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I thought that was the "basic" mirror, self-dimming with compass. Or is there actually one that doesn't have the compass? I don't know, I'm really asking.
easypar
Dealer installed options: Remote starter, fog lights, auto-dim mirror with compass, splash guards, front & rear all weather mats
$24,284 + Tax
Fort Collins, CO
What do you folks think? Is it a good deal?
I dont know what the dealer talking about DEALER INSTALLED option
they are pretty much come from factory.
I just put a deposit to get the outback premium edition with all weather package... whichis $25k. plus all those stupid tax and fees!
Some discounte: -275
Dealer installed options: 1,283.23 (See #2507)
Total: 24,284.23
The sales person told me that Subaru has stopped production of 2010 models and has started production of 2011 models which will be sold beginning in July. So instead of installing these options at the factory, they will be installed at the dealership. The dealer didn't have the base model in stock so the sales person checked the central inventory and found some base models going to other dealers. The dealer will trade cars with the other dealers and get me the base model and then install the options.
I would like to know how much more would the premium model cost. If it is not significantly different I would rather buy that than adding options to the base.
Which dealer quoted you. Dellenbach never replied to my emails but everyone else, Boulder, Longmont, Greeley and Loveland replied within 24 hours. I ended up buying from Loveland (I live in Loveland) as they were within $50 of being the lowest.
The prices quoted on subaru dot com are INSTALLED prices, regardless of who/where installed.
easypar
+ Accessory prices shown do not include installation costs. Actual price is set by the dealer and may differ by dealer based on local installation or labor costs. Prices, specifications, options, features and models are subject to change without notice.
From the website the options will cost $1,085, while the dealer installed them for me for 1,283.23 which includes parts and labor.
I compared dealers in Longmont, Fort Collins, Plano (TX), Denton(TX), Arlington
(TX), Hurst(TX) and Delenbach at Fort Collins was cheapest.
Thanks
- mats
- auto-dimming mirror w/ homelink
- rear bumper cover
- splash guards
- remote starter
I've negotiated but the best price I can get is $30857.44. This seems much more than what everyone else is paying. I'm in Seattle also so I don't know if that makes a difference. Also, I've been looking at truecar.com and edmunds and they all say that most people payed between invoice and MSRP (not below invoice).
If anyone could help or could give me some helpful advice, I would be more than grateful.
Kev.
Looks like you got a a great price, by their definition. Is the car what you want? That's the most important thing.
As for me - I have decided to buy a Volvo V70, so the issue of having to replace a mirror is no longer on my worry list. ;-)
What about the "mirror" was wrong with the Subaru? Why did you decide on a V70?
Thanks so much for answering. Other comments appreciated.
Re the Subaru mirror: there was one Outback 3.6 coming in that the dealer put on "reserve" for us (I have to go back now and tell him we won't be buying that), but it had the auto-dimming mirror that did not include Homelink. I would have had to pay $270-something to replace the mirror to get Homelink. When I asked about a "credit" against the original mirror, he said they don't do that, but they would give me that mirror which I could do with as I wanted - which would have been to sell it on E-bay or something. Kind of a nuisance. Not really a deal-breaker, but certainly a negative point.
It was a tough choice between the Subie and the Volvo. Both are safe and practical cars and would have met our needs. Some of the reasons I ended up with Volvo, in no particular order: seats fold completely flat. We will be transporting our dogs in their crates, plus luggage, etc., so this was a big plus. The back end of the Volvo, since it's more upright, gives more interior room than the Subie. The Homelink comes in the car in the packages I ordered; I wouldn't have had to mess around with replacing a brand-new part with another brand-new part. (Some Subies of course do come with the HL in it; this particular one did not.)
The Volvo felt more comfortable and had a more attractive interior.
It has front-wheel drive instead of four-wheel drive, and here in Virginia, not a snow-belt state, I felt FWD was preferable.
Mileage is similar between the two.
I liked the BLISS system on the Volvo (Blind Spot Information System). A yellow light on the side mirrors goes on if someone enters your blind spot. I live in the D.C. area where traffic moves fast; this seemed like a useful feature.
The V70 is going to be discontinued after this year; this means the dealers are ready to make some very favorable price cuts. The MSRP of the Volvo was higher than the Subie, but the sales price ended up being about the same either way. To me it seemed overall a better car for the money.
The load floor of the Volvo is a bit lower than the load floor of the Subie: I liked that and could imagine I would really appreciate that when loading up luggage, etc.
Handling seemed better, and it was quieter.
That's basically it; might have been a few more reasons but those are the things that were probably the most important factors.
Is it offered by Subaru? Or some 3rd party?
- Limited
- Moonroof
- Options package 2A (puddle lights, mud guards, rear bumper cover)
- Homelink Auto-dimming mirror with compass
- Media hub
- All weather mats
MSRP was $33,868
Got it for $31,850 + tax/title. Seems reasonable according to truecars.com
I'm in the Southeast (north Florida). It had just come off the truck. Got the silver steel; had seen the azurite blue on the lot a few days back but it was sold the next day. Got a few hundred $ knocked off because I balked at the black interior of this one.
