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Mazda MPV Prices Paid and Buying Experience

steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,633
edited March 15 in Mazda
New owners, please tell us about buying your van. Thanks!

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  • scott31scott31 Posts: 280
    Got our Midnight Blue LX on 2/28/03.

    Came with:

    Rear A/C
    4 seasons
    6-disc CD
    ABS/Traction Pkg
    Power Doors
    Rear Bumper plate
    Rear spoiler
    Fog lights
    AutoDimming rearview mirror

    $24,516 S-Plan price.

    Brown's Mazda in Alexandria. Buying experience was fantastic.
  • bsvollerbsvoller Posts: 528
    '03 Sage Green LX on 7/9/2003 with:

    Traction Control/Air Bags
    Power Moonroof
    4 Seasons
    Rear Air
    Fog Lights
    Rear Spoiler
    Wheel Locks
    Cargo Organizer
    Rear Bumper Step Pad
    Class III hitch, wiring harness, brake controller
    Auto-dimming Mirror

    Took $2000 rebate and financed 60 months at 4.34% through dealer. Put about 35% down with rebate before taxes and tags.

    Price before taxes & tags (includes destination): $23249

    Buying experience at McDonald's Automotive in Littleton, CO was excellent.

    -brianV
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,027
    '03 Sage green LX purchased on 7/11/03

    DVD
    Rear air
    4 seasons
    Roof rack

    S-Plan price $21,726

    Purchased from Mazda of Lakewood, CO. which was the best buying experience I've ever had.
  • aia1aia1 Posts: 6
    Cory Fairbanks Mazda Longwood Fla....Currently under investigation by Florida Attorney General's office. I unfortunately found out why. The place is a high stakes casino were the odds are stacked in favor of the house. Paid too much. Felt ripped off...I was told that cops are called almost weekly by distraught customers. I had my full deal put together for an EX but they did not have the right car. I made the mistake of switching to the LX and that's when everything fell apart. I should have smelled the rats before signing. Lessons learned....but this dealership is a blight on the Mazda brand.
  • We were offered a invoice price of $23,373 for a 2003 LX MPV with 16" alloy rims, wheel locks, power sliding doors, rear air, roof rack and rear step plate. We were going to but 2 grand down and take the 0% financing. The problem is that we would lose about $1500 on our trade-in. We don't need the car but would like to have a minivan.

    I need some outside input. Pros/Cons?....Take it/Leave it?.....Negotiate somemore?

    Thanks.
  • robevtsrobevts Posts: 22
    Is the dealer offering 0 financing on the invoice price?? If so I think it would be a very fair deal. I was checking out MPVs at dealers in Tucson, and they only give 0 if you pay MSRP. Maybe they are trying to make up for it buy screwing you on your trade. It was a joke what they offered on my 98 caravan. I ended up selling it in the paper last week for 3000.00 more than what the best price the dealers would give me for it. I priced it fairly, and sold it to the first person that came to look too!...piece of cake. My experience over the past decades has always been that the dealer always has the financial upperhand when you trade. Anyway, we really liked the MPV, but last wknd, I ended up putting a 500 dep on a 2003 odyssey that I got in Houston for invoice. Good luck with your vehicle purchase!
  • rj8957rj8957 Posts: 1
    2003 MPV LX
    Silver metallic
    Rear air
    Roof rack
    Rear bumper step

    Sticker: $24,500
    Paid: $20,200 + tax and dest. at Morande Mazda, Manchester, CT

    We love this van, looks great (for a minivan) rides great, feels solid, very functional, best vehicle I've ever owned.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    As far as trades are concerned, you have to understand that the used car market took 2 large hits over the past few years. (1) All the lease returns. In the mid 90s the dealerships pushed leases and all of a sudden people were returning the vehicles to the dealership and leasing new cars. The good is they buy or lease a new car, the bad iss what do you do with all of these used cars. So the dealerships are stuck with all of these used cars on their lots. If they can't sell them, then they go to auction where you get less then the car is worth. Thus it re-adjusts what the car is worth on the lots and for lease returns. Too much supply and not enough demand. It creates a nasty cycle. (2) Sept. 11th and all the rebates that followed. When a manufacturer offers a cash rebate on a car, that money is comes off the value of the car. So a car that is $15k with a $1500 rebate has a true value of $13,500. Now all the used cars get re-adjusted based on that price. So two years ago, there was a major adjustment in the value of cars. You have the rebates being offered and all these off lease cars on the used car market drove down the cost of used cars. Also is caused many problems for leasing companies. The Guaranteed value of the car after X years (in the lease contract)was now too high. So they were stuck with cars that were lower in value then they guaranteed.

    Right now, the only way to expect a good money for your trade is if you have a late model car in demand or if the dealer is really trying to get asale. Otherwise, you are better off sellingit on your own.
  • Yeah, we leased the car a 2000 Nissan Maxima SE in June of 2000. It was a new design and people were paying top dollar for the car then. We were able to write-off some of the expenses but I hate to have to dish out an additonal $1500 for "nothing." We are negotiating with the dealer to see if they will give us an additonal $500 off the selling price or towards the trade-in value. 0% on a $24,000 minivan is a pretty good deal. We will see what happens. Thanks for the info
  • scott31scott31 Posts: 280
    NEVER put money down on 0% financing.....

