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2013 and earlier-Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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edited January 28 in Subaru
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  • ballisticballistic Posts: 1,687
    On June 23, I paid $100 above the $23,323 invoice price for my XT, plus $177 and $145 for the two Popular Equipment Groups I wanted, $33 for rubber mats, and $200 for the column-mount boost gauge (all at dealer port-installed invoice cost) - and I specifically did not buy the expensive, pointless rear spoiler. My total price out the door was $23,978.
  • erictooleyerictooley Posts: 13
    Purchased 7-21-03
    Options: automatic, Package 1 (bumper cover, cargo tray, splash guards), auto-dimming mirror, armrest extension
    MSRP: $25,010
    Invoice: $22,604
    TMV: $22,279
    We Paid: $21,879
    Financing: 2.9%/60 months (Subaru financing)

    Purchased from Stevens Creek Subaru in San Jose, CA. We were quoted this price by their Internet sales rep. Originally had planned to trade in our Civic, but since the dealer didn't offer what we felt the car was worth ($11,000 offered, we were looking for $12k), we listed it on craigslist and sold for $12,300 in less than a day. The final transaction was relatively straightforward.
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Posts: 1,760
    Java Black Pearl
    options: Popular Equipment Group 1D (Java Black-colored rear bumper cover, cargo tray and splash guards), armrest extension
    MSRP: $28,492
    Invoice: $25,873
    TMV: $26,881
    Paid: $26,127

    Purchased from Liberty Subaru, Oradell NJ. We were quoted this price by the internet sales rep. No hassle, sales rep very knowledgeable and nice. Finance guy did not hassle. Pleasant.
  • joybelljoybell Posts: 275
    next time I'll buy online. It's easier to shop for a deal that way. Besides, what do the dealers really do for you? I spent a long time trying to get two glue spots removed from the windshield of my brand new Forester. I had to be carefull not to scratch the glass (being worried about "soft glass" windshields). So much for dealer prep. The Impreza in the dealer's showroom had a crooked "R" in "SUBARU", and when I helpfully pointed this out, I was told that this would be remedied when the car was prepped for the buyer...not caring a hoot about the impression it makes on a showroom visitor. Nope...no more dealers for me.
  • subkidsubkid Posts: 94
    joybell,
    exactly my experience. I did it through the internet/phone. Turned out to be one of the most pleasant experiences ever (the only comparable is when my wife and I planned and organized our wedding all alone).

    Once I have some time I'll explain it in detail (Forester buying, not the wedding :)), but suffice it to say that I visited the dealership only once - to pick up the vehicle, registration plate was already on, all papers in order - took 15 minutes all together to be on our way home. And above all - $600 (Canadian) over invoice.

    K
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Posts: 1,760
    have done all of my internet buying the last 2 cars. only way to go. i didnt even visit my first one, had it shipped to nj from ohio. i only saw their driver. last time at liberty subaru, all was ready to go by the time i got there. internet buying rules...
  • joybelljoybell Posts: 275
    do you really, really have to have it serviced at the dealer? Seriously thinking of not going to a dealer at all but to Canadian Tire, except if there is a warranty repair to do. I have a lot more confidence in them since they are honest, cheaper, concientious and have serviced my Subies after warranty for many years.
  • subkidsubkid Posts: 94
    joybell,

    you are touching a very sore spot for me. I'm still trying to decide on that one. Additionally, I have to deal with the fact that I bought "out of town", so none of local dealerships is my home. (I even had a sales person threatened me that if I bought out of town, I'd have to go there for service - which I understand is illegal threat to make - didn't feel like pursuing it further, other than making a mental note never to deal with that dealership again).

    Back to your question - I called a dealership service to ask for an oil change price - $72 (and they do some "other important stuff", but that doesn't include tire rotation. I find it a little bit steep. However, I wouldn't put Canadian Tire that high on my list either - their service leaves a lot to be desired. I particulary dislike their sales tactics - you leave a car for brake job, and instead of having it done in two hours, they call you at work to tell that fuel injectors need cleaning, and intake needs flushing - only $100 bucks more :). My natural reaction is "what the h... did you do in my engine if I told you to change my brake pads @#$%!!!" :)) So, do you want some underpaid, non interested kid messing with you new Subaru engine - which is probably the first and the only one he will ever see in his life?