I decided to purchase from the dealer's stock rather than order one. Dealer said that orders starting April 12 will be for the 2011 model; shipped in mid-summer. I hope there aren't too many goodies that I'll miss for not waiting. But the 2.9% financing was a great deal for the 2010s.
It was impossible to even find a 3.6 around here (Northern Virginia) to test drive. I was taking it on faith that I would probably like it better than a 2.5. They really can't keep those things in stock, they are so popular. And/or Subaru is not building enough to meet demand.
I was able to test drive the 3.6R back in ~February when a customer-ordered car came in. That pretty much convinced me. I had been deciding between the Outback and a CPO 2008 MDX (was still looking for the right one). But I'm an Outback gal (this is now my 3rd Outback/Legacy)!
Because most other cars in this size/class (family cars) have rear air vents, the only other I know that doesn't is the Accord which I had and it gets hot back there. I'm not the only one to have noticed/complained about this. I know a few people that would've bought this car till they found this out. Obviously if you don't put anyone back there, than not a big deal I suppose.
When people start comparing one car to another, a lot of little negatives can finally push a buyer toward something else with more positives in those little areas.
Auto CVT trans
All Weather Pkg
Pop Equip Grp 1B = Auto dim mirror with homelink and sec syst shock sensor
All wthr floor mats
Rear bmpr cvr
Moon roof
harmon kardon stereo
$26,418 before taxes,tags,license + $200 to get it from another dealer
Having said that they need to bring the folding mirrors back. Someone here already broke one.
I ended up with the Volvo V70, for around $36,000. Very comparable in price to top-of-line Outback 3.6 Ltd, with all the packages as equal as possible. There were still more features on the Volvo that the Subie just couldn't offer - completely fold-flat seats, the folding side mirrors (which also have the Blind Spot Information System, and they dip to show the curb when you're in reverse), rear air circulation vents, height adjustment on the passenger side as well as on the driver side, etc.)
Not to hijack the Subaru thread here, because I do think the Outback is a great vehicle and clearly it's designed to appeal to a particular market. I'm just wondering if they need to re-think some of the cuts they made from previous editions (like the folding mirrors). If they can't offer them standard, at least have them in one of the trim packages so people can outfit their car as they would really like.
The R Premium is $28,995. The base XC70 is $37,950 (that's the model with AWD).
I guess you didn't need AWD, but there's still about $9 grand difference or so between similar models. Maybe less if Volvo adds incentives.
:P
Skyice - I doubt you are going to find it less than $26,000, as that is $957 under invoice with those exact options. I'm sure you can get it for $26,657 ($300 under invoice) no-haggle (and no added fees) from Carter if you speak with their internet sales manager. I have purchased two cars from him at that price and both were smooth, enjoyable experiences. So, if you are at ~$500 over invoice right now, you can get a better price. This is nearing the end of the model year as well, so that should factor into your ability to negotiate.
Did you refer to Carter Subaru Shoreline in Seattle? Did you get the price you mentioned above for the same configuration as 4343 and I want? Also, do you know if I can get more discount if I pay cash?
As you may know that I need to import the car to Canada, Canadian Registrar of Imported Vehicles requires the installation of daylight system and electronic immobilization system before import. I wonder if Subaru outback has these features already. Do you know about it?
Sorry for too many question.
Thanks again.
The Outback comes with daytime running lights and a key immobilizer - I am not sure if that is the same as you mentioned.
There is a very good deal, VPP pricing plus rebates, so you can get nearly $7k off FX now, maybe $8k.
I didn't even notice the lack of side folding mirrors on the Outback. I thought that was a mandated law in USA? I know it is in Europe.
My dilemma now is should I pull the trigger or wait for the 2011's to come out? I hear they will be available near the end of July but the dealer can't or won't confirm it. I also have an issue with all of my Yakima rack stuff not working with the OB's rack set-up. That may be the deal killer unless I can find a solution from Yakima. It appears Thule may have solved the problem but I can't confirm that Yak has.
I have contacted Carter. Unfortunately, they don't sell car to Canadian due to so-called dealer agreement. It is a shame! But other dealers still can. So, I have to go bargaining the price with other dealers who want to sell a car to me.
Geely plans to increase production but the engineering and manufacturing will still be with Volvo in Sweden.
I wondered what would happen when Ford bought Volvo. It brought some new development ideas to the company (the 3.2 engine in the V70 comes from the collaboration with Ford), but it certainly did not turn the company into a Swedish Ford.
In short, I'm not worried about Geely's ownership.
The website says the accessories are from OEM. For example, all weather mats (front & rear) cost $60 atthe dealership but $44 from the website. I am thinking of buying cargo nets, cargo mat, and other accessories from www.subaruparts.com rather than from the dealer. The website also has remote engine starter, fog lamp kit, etc. but I don't know how to install them so I will stick with dealer for that.