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2013 and earlier-Subaru Legacy Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • Can anyone tell me how much the prepaid maintenance plan the dealers sell should cost. I am about to lease a 2009 3.0R LTD for 3 years/45k and the amount the dealer wants for the plan seems to be a lot.

    How much should it cost?

    Also, if anyone can tell me what the lease on the car should cost, I'd appreciate it.

    I'm paying $464, tax (@ 7.375%) and lease inception fees included in the payment. Just 1st month and DMV up front..
  • I get quote for a legacy 2009 (new) 2.5L 4 cyl Fuel Injection
    Interior: Dark Gray
    Model Code: 9AD
    the OTD is 21673 (cash pay). Is this a good deal or not?
  • I get a I get quotation from a Subaru dealer for legacy 2009 out door price $21673.Do you think this is a good deal or not?
    I am in SD

    The details for this car listed below:
    Model/Code: 2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i / 9AD
    Exterior Color: Obsidian Black Pearl
    Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive (AWD)
    Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC)
    Anti-Lock Brakes: 4-Wheel Disc
    Subaru Advanced Frontal Air Bag System
    Side Curtain Air Bags
    Front Seat Side-Impact Air Bags
    3-Point Seatbelts, All Seating Positions
    Front Seatbelts: Height Adjustable
    with Pre-Tensioners & Force Limiters
    LATCH System for Child Safety Seats
    Active Front Seat Head Restraints
    Anti-Theft Alarm & Immobilizer
    Daytime Running Lights
    Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS)
    2.5L Horizontally-Opposed SOHC Engine
    17-Inch Aluminum Alloy Wheels
    Headlights, Multi-Reflector Halogen
    Windshield Wipers: Variable Intermittent
    Air Conditioning w/Air Filtration System
    AM/FM Stereo with CD Player
    Auxiliary Audio Jack
    XM/Sirius Satellite Radio Capable
    Multi-Function Trip Computer
    Outside Temperature Gauge
    Cruise Control, Tilt/Telescopic Steering
    Power Windows, Door Locks and Mirrors
    Remote Keyless Entry System
    Map Lights & Front Door Courtesy Lights
    Visor Vanity Mirrors: Dual-Illuminated
    Rear Seatback 60/40 Split Fold-Down
    Carpeted Floor Mats
    Dual Front & Rear Cupholders
    3 Years / 36,000 Miles Basic
    5 Years / 60,000 Miles Powertrain
    5 Yrs/Unlimited Mileage Rust Perforation
    See Owner Info Kit&Warranty For Details
  • For anyone who is curious, I just got what I think is a great lease deal on an 2009 Legacy SE (model 9AC). After getting the dealer to price match, I'm paying $2,590 final downpayment (including tax, reg. and all fees, 1st month) and $179/month for 24 months, 10,000mi/yr. The car is Diamond Gray with black interior, 5sp manual, and the dealer threw in all-weather floor mats and the winter safety kit. The list price on the vehicle was (I think) $22,085. Picked it up from Ramsey Subaru in Ramsey, NJ on New Years Eve. So far... I'm very pleased.
  • i just bought a 2005 legacy gt with 50k for $10,000. the person who owned it before me had a performance clutch with a short shifter put in about 1,000 miles ago and also a performance air intake system aswell. can anyone tell me how much if any horsepower this will add to my car? and also what other cost effective things i can do to add extra horsepower to my car.
  • stoopystoopy Posts: 105
    Yeah your payment is $179 per month for 24 months but you put down $2,590. That equates to over $286 per month on a zero down. People are getting Special Editions for under $230 per month, $220 on a manual trans. It's not really as good of a deal as you think. Sign and drive is the only way to go. Worst case scenario you pay the first payment. Doesn't make any sense to put money down on a lease.
  • could you please post a link or details to the $230/month se deal?

    much appreciated,
    jd
  • stoopystoopy Posts: 105
    This is an email quote I got from my local dealer with my only question being "how low can you go?"

    24 month-10000 miles a year
    MSRP:22790 SPECIAL ED. AUTOMATIC
    Cap cost 20020 plus acq fee of 595
    .00250 money factor (tier 1)
    72% residual value
    We are able to use the higher MSRP of 24540 before 1750 Special Edition package discount which in turn makes the lease even better. $227.30 per month, zero down.


