of those cars are totally different from each other, and if you want to talk about copying vehicles, just look at Ford and GM, Nissan doesn't do ANY copying of vehicles anymore.
  • carpeople is right, nissan has pulled itself away from simply rebadging its cars as infiniti's. carlos ghosn has indicated that from here on out, infiniti's new models will all be rear wheel or AWD. that doesnt promote a lot of platform sharing when nissan makes more FWD cars now does it? plus, other car companies are rebadging vehicles left and right...why doesnt anyone say anything about that?

    gosh, if only EVERYONE bought a car based on its headlights...

    instead of bashing a car or a company you dont seem to know much about, why dont you do some research and actually test drive and SEE the car before passing some judgements. i may be a nissan fan, but i dont go around bashing other vehicles just because i like nissan. if you dont like the car, thats your opinion, and thats fine...but be careful when spewing "facts"...make sure they are REAL and not something you THINK is real (see the G35/Maxima comment)

    happy motoring :-)

    -thene
  • Could not have said that better myself!
  • thanks!

    i just get irked when people get all finicky because nissan is owned by renault and (dum dum dummmm!!!) they are french!

    keep your political views out of the way, and test drive the car before you decide to trash it. its only fair!

    the other thing that irks me is that nissan gets all kinds of crap for "rebadging" vehicles, when every other company does it too! and they also get knocked for the "boyish" tail lights on the altima...

    hello? lets look at the RX300 and RX330! especially the 330, whats with the completely clear lights? those went out fast in the mid 90's

    anyways, i dont want to get off topic here...sorry it turned into a rant of sorts (not angry of course!)

    i really liked the new nissan armada, and i am interested in seeing what stylistic and functional changes they make for the QX56!

    happy motoring

    -thene
  • I think...even though Im an Infiniti guy that they could of done a better job designing it.. It looks to much like the Armada and the Honda Pilot wich is a bit bland. The front donsent look to bad considering the back. They will make some changes to it just like they did in the FX but still...Common It's an Infiniti!!!
  • check out this link for a sneak peek at the QX56 (if that is what infiniti is even calling it...) and some info.

    -thene
  • arhfx45arhfx45 Posts: 27
    With the headlight design, boxed off rear & overall shape it looks like a Volvo wagon. The flowing curve at the top of the rear doors looks nice, but seems completely disconnected from the straight roofline. I also would prefer to seem a common theme with the door handles, both on the door, or both on the window frame. Overall it is a nice concept but a little disappointing from the group that designed the FX.
  • wsag26wsag26 Posts: 124
    MotorTrend Magazine reported that the 2004 Maxima was to close to the Infiniti G35. The Navigator and Escalade aren't 'dressed up' like you like to call it. There on the same platform. There is no way an Escalade can take of it's clothes and look like a Suburban. They use the same frame, but look nothing alike. Now... isn't that the TRUTH.

    Nissan's Maxima I believe is too close to the g35. I don't know about you, but Infiniti/Nissan sucks, except for there Maxima and Z and G35. Nissan is turning into the GM of all Japanese vehicles. VW is doing it. BMW is doing it. They all have a lot of money, and still there doing it.

    It isn't my fault. I love Cadillac's new vehicles and even if there on a platform, they look nothing once so ever like there cousins. But Nissan and the G35 look farmiliar. There too close in relationship and I hate that. I don't agree with some of GM's vehicles like the

    2004 Canyon/Colorado
    2002 Sunfire/Cavalier

    They look too much the same. You can say they don't, but I think they do. You may think there wrong, but it is my opinion.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    the funny thing is that the maxima is NOTHING like the G35. it WAS on the I35 platform, but not anymore. the G35 is infiniti's version of the altima, not the maxima.
  • Bowke: What?
    WSAG: WHAT?

    OK, first of all, if the G is like anything, than its like the G. It is REAR WHEEL DRIVE. Caddy Escalade shares everything with the Subruban except engine and wood on the inside. They share more than the platform, my friend.

    The '04 Maxima is FWD and the G is RWD. They have nothing in common but the engine, which share different outputs. The Max looks nothing like the G. I would like any proof of info where a real car site said a Max was like the G. The Max is the family sports car. The G is the Sports Sedan.

    "Nissan is turning into the GM of all Japanese vehicles."

    That kinda doesn't go with what you said in your first paragraph, dont you think?

    The G35 looks NOTHING like any car on the road, espescially Nissans. If I knew how to get pics up on the message board I would show you(any help?).

    How about this. Every GMC vehicle is a copycat of a Chevy. The H3 is based on the trailblazer. The Vue shares alot of its parts with the new Equinox, not just the platform. Just because they dont have the same headlights and taillights doesn't mean they aren't the same, they only trick the untrained eye ;).

    "You may think there wrong", they are. An Escalade IS a dressed up Suburban. And Escalade EXT IS a dressed up Avalanche. A Navigator IS a dressed up Expedition. An Aviator is pretty much dressed up Explorer, but does some things to differentiate itself, not like teh Mountaineer.
  • Found out how to do images.....

    Now I can post pics :).

    Navi and Expedition:
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    The Escalade int. vs. Yukon interior.

