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2013 and earlier-Subaru Legacy Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • pam4waterpam4water Posts: 14
    edited July 2010
    I'm looking in the Pittsburgh area at buying a 2010 or 2011 Legacy -- the closest I can get to the base model -- with an automatic transmission. The 2010 Legacys seemed to have disappeared. I got a price of $20,848 (+ tax & plates) or ($22,329 out the door with 6% tax $1,251). That was forthe darker blue 2010 Legacy 2.5i Premium could not make up my mind and now it's gone. Was that a good price? I just notice the price for plates was $230.15 that seems high. The subaru website lists a 2.5i without the Premium pages but I don't see them in any of the dealers inventory. Are they like the base model for Camrys only sold a fleet cars?

    A couple of the dealers near me have 1 each of the 2010 caramel colors 2.5i Premium left. I guess that is not a surprise. When I view the dealer inventories on line they show a dozen of outbacks and Foresters in stock and only 1 or 2 Legacys. And the 2011 seem slow in arriving. I'm almost thing about switching to a Forester if the Forester's road noises are too bad on the highway. I just bought pricing report for a consumer magazine. It was not really very helpful. Fitz Automall doesn't have a Subaru deal instate I'd have to drive Maryland to buy from them which seems a bit far.
  • I just got home from buying a 2010 Graphite Gray Legacy 2.5GT w/ moonroof, spoiler, XM and all-weather mats and I was out the door for $26,350 including all fees/taxes/doc, etc. I am thinking of having them add the auto-dimming rear-view mirror with homelink and the fog lamps. I live in NH and bought the car at Exeter Subaru in Stratham. Pretty easy to deal with. This was the advertised price and they would not budge a dime. They do have two others on the lot for a similar price (one blue with a moonroof and one gray w/o moonroof).

    I was a little disappointed with the quality of the materials inside the car coming from a BMW 330, but a new 2010 328xi with moonroof, power seat, etc... is about $34k-$35k. Hopefully the reliability is good.
  • skomanskoman Posts: 24
    I agree with your comments on the quality of materials inside the car. I posted my purchase on post 808 here and there are several little issues I have. The passenger door sounds hollow when I close it, like they forgot some insulation or something and the rearview mirror was much too low as it totally created a blind spot in my front field of vision. I had this fixed at an auto-glass shop for $20 as the dealer said they could not help me (disappointing) I have the XM mounted inside the front windshield above the passenger seat and the receiption is poor in the cities and mountains and valleys. In my old subaru I had it on the roof and I had no issues and it seems they have fixed this in the 2011 models with a fin on top. Lastly the driver seat seems cheap and squeeky especially on the left edge where I get in and out. Yes I am a big guy at 275 but I never have this happen in any of the many rental cars I rent monthly for work or in my 13 year old Subaru previous to this.

    The best thing is I am averaging over 30 mpg and I do about 90% highway driving so I am really pleased with that. Too bad the other stuff is not up to par as I hope to keep this 15 years.
  • louk2louk2 Posts: 1
    A 2010 Legacy GT w/ moon roof, spoiler, etc. for $26 K and some change? Was that some kind of promotional price or special discount below invoice?
  • cway77cway77 Posts: 5
    Hello,

    I am going to be looking at an 07 Legacy 2.5i which is black, has spoiler, and moon roof. Dealership listed this at first 17,500 and is now at 15,666. Going to be looking at this soon and just wondering thought on this price. Will I have any bargaining room I am surely going to offer less if I am interested but from what I have seen from pics looks to be in excellent shape. Also thinking about leasing and wondering if I am really coming out a head buying a used vs leasing with the interest rates. Seems like the prices are comparable. Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!