    Again, this is an email quote I received from my local dealer after one email. I am sure you could do a little better if you hounded them a little. Keep in mind invoice is around $21,500 and there is $500 rebate and holdback of $763. So, obviously the dealer owns this car for even less than that.
  • thanks so much for the info. Would you mind sharing the name/location of the dealer? I'm in ny metro area and would take that lease in a heartbeat.
  • well, I've contacted 3 local dealers and can't come close to this rate. The sticking point is that they won't use the higher msrp.

    regards,
    jd
  • Sounds to me like you have a very greedy dealer. The only reason they would not use the higher MSRP to figure the lease is because they want that $1,750 as extra cash profit. I'd contact a different dealer. Get an email quote from Fitzmall. If they can't do it, no one can.
  • anyone know a dealer in the ny metro area that will do this deal?
  • There are some places in this world where things just cost more. Having been to New York several times I would definitely say IT IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES. Point being, you will probably have to branch out a little in your search. If you are looking for the cheapest gas around you don't just fill up at your corner station that is 30 cents higher than 2 blocks down do you? Send out some emails to a ton of dealers. Tell them you know the invoice price, residual, money factor, rebate, and their dealer holdback and you want their best price quote. Once you get some responses you will know who is being at least semi honest.
  • I have a question about buying a Subaru and some of the options that I have.

    I am currently leasing a Jetta, making my last payment in Feb and I was wondering if Subaru would buy the lease at the end, rather than trading it back in to VW or buying it myself and then trading it in to them. I would rather not deal with VW anymore because they are very shady and constantly throw out hidden costs and fees. I would rather go to Subaru and work out deal with them. The car is in great shape and I am a little over my miles, nothing drastic. I know there will probably be some negative equity since Subaru probably won't appraise it at the price VW wants at the end of the lease, so I know I will have a take a little hit but I was wondering if this was common practice or even feasible. Thanks..
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,743
    Sure... any dealer can take your car in trade...

    But, expect the difference to be many thousands... not just a little bit.. You'll probably be better off finacially to just turn the car back in, and then make your best deal on a new car, without the trade involved.

    regards,
    kyfdx

    MODERATOR
    Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • Thanks for the reply. The last time I traded in a car (in a similar condition), I ended up owing VW a thousand+ anyway, so I guess it couldn't hurt to see what Subaru's offer is before dealing with VW.
  • I spoke to someone that offers leases through AAA. He diidn't try to sell me a lease, he just helped me with advice on this one. Here are the points he made:

    - the residual for the le lease through a bank is 52%, through subaru credit 72
    - A bank can use the higher msrp, subaru credit will not, this is effectively a way to even out the residual
    - he thinks the low 200/month payment is a mistake at the dealer where they are using the wrong msrp.

    Again, he did not try to sell me anything, just spent 15 minutes with me giving advice and analyzing the deal.
  • stoopystoopy Posts: 105
    I would not ever recommend leasing from a bank. Just go into a local high volume Subaru dealer and start negotiating price. Tell them you know what invoice is and you will start there and go backwards. The $228 plus tax is very do-able.
  • I'm not suggesting leasing from a bank. I haven't seen anyone post confirmation that they have leased the car at the $228 rate recently (signed the lease in the last 2 weeks).
  • I should add that I've been into two of the highest volume subaru dealerships in ny and nj, the best rate was $300 and they let me walk out the door.
  • Not sure what changed, but this week I was able to get two dealerships offer $257, no money down, 10k/year, 2 year leases. I'm going to see if I can get it down to $237 or so.
  • Hi all,
    I have quoted several dealers on 2009 Legacy SE (auto). The best I get for now is $21,339 OTD. I live in Virginia. Does that sound a good price? Or should I bargain another 1k? Thank you.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    What is the sales tax in your state?

