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Mazda MPV Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • danp1danp1 Posts: 3
    Thanks to Edmunds for all the useful information. Buying any vehicle is a challenge so all info helps.

    I purchased MPV LX today in MPLS area. Looking forward to lots of fun miles. Details: Silver, LX plus, 4-seasons, traction control/side airbags, roof rack, spoiler, paint care package (autoporter?).
    Price 20100 before tax/license (-) 2000.00 trade on 1993 accord with issues including some rust = 18100.00.
    Sales experience: ordinary. Sales guy used classic "What do I have to do to get you into a car tonight" line -I laughed-and made several trips into his managers office to present my counteroffers.
    I like Mazda even though the brand does not have the perceived cachet/resale value of honda/toyota. My 1999 626 at 70k basically flawless. Not flashy, but real solid performer with great options (moonroof,bose). That is my bottom line. Mazda builds solid vehicles, packages them with lots of options for $$$ less than Honda etc. In my experience: Honda is very pricy to buy and repair.

    Anyway, Not sure when my vehicle was built. Any special hints on what to check for at vehicle pick-up would be appreciated.
  • jaserbjaserb Posts: 858
    If it's an '04 make sure they've done the airbag recall and the transmission shift shock TSB, assuming you fall into the affected ranges. If you register on mazdausa.com you can enter the VIN and see any outstanding campaigns on your car. Very slick. There's tons more MPV info on a really great web site out there. I can't tell you the name, but if you punch MPV club into Google and hit "I'm feeling lucky" you might just get there.

    Great little vans - mine's an '04 speced out just like yours but without the roof rack or Traction Control / SAB package.

    I believe the build date is on the driver's door frame but I can't remember for sure.

    -Jason
  • Bought a 2004 ES with leather, DVD, rear heat, and a roof rack for $24,659 after the $4,250 rebate. I tried all the minivans and it came down to the MPV and the Honda Ody. Honda only felt a little bigger on the inside and a lot more clunky in the parking lot. MPV Reliability ratings are slightly higher than the Honda, safety ratings slightly lower. Ultimately it came down to price. The MPV with the rebate was about $6000 less than a comparably equiped Honda EX-L.
  • danp1danp1 Posts: 3
    JaserB, See my note dtd 120104. I bought a 2004 MPV. Driving for three days now. I will check the airbag and shift shock tsb-thanks for the info. First impressions: good ride and nice looks (I knew that!). Does your van give alot of wind noise from the windshield area at highway speed? DanP
  • danp1danp1 Posts: 3
    Jaserb, I bought a 2004. Thanks for the info-driving for two weeks now. No problems.
  • jaserbjaserb Posts: 858
    Ours is nearing 5k miles now and we really like it. A bit of wind noise but nothing unreasonable considering you're basically pushing a shoe box through the air at 70 MPH.

     

    Enjoy yours!

     

    -Jason
  • rgb2rgb2 Posts: 30
    Bought a leftover silver '04 ES with sunroof, 4-seasons, and roof rack for $22,520 ($25,018 out-the-door).

    The price includes $1000 Mazda financing incentive for getting a loan @6.9 for 60 months.
  • Instead of 0% financing, there is a $3,000 dealer incentive for MPVs until 2/28/05. Edmunds shows this, but other sites and even some Mazda salespeople aren't very aware.

    Couple that with a $1,000 incentive to finance with Mazda (can always refinance with another lender).

    Then work with a dealer that will sell at or close to invoice, and that takes off another $1,900 (goal) for even a base LX. For a more upscale MPV there is even more to work with. One around here sells about $200 above invoice and will even find a car on a non-competitor's lot to get the right car & color.

    Hard to say if these incentives will continue past Feb., but one salesperson said the selling season generally picks up in March. Any past history with incentives like these continuing?
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    I am purely speculating but I feel the MPV incentives may be pulled back once the Mazda5 arrives....

     

    With the big MPV incentives it can be had for the same price range of the new MZ5...I don't know if thats good or not.
  • For those of you in the know, what would be good prices for the following models (before any rebates are deducted):

     

    1. 2004 LX w/ LX Plus, side airbags & TC, DVD,

       roof rack, and wheel locks (MSRP: 26,770.00)

    2. 2004 LX w/ side airbags & TC (MSRP: 23,885.00)

    3. 2004 LX w/ LX Plus (MSRP: 24,990.00)

     

    4. 2005 LX w/ LX Plus, side airbags & TC,

       bumper, spoiler (MSRP: 25,645.00)

     

    Also, is anyone aware of a pet cargo net for the back area with the 3rd row folded down (to keep doggie from getting up into the 2nd row area)?