    NEVER
  • What's wrong with putting money down on 0% financing?
  • ccnaccna Posts: 3
    It makes no sense to put money down on a 0% loan. You are getting a free interest loan so why cheat yourself. It doesn't cost anything to borrow money for next 5 years. Only reason I can see why someone would put money down on a 0% loan is, if they want to pay it off quicker or have lower monthly payment they can work with. You can also pay it off quicker by paying extra each month but why would anyone do that unless they just want to pay it off qucker.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    0% financing - Don't forget some manufacturers require you put 10% down on the 0% financing. It all depends on how long you plan to keep the car. Now I would definitely say never put any money on a lease except the required fees.
  • Thanks for all of the input. We picked up a 03 LX about a week and a half ago. We got the car for invoice with 0% financing but were upside down on our trade-in. So we put a little down to lower the monthly payments.
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,030
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  • I went to a dealer in Oakland...BIG mistake. At first they were happy to sell me the car at $20,055 before taxes and before the $2,500 REBATE. Then they found out I had a pre-approved loan from my Credit Union and they freaked out. The salesman even yelled at me and told me I should be ashamed....how he had to keep the lights on and so on it really got ugly for no good reason other than he couldn't screw me on th financing and stuff. I walked and am still searching to match the deal someplace else. o
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,633
    Makes this new article even more timely:

    Financing Pitfalls and Solutions

    And it's ok to name dealers, per the blurb above. Best leave the salesperson out of it though :-)

    Steve, Host

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • daron1daron1 Posts: 18
    I'm in the midst of dealing for an '03 MPV, or passing it buy & waiting for an '04. I'd love the cash back rebate, but I also wouldn't mind waiting...since I've waited this long...for a slightly updated '04. I almost gave up hope trying to find one optioned exactly as I wanted...w/ the all-sports package, etc. CW11 over on the MPV string re-kindled my hopes when he wrote about finding such a package in NY. I had a dealer in MD look one last time, & they found one in midnight blue...which was not my color choice, but not bad either. Anyway, he offered 24480 + 99 dealer fee. I countered w/ Edmunds price of 23698. He was suprised I was asking for the car below(-204)invoice. Another web site gave a market price of 24141, which is 239 over invoice. He's getting back to me today. Should I hold out for the Edmunds TMV on a van I 95% like, but am not emotionally tied to...yet? Thanks
  • I am in the market for a "bare bones" '03 MPV ES.

    I live in Central Arkansas, and there are not many to choose from. So, I went to the Mazda site and started searching nearby cities and states and was amazed at how many '03 MPV ES's are still available. At least 1000 between Chicago, St Louis, Tulsa, Kansas City, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and Shreveport.

    That seems like a very large number given that it is at the end of the model year. It also tells me that holding out for Edmunds TMV is not unreasonable.

    On Sunday, I requested a quote from 4 dealers across 3 states and so far I have received only one real response (the rest were automated responses).

    I am going to hang tough until the end of the month and see just how hungry these guys are.

    Ben Settle
    Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    that the inventory listings on the Mazda site aren't always up-to-date. It could be behind a week or so. It's best to call the dealer or check their website for a more to up-to-date listing. There is also a phone number at Mazda to call to see where vehicles are (at the port, en route, etc.)

    -Brian
  • lumbarlumbar Posts: 421
    Don't know where you are in Md. but have you tried either of the Fitzgerald dealerships in Annapolis or Frederick. They both show MPVs for a little under invoice on the website. Of course they may not have exactly what you're looking for, but they appear to be a couple of hundred below even after the cash back.
  • daron1daron1 Posts: 18
    I live in NE MD & I found a dealer in Bel Air who was willing to help me & has been great, so far, to work with. Earlier, a dealership in DE couldn't find ANY w/sports pkg., so the MD dealer atleast found one...maybe it was in Annapolis or Frederick? Anyway, I've pretty much decided to wait for an '04, which my dealer told me he could get for me at invoice...and then I'll have exactly what I want. Now I just have to find some official, NA photos so that I can see exaclty what I'm getting. Thanks again.
  • lumbarlumbar Posts: 421
    I've kind of decided to wait too, but there are some deals on 03s that are pretty hard to pass up. This one in Frederick almost got me:

    http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/resultsb.asp?Search=NEW&ID=03- 76865&photo=MA03MP2ESA&loc=FCG&mall=FD&year=2003&- amp;mk_code=MA

    I'm hoping the 04s are actually pretty close to the Japanese pictures we've seen. The titanium 04 is one nice van IMO.
  • This is from a post (#6369) I entered back in August in the MPV chat when my wife and I had just purchased our MPV ES. I never got a response over in the other chat, so if someone is able to provide me with an answer here, it'd be greatly appreciated..thx.