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  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,641
    It may be true that the Nissan took the Maxima to upscale and I agree the styling hasn't completely won me over. I guarantee that a Escalade has more parts in common with a tahoe/suburban than the maxima has with a G35. The Max is fwd & the g35 is rwd, about the only thing they share is the 3.5 v6 that is specifically tuned for each application (I'm sure they share some switch gear etc). And they look absolutely nothing a like. Since I do have a subscription to MotorTrend I believe what they were referring to is the Maxima is to close to the G35's target market and Nissan/Infinity may have some cannibalization of sales between the two.

    Go look at the specs between the max & g35 vs Escalade & tahoe and you tell me which is more alike.

    Here are the specs:

    WB g35 112.2 / Max 111.2
    width g35 69 / max 71.7
    Length g35 186.5 / max 193.5

    wb Escal 116 / Tahoe 116
    width Escal 78.9 / Tahoe 78.9
    Length Escal 198.9 / Tahoe 196.9

    The extra 2" in lenght is probably from the giant sized Cadilac emblem.

    I won't even go into interior dimensions the tahoe and escalade are identical except for cargo capacity. The g35 and Max do not have any interior dimensions that are the same.

    I think your paying to much attention to GM's marketing department that wants you to believe they are different when actuality a Escalade is a Tahoe with a few different parts and more content.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,641
    carpeople,

    your pics prove my point nicely...
  • wsag26wsag26 Posts: 124
    First #1
     I have my opinions and I will keep them. Nobody is going to change my mind. I don't like how they do platforms. The Escalade doesn't look at all like the Suburban to me, at least. if you think it does, maybe it does to you. Nobody is going to change my mind.

    Second #2
    What does it matter if it has RWD and the Maxima has FWD????? Obviously one has RWD and the other one has FWD... but they can still be on the same platform. I will agree that the Escalade shares the same dashboard as the Suburban but no way agree that there styling is the same.

    Final and Last #3
    I will not bring this topic back up.... especially because this specific board is about the 2004 qx56.. not arguing about the resemblence of the G35/Maxima. I had my point and I will not change it....
  • wsag26wsag26 Posts: 124
    Can the Japanese convince the rap stars that there brand new full size luxury SUV's are that popular enough to be featured in the music industry's videos? That is how the Escalade started out getting people to buy them. There sales are okay at this time. Finally, a way to get many elderly out of there crowd.

    What are your opinions? Please don't fight with me...
  • "What does it matter if it has RWD and the Maxima has FWD????? Obviously one has RWD and the other one has FWD... but they can still be on the same platform"

    But the FACT is that they don't share platfroms, G35 is on the FM RWD platform, the Maxima is on the FF-L platform.
    Since you had the last post about their resemblence and completely ignored the pics I posted up of the Expedition/Navi, Yukon/Escalade, I will post pics of Maxima and G35.

    Max:
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    G35 sedan:
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    Now, to keep on topic, Yukon vs Escalade

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  • you can have your opinion, but you have to realize that WE wont agree with you based on the FACTS, which have been stated nicely above by various other posters.

    opinions are just that, opinions. you may say the g35 and the max are almost alike, (based on maybe the headlights? i dont see anything else remotely in common) but the FACTS prove you wrong. you have the option of keeping your opinion as is (which then makes you ignorant to the truth) or you may change it based on the facts presented to you. it doesnt make you less of a person to change your opinion, ive done it many times.

    so while we have presented evidence proving that the max and the g35 are not identical, you have yet to prove your opinion on the escalade not being the same as any other GM product like the tahoe or the yukon. you just state your opinion that they look different.

    well, its hard to take someone seriously when they cant provide some truth behind their argument.

    its also funny that you call nissan/infiniti the GM of all japanese vehicles, yet you have this passion for cadillac. if nissan/infinit sucks, and therefore are the GM of japanese vehicles, wouldnt it hold true then that you think actual GM vehicles suck? therefore making your beloved escalade suck?

    large suv's are not only about rap stars, families dont DRIVE them only because they see 50 cent driving one in his videos...

    i think the qx56 will bring a rugged suv with luxurious interior to the market along with japanese quality that the american carmakers dont seem to have a grasp on yet. this is MY opinion.

    happy motoring!

    -thene
  • A sketch of what the new QX56 might look like from Freshalloy.com:
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    Some spy pics of QX56 from thecarconnection.com:
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  • wsag26wsag26 Posts: 124
    I told you, you think that. The Maxima/G35 may NOT be on the same platform, but they can use the same styling.
    I am not dumb. I did not ignore your pictures. You proved the dashboards of the Yukon/Escalade were the same. I understand that. but the styling does look that alike. I have looked at the facts. You say the Gm Marketing Development crew is tricking me. Well, look at that. Renault/Nissan is obviosuly tricking you. They use the same STYLING. They don't have to be on the same platform.
    Anyway, the picture of the Qx56 spy pictures that carpeople showed me shows a Pathfinder Armada, just with different headlights. The taillights are the same and so is the body of the vehicle, the roof.
    I do not want to fight with you, so you can feel that you can think that way, but I have my own opinions. Please stop quoting me. i don't want to fight with you, i was just bringing up my points for you to see some kind of resemblence. I saw the resemblence with the Yukon/Escalade and I admited it. If you don't have anything good to say at all to me... don't say anything at all... We can move on and talk about the Qx56.. now.
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