     

    Thanks...
  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    You'd think that Mazda wouldn't want to kill the sales they are getting on the MPV by stopping the incentives. If it was a new revised MPV, then sure. But, seeing as they do next to no advertising for the MPV, why kill the thing that makes 'em attractive for shoppers?

     

    Is there much of a waiting list for the MZ5 already?

     

    -Brian
  • Was your $18,100.00 price after rebates or before?
  • Was your price of $20,600 before rebates, or were those not available in October?
  • jaserbjaserb Posts: 858
    If you can get an MSRP $25k MPV for $19k after rebates and discounts, and the Mazda5 has a sticker of $19k, folks are going to expect bigger price breaks on the 5. It's a nice vehicle, but why wouldn't you take the bigger van with the V6 for roughly the same price? Now, if transaction prices for the MPV move towards $21k or so - and as expensive as Honda and Toyota have gotten I think there's room in that range - it's a lot easier to move 5s without dropping $3k on the hood. I think Rich is probably right on here.

     

    -Jason
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    When the new MPV comes out there will be a more clear distinction between the 5 and the MPV.Both in looks,size and price.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    The more I think about it the less I'm concerned about the two vehicles and incentives....

     

    we have a similar situation now...the MZ3 is selling without any incentives but the MZ6 has some incentives which brings it right into MZ3 price range. we have seen plenty of folks come in to buy the MZ3 and leave with a MZ6 based on their perception that the MZ6 is a better deal based on the discounts.

     

    I think the MZ5 will bring in folks who are product curious...I'm sure a certain percentage will see the big discounts on the MPV and feel bigger for the same price is better. The MZ5 may not be for everyone but getting new faces into the showroom will result in sales...mazda's are easy to like.
  • jaserbjaserb Posts: 858
    You can say that again. I got a flier in the mail good for $500 off any new Mazda - from Gerber, as strange as that seems. I keep trying to convince the CFO that between the college grad rebate, the Gerber certificate, and all the incentives that I really ought to let that poor lonely leftover '04 Mazdaspeed Miata follow me home. So far she isn't biting, but if I get a promotion...

     

    Rich, are there still any incentives on the '04s or has it gone to dealer cash?

     

    -Jason
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    in the Northeast the 2004 Miata's have $2000 dealer cash and $2000 customer cash, including the Speed.....For somebody in the market for a Miata, the incentives make things very attractive.
  • Assuming 2005 models, it all depends on whether you go with the Mazda financing (take off $1,000) and get the dealer incentive ($3,000 off). Other option is 0% financing, but if you run the numbers it isn't as good a deal as $3,000 off.

       These aside, your MPVs have about $1,900 - ~$2,500 invoice->MSRP mark-up. Use Edmunds invoice prices to negotiate from invoice -- perhaps a hundred or two over invoice *plus* the other incentives. I found having the invoice numbers in writing, including the options invoice pricing, tends to humble the dealers, particularly if competing dealers offer MPVs near invoice. I have seen new 2004 MPVs advertised in the Boston area for $7,000 off, but just having the "2004" label may lower the value of the car more than one thousand in depreciation right off the bat.

       Personally, I think the LX+ Package is an overpriced option at $1,500. A lot of MPVs have it, and it it is prerequisite for other options such as the Sport Package or the All Seasons Package. A fair amount of individual options can be dealer installed, but the dealer-install price is higher than the factory price. If they really want your business, dealers can also swap from other lots -- try searching MPV inventory on the Mazda site for cars outside the dealer's competitive area. Good luck!
  • When is the new MPV coming out? Is Mazda focusing on the Mazda5 for its 2006 (mini-)minivan darling, then waiting a year or so for a new MPV? Or are they releasing a new MPV in 2006 as well? Or is Mazda getting rid of the MPV altogether?

       Plenty of buzz about the Mazda5, but seems like virtually no information on the fate of the MPV.

       What Mazda does could seriously affect future resale values of current MPV buyers, like myself.
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