    Chad
  • I own two '08 Subarus, bought new, and the price for the '07 seems high to me. If the car has cloth upholstery, it's probably an SE model and, if I had to guess, I'd say it's worth around $13-$14K. I do remember that the SEs, when they were new, were advertised by dealers at the high-teen to $20K level, especially near the end of the model year. Even today, places like Fitzmall are selling NEW 2011 Legacys for under $21K. About a year ago, Subaru offered me $16K and change for my '08 Legacy Limited with low mileage as part of their buyback program. So, all in all, I don't think there's much to support the dealer price for the '07 you're looking at. I think you have plenty of bargaining room and if the dealer isn't flexible, I'd look elsewhere. It would also help to know the mileage and whether the car is manual or automatic.
  • cway77cway77 Posts: 5
    Thats great info thanks! The seats are not leather and it has 31,000 miles on it. Around here in WI there aren't a whole lot of them around so don't have a whole lot to judge from besides the GT's and that is more of a step up so hard to judge. There was an 06 with 2.5i with 41,000 that sold for over 11,000 here i was just to late so that why I thought the 15,666 seemed high. Looks like it was a three year lease that someone just turned it. Thanks again for the insight much appreciated!

    Chad
  • edong1edong1 Posts: 3
    2010 subaru legacy 2.5i premium
    MSRP 23739
    Invoice 22514
    Quote 21,000+TTL

    Is this price good?
  • easypareasypar ColoradoPosts: 173
    A couple of months ago I would have thought that was a good price, but now that the '11s are in showrooms I'm not sure. What other "extras" does it have? Or what "extras" (all weather mats, etc) can you get them to add? Are you in an area with a lot of competing dealers like CO or someplace like TX where there is little competition?

    I know someone who got a great deal on a "leftover" 2010 Outback here in CO because the dealer wanted to clean out the last of them, but they wouldn't budge much on the 2011s.

    Good luck

    easypar
  • Just purchased a Satin White Pearl 3.6R Premium. Options are: Harman/kardon premium audio system, auto dim mirror/compass/homelink, all-weather floormats, puddle lights, and remote engine start. With destination, MSRP is 29,997. Edmunds TMV is $29,055, invoice is $27,784. Price paid was $29,000 + TTL. These vehicles are rare in my area, and I have been looking for months. I know it's not the best price, but I feel it was good deal since I bought the car the day it came off the truck.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Congrats, sweet ride!
  • you are right not a great deal, but it sounds like you got exactly what you wanted. Sometimes price isn't everything.

    i personally am willing to not get the exact color or feature in order to get a better price but I realize some people are willing to pay that premium.

    Enjoy the ride!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Not me.

    I had a slightly better deal on a red Miata, but a red sports car is ticket bait.

    I paid a little more for blue, though it did have more equipment anyway.
  • sellaturcicasellaturcica Posts: 145
    edited November 2010
    I just bought a 2009 Legacy SE manual with 18k miles for $16k. What I wasn't expecting was the finance guy offering me the chance to Subaru "certify" the car, which has 1.5 years and 18k miles left on the factory warranty. By "certify" he seems to mean extending the powertrain warranty to 6 years/100k and then selling me a "Gold" level Subaru service/certification plan, which is purely exclusionary and has a $100 per visit deductible for another 3 years after the factory warranty ends, so until sometime in 2015. We started at $1690 for this service, and now we are down to $1300. It is apparently refundable and transferrable.

    This doesn't seem like that bad a deal, but I've been taught the rule of thumb is not to buy these. This is from the original manufacturer, so is no fly by night company that will disappear. It will also probably add at least $500-$800 of value if I decide to sell the car at some point in the next couple years- I can't lose that bad, can I?