    MD is 6% for instance, so that would be a price near $20k, not bad.
  • yotryotr Posts: 3
    I just picked up my Legacy Special edition and got what I think is a great deal. I payed $20600 out the door with TTL included. I was trading in a 2008 Honda Accord LX but talks stalled on Friday (I basically was going to start looking at another Honda). They were going to give me what I owed on the Accord but they wanted a little over $23000 including TTL for the Legacy. They were going to throw in a few extras (at the times just tinted windows and wheel locks) but the price was to high and I didn't like the whole 63 months thing for financing. So the sales guy called me today and stated they had some new incentives (I think that really meant it's the end of the month and we really need to sell a car) that would allow me to finance the car, get the final price where I wanted it to be, and still drop my payments (of course the 63 months helped that but my payment would of only gone up about 10 bucks a month had I done 60). Well I pushed him more and got fog lights, wheel locks, tinted windows, trunk cargo net, and splash guards thrown in for free. I have to go back in a few days to get the splash guards and windows done. Overall it was pleasant buying experience (probably the least stressful in a long time). There was zero hassle from the finance guy about an extended warranty and he did give me a choice of going back to 60 months but I figure the 2 years free maintenance kind of makes up for it. Besides I am going to pay extra each month for awhile to offset the difference. I am very impressed with the car so far. I didn't hate my old car but it was to big (even with two young children) and it drove like a boat at times. I am really liking all wheel drive and honestly the car is very quick even for only having 170hp. I am kind of scared though as this is my first non-Honda car in about 7 years. Hopefully I don't regret it. A couple of friends at work swear by them. I think what helped me is I went to a small dealership that sells very few cars each month. They actually have two locations and the other one is the busy dealership. The guy that helped me works at the other one and flat out told me that had I been at his dealership, the cost would of been at least $1500-$2000 higher for the car (and that they would have never agreed to more than free window tinting). I will say, the quality and finish of the legacy is a noticeable upgrade from my Accord and that was nice car on the inside. I definitely don't feel like I downgraded at all (which is what I was worried about when researching the legacy). I know the resale value isn't as high as a Honda but honestly they don't seem very far behind plus it's cool owning a car that you almost never see on the road. Hopefully over time I will continue to sing Subaru's praises :).
  • robsisrobsis Posts: 160
    Sounds like you got a deal that you are happy with, and that is the most important thing when it comes to car buying, IMHO. I love our new '09 Leggy and have been a Subie convert for several years now.

    Interesting that the dealer did not push the extended on you, as our dealer just threw a very high price down and basically wanted us to just turn it down, saying it was way too costly for as reliable a vehicle as the Subie is. We later got an offer from Subaru of America for the same warranty at 40% of the cost that we were offered at the dealership. Turned that down too, tho, as we've put very little repair $ in our Subies and most of that was after they've rolled over 100k, when the warranty wouldn't have been in effect anyway.

    Back to your new ride, what color did you get??

    Enjoy the Subie experience!

    Robert
  • Congrats on your new ride. It sounds like you got a great deal. Paying $23K would have been crazy. You can get a Limited for less than that. I think you'll find that these cars are pretty durable. One thing that sold me (we own two '08s) was the large number of older Subarus on the streets in my area. I'm not sure I agree with you about interior fit and finish (Honda still does a really fine job, although Subaru is very good), but on the outside, the Subaru's paintwork rivals cars that cost thousands more. Now that you're part of the club, you should check in regularly on the Subaru forums here and at legacygt.com. Lots of great advice available from other owners.
  • yotryotr Posts: 3
    White satin pearl and it is beautiful! My salesperson basically told the finance guy ahead of time that I was on a budget and to just get me out of there as quickly as possible. I was shocked as I have never had a salesperson let alone a finance guy do this. It's usually a battle to see if you will cave and buy the extended warranty.
  • yotryotr Posts: 3
    Honestly I would have agreed with you on the Honda interior being better than the Subaru if I was going by the previous honda's I have owned. Honda missed a step with the newly redesigned Accord. It's way to big and is a shell of it's former self (I had the last gen version also which was a fantastic car). It was also the only Honda I have ever owned that had nearly a dozen rattles/creaks within a couple of weeks. My friend also has an 08 Accord (coupe) and has the same issue with his interior. Couple that with seats that are very uncomfortable and a loud engine and you have a car that barely resembles the Accord I held in such high regard. It's not a bad car but I can honestly say it is the first honda I was genuinely disappointed in. By reading other posts in the Honda forums, I am not the only one that thought that. Also, I don't know if Honda changed their paint recently but I have never had so many issues keeping a car swirl mark free. It was a magnet for them. If the Subaru holds up, my wife and I will be looking toward a Forester in a couple of years as a replacement to our ever aging GMC Envoy.
  • you guys sound like you know what you're talking about. could you guys give me your opinion on this dealer's offer? is he being straight up?

    2008 Subaru legacy 2.5 GTLimited.
    current options it has installed are:
    * All Weather Floor Mats
    * Auto-Dimming Mirror w/Compass
    * Off Black Center Armrest Extension

    Out the door would be $30,300.
    0% for 2 years.

    It's a test drive car with about 40 miles on it.

    Given the economic climate, you think he could do better?

    Thanx for any info!
  • robsisrobsis Posts: 160
    Our 09 Legacy Ltd is also Satin Pearl...We just love the color, too!

    As to the non-pressure, methinks they just wanted to sell you a car, and saw this as the way to do it.

    Congrats.
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