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2013 and earlier-Subaru Forester Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    Hey, I've got a '91 Legacy with over 200,000 miles, too! :) Nearly 240,000 now. We're also on our second Subaru (an '04 Outback). The '91 really sold us on the brand's durability/reliability. I'll be sad to see it go, but we're on schedule to replace it in 3 or 4 years. I'd like to reach 300k, but don't think I'll get there. Maybe the next owner will. :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Hey, pretty soon you'll both join the 1/4 million mile club.

    -juice
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    I hit 222,222 at night out in the middle of nowhere on a roadtrip with a buddy. Got out of the car, put my face on the windshield, looking into the car, just above the gauge cluster, and had him take a goofy pic from the inside showing the mileage on the odometer and my face. :D At some point, I'll send that in to Subaru High Mileage Club
  • I picked one up with the Premium pack on March 31, think my "out the door" was 22.7K, seemed like a great deal. Funny thing, they tried to switch me to an Outback with a sticker that was nearly 2K higher than the Forester, for a LOWER price. Apparently that quota stuff is real, one more Outback for the month (or quarter?) and their holdback/bonus would have been bumped up on all their sales.

    I love this car, wife does too but she's scared to drive it until I get the first scratch. :) Only regret is not looking at leather seats, the tan is pretty light. I normally go for the econ/value model, but I'm enjoying the sunroof and heated seats. Never had so little buyers remorse on any vehicle.

    Thanks to this board for help/info on holdbacks, delivery, etc. Had a very nice experience with the internet dealer in Staunton, VA.

    Anybody have advice, recs, for various roof carriers to go on the Forester? I'll need a 4 pair ski rack and canoe / kayak racks. Don't think I'll go the 2X4 "custom" route like on my 91 Loyale :D
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Congratulations on a great deal! However for any number of reasons, "most" buyers won't be able to get that good of a deal.

    -Frank
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Between what I could get for their Forester, and what they were willing to give me for my Jeep, we were about $1000 apart from getting me the monthly payment I said I would pay.

    Uh oh... I see two problems right there. Car buying 101: You should always negotiate and finalize the purchase price of the new vehicle before beginning negotiations on the sale price of any trade-in. Secondly, you should never reveal to the dealer what you want your monthly payment to be. Doing either puts you at a strategic disadvantage in your negotiations with the dealer and doing both certainly compounds the problem :(

    If you’re positive that your Jeep is worth more than the Subaru dealer is offering and you don’t want to sell it yourself… take it to someplace like Carmax that specializes in good condition late model vehicles. They may very well make you a better offer. Also, since a Jeep dealer is most familiar with the used Jeep market, you should consider asking their used sales manager what he’d be willing to buy it for.

    -Frank
  • mknappmknapp Posts: 13
    That deal almost seems too good to be true.......how'd you do it? :blush: Any tips for my upcoming negotiations on a Forester?????

    Thanks,
    Melinda
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Bummer, still $2000 for the base X and $1000 for other models. I was hoping they'd put the $2000 on the X Limited. :(

    -juice
  • dirtbagdirtbag Posts: 57
    Apparently the X Premium is selling much better then the base model, thus the smaller incentive. IMHO, there are too many extras on the Premium to pass up, even if it means a $3000 difference.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's a huge jump, about $3800. I've seen X autos for $19k but an X Premium is $22.8k. Yowsah.

    I want a moonroof and heated seats, sure, but $3800? For that much more I want NAV as well.

    -juice
  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,385
    I dealt with the internet mgr at a big dealership. The price was settled via email and phone before I ever got there, and it was the last day of the month. There were a lot of X models in inventory (and there still must be, since the rebate is still around) and they had 2 identically spec'd models, right down to options, trannys and colors. They were willing to cut one loose under invoice if I bought that day. We got to 600 under invoice, then the $2k rebate was applied to get that 18.5 number. Mine is a stick, an auto would have been $19.1. I knew what color and trans I wanted, and had been tracking inventories at multiple dealers online. I checked their inventory and saw that they had more than one, which I figured gave me some more leverage. So I called this dealer first.

    I too also started with the X vs. X premium debate like others here, but the difference was knocking on 4k. The option I wanted was the sunroof. So no $4k sunroof for me, no matter how big ;)

    15 Leaf / 08 RDX

  • growler5growler5 Posts: 67
    Good strategy and deal, there - and you can always look around for an aftermarket sunroof :shades: . I can't imagine that costing you 4k. If I'm not mistaken, it would be more of a pop-up version rather than a slider. I've had both, and I think the pop-up is better since you can leave it open in a light-to-middling rainstorm when driving at speed.

    ateixeira - didn't you or someone quote some numbers for aftermarket sunroof not too long ago?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I have a manual pop-up, installed by Adler & Mandell in Rockville, MD. Back in '99 it cost me $300, plus $70 to cut some roof rails short and reinstall them.

    My wife put a power tilt/slide roof in her Legacy, that was around $900 IIRC.

    No regrets. Both are made by ASC. ASC's web site will refer you to local installers if you check.

