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Mazda MPV Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    "any reliability issues with this motor.."

    From what I have read, the Duratec 3.0 is a highly reliable engine
  • jaserbjaserb Posts: 858
    It is a very reliable motor. Also, unlike some Japanese motors there's no timing belt to replace, so the maintenance costs are lower as well.

    -Jason
  • Thanks for the information.

    Jimmy
  • Hey everybody, my wife and i have about $15,000 to spend and I see plenty of low mileage MPV's for sale all over California, usually being former short-term rentals/shuttles. I drove an MPV and LOVED the way it drove, thought the interior was sweet and generally wife and I adored it. Problem is, I'm not sure if the reliability is up to the old school Mazda I grew up with. So many Ford parts, Duratec motor/Ford Transmission, I read in Consumer Reports about bad trannys and other things. JD Power rated it really low in mechanical quality. How do you think the Mazda stands vs. Dodge Caravan, Kia Sedona? My dad has a 1996 Mazda MPV and that thing is bullet proof!! He's driven that thing over 110,000 and only replaced batteries and tires! Has the same brakes on it as from factory, everything! Timing belt had to be changed, obviously, but that rig is solid!! That being said, it had a REAL Mazda engine, not a Ford. What do you guys think?
  • Shopping for a 2005 MPV-ES and can't find any info on dealer incentives/marketing assistance/customer rebates. Told by dealer in Milwaukee there is $3000 rebate, $1000 Mazda credit cash, $1000 autoshow cash + $250 autoshow Mazda Credit cash( Autoshow just ended). Dealer quoted $248 over invoice which came to $7306 off MSRP. However a Chicago dealer offered $8000 off MSRP with $3000 rebate and $1000 Mazda credit cash.

    None of the sites I looked at on the net including this one has any info on 2005 Mazda incentives. Anyone have any ideas??
  • sparkertsparkert Posts: 5
    I really want an MVP!!! However, I also want to pay 15000, tops out the door price on any model from 2003 on. Am I insane? I have seen some listings on autotrader.com for 14500 and the like (pre taxes and fees) but figure there won't be much bargaining room since those prices are below the edmonds appraisals.

    Am I pie in the sky or do I have a chance? Has anyone recently bought a late-model used MVP and can describe their experience?

    Also - am I correct in assuming these vehicles are not as popular as other minivans (such as the much-lauded Hondas and Toyotas)?

    Sara
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Are you insane? Possibly. But, you can get any 2003 or 2004 for 15k out the door...and probably a used 2005...with money left over for some of that pie you were talking about.

    And yes, the MPV is more popular(with me) than the overhyped Hondas and Toyotas.
  • rgb2rgb2 Posts: 30
    You should be able to get a used 2003-2004 for this amount. However, I suggest you look into getting a leftover 2005 LX-SV, the base model, for about the same, maybe a grand more. The huge pluses (in my book) of that is :
    1) You are the only person who ever abused/maintained the car.
    2) You get 4 years/50K miles of worry-free motoring.(warranty+roadside assistance+loaner if any repairs)
    3) More reliable car since no changes 2004-2005, the production line worked out all the quirks.
  • sparkertsparkert Posts: 5
    So by 'leftover' you mean new? With virtually no miles? That is very interesting.

    We are seriously considering getting a broker (one with a very good reputation, although here I supposedly can't mention his name). He states that he can get us a price about 3000 lower than we would at a dealership - of course, his fees are quite high. He wants 900, plus 1-300 for auction fees. I wonder if he means 3000 less than asking, or 3000 less than what I would get after using mediocre bargaining techniques.

    I don't know if I can get as good a deal at a dealership if we don't use him, but I'm not sure if its such a good idea when you factor in his substantial fees. Will we be paying mainly for convenience?

    Has anyone else used a broker? Was it worth it?

    sparkert
  • I have been debating which to purchase.
    2000 Mazda MPV, 4 door, ES, Leather - 102,000 for $6900
    or
    2000 Toyota Sienna, 4 door, CE, Velour - 50,000 for $10,880

    I have read that the main problems with the MPV is the horse power, hard shifting and road noise.
    The Toyota is plagued with --- well, not much.
    Are the MPV issues worth the $4000 difference?
    Thanks in advance - - :confuse:
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,692
    IMO, just the mileage difference would be worth $4K.. Throw the Mazda vs. Toyota thing in there, and the Sienna wins hands down... even with the lower trim level..