    So for me, the jury is still out on that one. I'd prefer some local garage that doesn't have high turnover of staff and has some exposure to Subaru. I decided to approach every Subaru owner that I meet at gas station, parking lot, car wash bay ... and ask where they service their car (hope not to start getting stalking charges and restraining orders).

    I'll take this chance to invite Canadians to comment on shops that can commonly be found up north. So, who do you trust?

    K
  • joybelljoybell Posts: 275
    Maybe this topic should go to the Canadian Subaru owner's board. I guess I've had good luck with Canadian Tire (and they are sueable), but I also know of a good Subaru mechanic that is now working at a Mazda dealership (since the Subaru dealership he worked for closed), but there you have dealer prices again....and, after all, he's working for "the competition" now.
  • Read this before you decide to go with the chain stores up here:
    http://www.apa.ca/template.asp?SectionID=3&ArticleID=12

    Subkid, I'm eagering awaited your tale of purchase. I know I will be following closely in your footsteps, and anything you can share will be most appreciated - heck, I might even spring for a round of golf out at Kananaskis!
  • subkidsubkid Posts: 94
    I'm in the time squeeze right now, will post later. You are in the right town to purchase - I'll let you know dealer/sales person name.

    Too bad I don't care for golf, but would certainly appreciate capable hiking companion to Kananaskis - Mt. Indefatigable, just in case that grizzly lady is still wandering around with her cubs - gave me big chills last year.

    K
  • Isn't hiking just golf without the swearing or the little white ball?
  • mikef11mikef11 Posts: 74
    Subkid,

      Mark me down as another person intrigued with how you purchased over the internet. I find that there isn't much Cdn pricing info that I can find on the internet.

      I'm in Ottawa and don't travel to your area often, but can always get you a beer if you get out this way :-) If I do head West, I'll bring my hiking boots!

    MikeF
  • kullenbergkullenberg Posts: 283
    Someone, I forget who, once said: "golf is a nice walk - ruined"!
  • By famed Canadian author Shania Twain! Or was that Mark Twain...
  • subkidsubkid Posts: 94
    no problem for beer, as they say here on the wild west - it's always good to know somebody in Ottawa.

    K
  • stoner420stoner420 Posts: 165
    Just purchased a Cayenne Red XT with AT, no options, at Crabtree Subaru in Shelton, CT. Great experience, no pressure, they let my wife drive the XS vs XT, and let me drive the XT too without complaining. Even the finance manager was not a major pain in the behind, he was pretty laid back and barely even tried to sell us on the extended warranty. (Too bad we got the guy though, the other finance manager was a really cute blonde lady! Well maybe it's good after all that we got this guy instead.. ;-) We went in on Sunday, they did not have the car in stock, but located one at a dealer about 35 miles away, and so we picked it up Monday evening with 58 miles on the odo.

    We traded in an 01 Accord EX with low mileage; when the time came to deal, the salesguy just asked us how much we would be willing to pay bottom line... I gave a number based on edmunds invoice/tmv for the XT and kbb for the Honda, and they accepted right away (guess I should have tried for a few hundred lower, doh!) Anyhow, it works out in the end that I got a value pretty much right inline with the kbb value for the Honda and the edmunds tmv on the XT. Maybe we could have done slightly better, but we didn't even really shop around or try to haggle, it was just wham, bam, done. I've already used this dealership's service dept. for my WRX a few times, and they've been pretty good, so I was somewhat inclined toward buying from them anyhow. The pure convenience factor of the whole thing probably offsets any small amount I might have done better searching around. I financed 2.9% for 3 years, this included $3000 remaining to pay off on the Honda.

    Only downside was that they only filled the gas just less than halfway. (Also the windshield wiper fluid was almost empty, but they refilled it for me.)

    Anyhow, the car RULES!!! THE ENGINE IS AWESOME!!! We love it!
  • mfletouvamfletouva Posts: 166
    Cayenne Red

    MSRP: $22245
    Invoice: $20365
    TMV: $21100
    PAID: $19500
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Dang, they gave it to you. Congrats.