    Howdy Yall! Like 2 intro myself..me'n the missus're proud new owners of '02 MPV ES..since we got it, found this here msg board..went back to start of conversation on '02s and read all way to latest msgs today (3 days..yes i have a j-o-b, but your discussions were that riveting 2 say the least)..anyways, just wanted to say, glad 2 be able to join the discussions of MPVs...u guys r so passionate about your vehicles..i like that..i'm a car nut! reading, working on (although I don't, wish i new how)...anyway..want your opinions on whether i got ripped off/not..here goes...purchased:

    '02 MVP ES: std w/ all std 02 ES stuff; no moonroof, spoiler, 6D CD changer, foglights, or DVD (want DVD tho for 6yo daughter).

    Had 11,200K miles, paid $20,860 + ttl, warrant (gold pack, extd from 3/50 > 6/100) & gap ins..total = 24331.44 at 4.1%/72mos. pmt = 385.20/mo. 1st pmt not due for 3mos.

    Good deal or bad?

    forgot to mention..no money down, no trade in either.
  • According to Edmunds TMV - you can buy a new barebones ES for $21,935 (after $2500 rebate). That's about $1100 more than your '02. Only you can determine whether the 11,000 miles was worth the $1100 difference.

    Now, that TMV is below invoice, so it depends on the dealer and your negotiating skills whether or not you can get that price.

    BTW, according to the www.mazdausa.com website there are a lot of '03 MPVs still available, including the ES model.
  • Wagner Mazda, Fostoria Ohio
    2003 MPV LX; 4 seasons pkg; all-sport pkg; rear air; traction control/side air bags; roof rack, wheel locks; (MSRP 25,890)
    Actual Total $21,620 =
    Invoice 23810 + 200, - 2500 rebate, + 110 doc/title fee.
    That's not quite as low as the Edmunds TMV "below invoice" deals, but the dealer had it delivered to me out of state (200 mi). I still have to pay my sales tax when I register it.
    Took 2 5-minute phone calls to negotiate, and 3 minutes to sign papers when it was delivered.
    No nasty dealings with F&I, no pushy extended warranty plans, no overpriced dealer add-ons (I can buy a can of Scotchgard myself, thank you).
    I won't be losing any sleep over whether I could have maybe gotten the same van for $200-300 less.
    I have been watching the inventory in 4 - 5 states for about a month now. There seem to still be quite a few of the low-price SV models and also the high-end SEs - but not too many in the just-right middle of the range.
  • Purchased '03 LX at Sunflower Mazda in Lenexa, KS on 10/18. All seasons pkg, wheel locks, roof rack, moonroof . . . sticker $26,045. Discounts and rebate brought down to $21,328 before taxes.

    I'd been driving a '91 Toyota Previa (original owner). That was a very serviceable vehicle and still has some life in it. Buying decision included test drives of Odyssey and Sienna, as well as some SUV's. MPV seemd the best fit for my situation (overall family utility + economy + reliability + price), and I found the driving position/seat comfort to be the best of the lot for me. The MPV's handling is a bonus in the equation.

    Hope this vehicle turns out to be as sound a long-term investment as the Previa was.
  • 4 seasons, rear air, roof rack. $22,500 before $2,500 hundred rebate. Good deal?
  • scott31scott31 Posts: 280
    You got a $250,000 rebate???? Wow, what dealership?

    :-)
  • My husband and I purchased a new 2004 mpv dx Sand Mica colour with convience package, your basic model with automatic locks on Sept. 30 2003. Last day for sale msp $27500 cad sale $24795 cad. We were told by our sales agent the price would not be lower. I really tried to get him to lower the price but he could't do it. His hands were tied. Looking back on it why I didn't think of course it would be lower as each day the car gets older. Hindsight can be cruel.
     
    The dealership gave us $1000 for our 92 Previa, really rough shape 214 km and tailgate was very rusted. We, like fools took the extras
    such as rust proofing, special shine and glass tint. Paid $29786.00 cad. On Oct. 3 there was an ad in the Toronto Star same van sale price $22995.00

    I was sick. Felt like I sold down the river. A sucker. At first our dealership said it wasn't the same van. It was. Said couldn't really do anything. The deal was done on Sept. 30, month end.

    My husband said you can make this right.You can do something. Spoke to Mazda Canada who suggested we write a letter which we were doing when we got a call 3 days later. The manager called offering us the extended warranty, 7 yrs 160 km.
    Value $1610.00 plus pst and gst 15%. We took it
    but I still feel stupid. Lesson learned.

    I thought I did my homework by reading up on these sites but I was looking at resale then decided why not go for brand new. I have never had a brand new car. Always had used. Now I feel used.

    But I will get over it. I do like the way the van rides although I have noticed the jerky feeling it has sometime from 2 to 3. Is that just because it is new? Only have 520 km. I had thought the gas mileage would be better, it seems like the fuel gauge moves down with each mile. Is tis beacuse it is new?

    After reading all the great deals some people got I will make sure I do better next time.
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