    102K vs. 50K? No contest..

    MODERATOR
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  • subearusubearu Posts: 3,613
    The '00 MPV had a 2.5L V6 which produced somewhere in the neighborhood of 160hp or so. '02+ gets the 3.0L V6 with 200hp.

    Mileage is one thing. Which do you feel more comfortable in? Have you driven both in similar drives?

    -Brian
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    he states he can get us a price about 3000 lower...He want $900,plus 1-300 for auction fees.

    He probably means he can get it for $3,000 less...assuming you are a horrible negotiator and know nothing about buying cars. There is a low demand for MPV's...that is why they have high discounts/rebates.

    I would save my money and pass on the broker. Read these boards on Edmunds (MPV prices paid, Purchasing Strategies etc) Find a van you like and write back here...we'll help you out on the price. You should be able to get rock bottom price on a MPV whether you use a broker or not. I would be cautious as well about buying a vehicle at auction.
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Agree with kyfdx, jade. If you have narrowed it down between these two vans, I would take the 50k Sienna. The 100k mile marker is usually the one where parts "can" start to wear out.
  • rgb2rgb2 Posts: 30
    Also agree that broker is not worth it in the particular case of MPV.

    Check out Mazda USA website. You can search for the new car dealer inventory in your area (and you can specify 2005 model!). Then contact them over the web or fax.

    FYI, I got my leftover '04 MPV ES in Jan of '05 for over $8K under MSRP with no stress in negotiations.
  • lpraszlprasz Posts: 1
    I own a 2000 MPV ES 4-door Leather. I bought it brand new in Oct 1999. ( it has 82k right now)I have had nothing but problems with it. I'd like to be clear that I am a soccer mom who takes excellent care of her vehicle. Every oil change on time at the dealer. Every recommended maintenance from the manual done on time at the dealer. It looks like new. It runs like something else. I needed a new transmission at 18k. Then my front suspension Rod snapped at 66K. My power windows went out at 65K. New oil pan at 75K. I needed new plugs and wires at 51K. 2 years later, my car needs them AGAIN. At this very moment, my car is at the dealer with a cracked radiator, leaking water pump, leaking wide pipe, all which have to be replaced. That is in addition to the new plugs and wires. Total bill ready for me this afternoon...$2700. That doesn't include the regular maintenance I am on my 3rd set of brakes and tires. Buy the Toyota!!!!!
  • Mazda stopped posting them at the end of February. At that time they were $3000 + $1000 for financing through MAC. Around here (Louisville, Ky) two of the three dealers have offered $8000 off MSRP as well. The MPV seems to be a great value. I am guessing it won't be to long before the '06 go $7 to $8k off MSRP as it is the last model year for the MPV in the US. Mazda Knoxville already has them at 6.5k off. My only hesitation with the MPV is the recent poor rating in side impact crash testing.
  • rgb2rgb2 Posts: 30
    While the lack of airbags for 2nd and 3rd rows is certainly regrettable, it's not as much of a problem as it seems.
    1) NHTSA gave MPV 5 stars.
    2) Looking closely at the IIHS results for side impact crash testing, where MPV got POOR rating for side impact, they tested LX model without front seat side airbags. That front seat was the one that got poor results, the 2nd row actually got a G,G,A for head,torso, pelvis respectively. Had they tested a model with 1st row side airbags, the overall results would've been much better, IMHO.
  • gat135gat135 Posts: 7
    Just purchased the MPV and wanted to say thanks to all the informative postings.
    Purchased a left over 2005 MPV LX Plus with moonroof, which I found on the Mazdausa inventory search. The MSRP was $27,590 and paid $19,125 with Mazda finance to get full rebate. Negotiated over the phone but still the dealer wanted to do one more round of negotiations when I went in to sign the paperwork. Here are some tips.
    Negotiate price of vehicle first, all your comparative pricing is on the web.
    Next negotiate final "out the door price". This includes all fees such as tax, title, documentation fees and anything else the dealer can dream up.
    Next get it in writing, have it e-mail/fax. I didn't have this so when I went in they wanted to negotiate again, after much time, they got an additional $250 from a starting point of $1,100 which they claim was a misunderstanding regarding the "out the door price" and the fees that it included. Hope this helps and good luck to all. Final word, you can't always get the bottom line price but you can try. :)
  • diaahilldiaahill Posts: 1
    Was the $19,125 you paid out the door?
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