    -juice
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    I got an aftermarket power tilt/slider sunroof installed in my Forester for about $900. Unfortunately, you can't get an aftermarket one that's even close to as big as the huge OE one that the Forester gets. :(

    -Frank
  • russkahnrusskahn Posts: 4
    I've had some dealers tell me July or August, but some online discussions say May. Well, it's May now. If the 07 is coming out in the next 3-4 weeks, I'd prefer to wait.

    If only because I really want a car with an iPod/MP3 player jack, and I'm hoping the 07 will have that.

    Then again, I've got to imagine the 07 models will be more expensive; the dealers are all probably trying to unload the 06 models. I've got quotes under invoice and without the destination fee.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Let's see what else they add. Sirius radio is supposed to be an option, too.

    I'm hoping for VTD and SportShift but I won't hold my breath.

    -juice
  • au1994au1994 Posts: 790
    I've received quotes for under invoice as well. Guess it depends on if you are in a hot market for Subies, I'm not so I've been given some attractive numbers. Some of the inventory I've been shopping has been on the dealer lot since at least Feb. when I started looking.

    Unfortunately, the trade in on my 4Runner has dropped 2-3k(depending on who's numbers you believe) since I began my search so, instead of being even or a little ahead on my trade, I'm back in the hole. I refuse to roll negative equity so I'll just keep the 4Runner for now and continue to pay it down. My Subie dreams will have to go on hold for now! :cry:

    2013 335i Sport Line Alpine White over Coral Red w/Black Trim

    2005 330cic ZHP Monaco Blue over Natural Brown w/Black Trim

  • jtm4jtm4 Posts: 60
    I e-mailed Subaru concerning the iPod/MP3 aux input in the 2007 Forester. Their response was that only the X Premium with the 6 disc changer would have the iPod/MP3 aux input.

    Jim
  • slazengerslazenger Posts: 99
    That is really lame and stupid. Do you know if 6CD changer will be available as an option on X?
  • driver56driver56 Posts: 408
    I was told just last week by our local Subie dealer that the 07's will arrive by late June. I'm on the South West coast of Canada. I will be in the market to purchase a new vehicle by Summer 07, and the Forester is a main contender.
  • jtm4jtm4 Posts: 60
    I don't know if the 6 CD changer will be an option on the 2007 X. We love our '98 Forester L but little things like not offering the sunroof as a separate option and not getting a simple aux/mp3 input on the X really get under our skin. We don't need anymore than the X offers so a 3,000 upgrade for a sunroof and/or aux input is not an option.
  • slazengerslazenger Posts: 99
    6CD changer is a $492 option on 2006. So I assume they will continue that. You may be able to get an aftermarket sunroof for $700-800.

    BTW, how many miles do you have on your '98 Forester?
  • jtm4jtm4 Posts: 60
    106k on our '98 Forester. We've been quoted 900.00 for an aftermarket sunroof with a lifetime warranty. Actually, the aftermarket sunroof has a few features lacking in the Subaru sunroof. We've just been reluctant to buy a new Forester and then have someone, other than Subaru, cut a hole in the roof.
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    We've just been reluctant to buy a new Forester and then have someone, other than Subaru, cut a hole in the roof.

    Perfectly understand your reluctance but there are plenty of reputable installers who have cut holes in roofs of vehicles far more expensive than the Forester ;)

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I have one in my Forester, and my wife has one in her Legacy.

    To be honest, it's the other way around, hers has features missing on the OE system.

    First off, I can press and release one single button and it opens all the way. Same to close. Same to tilt. Just one press, and you don't have to hold it.

    The Subaru one you have to press and hold, and of course it stops, twice I think. So you have to press and hold a button THREE TIMES to get the stinking thing to open or close all the way.

    Also, hers is programmable. You remove the key, it closes no matter what position it's in. We can also turn that feature off, if you really do want to leave it open (in a covered garage, maybe).

    It would be smaller than the wonderfully huge one in the Forester, though.

    -juice
  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Juice- You misread his post:

    "Actually, the aftermarket sunroof has a few features lacking in the Subaru sunroof" So he's agreeing with you.

    I think I have the same model as your wife. The auto close feature is especailly nice. However, I sometimes leave the sunroof tilted open to keep the interior cooler when I have to park in the sun.

    -Frank
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's when you get rain. :surprise:

    I stand corrected.

    -juice
  • jtm4jtm4 Posts: 60
    The extra features on the aftermarket sunroof make it tempting. It would be nice if the aftermarket sunroof was as big as the OEM. We've been looking into buying a 2005 Forester X with 8k and putting in the aftermarket sunroof. Around here you can get a new Forester X auto for around 19,000, though. Honestly, I prefer the grill on the '05 over the '06.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They're both OK to me. The 03-05 grille ended up resembling the Hyundai Elantra. The new one is more unique, a little Isuzu-ish IMO. It does sort of point its nose upward, like a snob. :D

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    FYI: The OEM mega moonroof does not tilt (at least it didn't in '04). I'm happy with my aftermarket moonroof as well, similar model to the others with auto open and close.

    -Brian
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