    -juice
  • mfletouvamfletouva Posts: 166
    I thought it was a really good deal, although it sounds it wouldn't have been in Oregon (I have my doubts...) :)
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Sheesh! $865 below invoice already on an 04! Do you think the fact that the big 3 are practically giving their cars away is forcing the whole market lower?

    -Frank P.
  • pleiad7pleiad7 Posts: 59
    Wow, $865 below invoice is one heck of a deal! It astounds me that it is possible to get a price like that on a '04 X while the market for the XT remains completely unaffected by the current lowballing (at least in the SF Bay Area).

    I now have my own little conspiracy theory that Subaru is trying to actually create an artificial shortage of XT's to force prices higher. How is it possible that there is not a single silver XT w/ premium package available in all of Northern California?? Is anyone else experiencing this problem in other parts of the country?

    I've been trying to get my hands on an XT premium for over two months and there are simply none available; if a dealership is lucky enough to get one, they're usually already sold or are marked up well above MSRP... very frustrating!
  • mfletouvamfletouva Posts: 166
    Whats the MSRP on that? The dealer that I just bought the X from has a Silver '04 XT with a $26320 MSRP...It doesn't say what options are on that. Of course, the dealer is in Rhode Island anyway so that isn't going to help you.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yes, I think consumers are addicted to incentives.

    Subaru has kept them under control, only the Baja offers a truly huge one ($2000).

    -juice
  • pleiad7pleiad7 Posts: 59
    It's mostly the XT's with Premium Package that are so few and far between here; in combination with the platinum silver color - which is my color of choice - they are almost impossible to find! If they're not already sold by the time they roll off the truck at the dealership, they get marked up as much as $2500 over MSRP.

    Of course it doesn't help the situation that I'm trying to purchase one through Subaru's VIP program at invoice price... kind of ironic, because to a car dealer, the real VIPs are the people who walk onto their lot with no clue and willing to pay inflated prices!

    Just curious whether this is a California problem or if this is happening elsewhere. I heard that overall XT sales are rather slow.
  • cmunizcmuniz Posts: 604
    Just bought a red XT with AT and a couple of other things, but no premium package or leather for about $1,600 below MSRP in North Carolina. According to SOA there are about 28 XTs of various sorts at NC dealers. It was a very good buyig experience.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Cool, congrats. That's a pretty deep discount for a hot new model.

    -juice
  • My wife called an audible today after spending the day driving my 96 Sentra yesterday... I have permission to shop NOW for a new vehicle. I am leaning towards the Forester XS Premium, but would like to hear about Canadian info on purchasing, especially on the 2003 models that are probably few and far between... AND... subkid's experience with using e-mail and buying in a different city after shopping around.

    PS I think the Subaru Canada website might be the most lame medium-sized-global-corporation-that-benefits-from-user-input website that I have ever seen.
  • subkidsubkid Posts: 94
    starting from the back.

    I agree with the website remark. Actually I couldn't agree more. But if you checked, it changed yesterday, you'd see that new info is there, and according to it, there's no financing available from Subaru right now. You should only hope their info is wrong this time around.

    I don't think you have time to do all I did with my purchase, so I'd suggest a quick fix. Call Subaru of Calgary (they also sell Jaguar) and see what they can do for you with regards to 2003 models. If nothing, than I'd suggest wait a little until situation improves.

    And one more thing - don't buy stocks these days - your timing is awful :)

    K
  • They have been, by far, the best dealership I have found in the province, and the salesguy there has been very patient with me. No way to get through to them until Tuesday, though, and the website, as you said, shows zero financing. Not zero percent. No financing at all! Man, I would trade all the XT MT moonroofs in Canada for a website like the SoA has!

    Carcostcanada.com butchered my attempt to get invoice pricing on the XS Premium, and I have nothing to show for 45 minutes worth of trying. I hope I can get something before I go in on Tuesday to be a bit informed on what I should be asking. I have a semi-recent MSRP + delivery package of $CAN 37,7454 for the tricked out XS Premium. I would guess the invoice + delivery package to be in the CAN$ 35,500 range, lower with incentives for the 2003.
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