    Also, shouldn't the car have to pass some sort of certification process for it to be Subaru certified?
  • sellaturcicasellaturcica Posts: 145
    edited November 2010
    Never mind- looks like what he's trying to sell me really is a service contract that he's vastly overcharging me for. Never say yes to anything in the finance department!
  • timadamstimadams Posts: 294
    I know dealers like to sell what they already have in stock. Second choice is to trade with another nearby dealer. But is it possible to special order a Subaru from the Indiana factory? I want a Legacy 2.5i Limited in Azurite Blue with a remote start, auto-dim mirror and splash guards, and there are none at any nearby dealers. I want that color so I can have the light interior, and I don't want a moonroof. Do dealers make less on a customized order, or can't you do that with Subaru?
  • cptpltcptplt Posts: 1,075
    edited November 2010
    dealers can always order from the factory for a specific trim/option combination, there is a cutoff date` the factory gives them each month to get the vehicle produced in the next months production schedule. I have done this twice. So at the least you may have to wait a little more than a month, or close to 2 months if you just missed the cutoff date.

    only other issue is that any factory incentives etc are whatever they have when you get delivery, not at the time of the order. probably not a big deal as they haven't changed much all year and usually only get better nearer to the new year anyway.

    pricing should be the same regardless of whether its on their lot, traded with another dealer or custom ordered, unless its been sitting on their lot for months and they want to move it and give you a big discount like the one painted fluorescent pink:-). the sales manager I dealt with told me they like factory orders as they know it will be sold, they will have little/no finance costs holding it on their lot till it is sold, it increases the number of cars they may be ordering that month which in turn has all sorts of upsides for them from SOA down the line in terms of future allocations/bonuses etc.
  • Unless your dealers are geographically far apart or are lazy, I can't imagine that they wouldn't try to trade with each other to find your color combination. My dealer did that for me at no extra charge. All of the other items you mentioned for the car are accessories that can be added at any dealer. Or, if you want to try to install them yourself, you can order the parts online at a substantial discount and also save on the labor. I installed the splash guards myself and I'm no mechanic. Subaru deliberately limits colors and focuses on dealer-installed accessories to keep costs down and still give buyers a reasonable choice. I would negotiate a price for the car you want and ask your dealer to go find it. If that doesn't work, as another poster suggested, you can always order from the factory.
  • timadamstimadams Posts: 294
    I live in a rural area, and the dealers are indeed far apart. My salesperson searched and couldn't find one to trade. I did a search of all dealers within a couple hundred miles, and there are no cars with the color and options I want, or even very similar, as a matter of fact.

    In addition, my dealer is telling me adding the accessories at the dealership costs more than if they are already installed, due to dealer labor costs. For example, I want a remote starter. If installed at the factory, it costs $318 invoice and $424 MSRP. The dealer wants $506 to install it, at least $100 to $150 more than if it were already installed. The same applies to the splash guards. Yes, the sales department should eat some of that extra, and I would be willing to pay a bit more, but there are no azurite blue limited legacies without sunroofs anywhere near me to trade for.

    I think I'll order what I want and wait the 4 to 8 weeks. My salesperson said I can do that. I now need to nail down the price of the new car and my trade-in.
  • My car was just totaled and I've been searching for the elusive 2.5i Limited with the specs that I wanted. In my search, as of 11.30.10 (car totaled this past Monday) I found the limited that YOU were looking for at Ed Shults Subaru Dealership in Warren PA 814.726.3150. Bob, who I've only met over the phone, has a 2010 dealer vehicle that's a 2010 Subaru Legacy Limited 2.5i in Azurite Blue Pearl with 5,000 miles on it. He told me that they're "motivated" to sell it and it's invoice is $24,XXX (I don't remember the last few digits). Being a dealer car it hasn't been registered and it is still considered new as far as financing is concerned. It could be worth the drive/flight to save a couple of thousand dollars on it. I believe it does have a moonroof, so you would have to "suffer" with that. Unfortunately, I want a dark interior with the graphite gray and it's pretty popular. Any idea on an actual base invoice price for the 2011 2.5 limited's? I was given an offer of $100 over invoice of $24,100+$100= $24,200 and feel they were too eager to throw that price out...and I would be leaving money on the table. The model I'm actually looking for has a few more bells and whistles...but I need to better understand my starting point. If anyone has any ideas, please share...I need a replacement ASAP. Thanks!
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