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Chrysler Voyager/Dodge Caravan Prices Paid and Buying Experience 2003-2007

steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,421
edited April 1 in Chrysler
Please relate your buying experience here. Town & Country owners welcome too!

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  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    I bought my last two vans from Hayes Chrysler in Lawrenceville, GA (Gwinnett County, northeast metro Atlanta) and had two very good experiences. In 2001, we bought a new base Chrysler Voyager in dark green with the upgraded V6, power win/locks/mirr, CD and dark windows. Their selling price was about $600 higher than the Norcross, GA Carmax, but Hayes gave us $2500 more for our trade, a 1997 Hyundai Sonata GLS with V6. Very courteous and pleasant to work with. In April of this year, we wanted an update. I did not want a T&C as the size of the Voyager was perfect for the type of driving we do here in Atlanta. Plus, we only take one big trip a year, so the added space would just be wasted the other 51 weeks of the year. So, taking advantage of the great offers through Chrysler Financial, we went back to Hayes and traded for a white 2003 Chrysler Voyager LX with the quad captain's chairs and split folding rear bench, ABS, keyless and roof rack--all things my 2001 did not have. Our payment actually went down even though the van's price tag was higher! Again, great service and would definitely recommend them. My mother-in-law was in the market for something new last year and she also bought from Hayes due to our good experience.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,421
    "The price for one popular version of the Dodge Grand Caravan minivan is up $1,170; other versions are up $405. The incentive has increased $666. Chrysler's destination charge went up $55."

    As auto incentives head higher, so do prices

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  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    Sounds like the incentives increased by more than the price hikes on most of the vans--so consumers will still come out ahead. Prices on automobiles have to go up over time. New cars can't cost $1500 forever!
  • I posted this in another thread, but my wife and I took delivery on a T&C Limited this evening for close to 4K under sticker, minus another 4500 in incentives. Great experience, great dealer. Got financed at 3.9% to boot!
  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    Got a letter today saying the A/C compressor of my 2003 Voyager LX was now covered for 7 years or 70k mi, whichever comes first. It appears that there was a problem with the lubrication on some of these, so they are covering all of them for an extended length to take care of problems we may come across in the future. I think that's pretty good pro active customer service.
  • With the 2005 and the stow and go on dealer lots the incentives on the 2004 models are high. $2000 cash back plus 0% financing on the Caravan STX short wheel base AND an additional $1000 on your trade-in. Some dealers are also giving dealer discounts in addition to the manufacturers. I got a price of $18590 (includes rebates) plus tax tags and destination charges. Trying to get one for 17,200 plus tax/tags. Wondering is it possible to get a new van for under $20,000 out the door that isn't a KIA SEDONA?
  • I just answered my own question. We got a 2004 Caravan SXT for $20,500 out the door. So we did almost get it for 20,000. It was the last one on the lot. It had the popular equipment pkg, quad seating, cd player, roof rack, alloy wheels and power drivers seat. The other van we got a price of 18,590 only had a roof rack as the options in it. We got this much nicer one for 18,890 plus tax and fees for 20,500. We are happy and love the silver color too. Waiting an extra month got us a much better deal and a nicer van too.
  • jtheronjtheron Posts: 24
    congrats and best to you
  • pdodson20pdodson20 Posts: 2
    Wife and I purchased a loaded SXT tonight for $11000 of sticker. MSRP'd at 35, got it for 24 with no trade. Wife and I were not really looking for a loaded van but we got a really nice van for basically the price range we were shooting for. I should state that it was an end of the month last hour deal.
  • russlarussla Posts: 74
    I'm looking at DGC right now, and all the dealers are offering 6k in dealer cash to reduce the invoice price, I would love to get a DGC for 11k off sticker but don't know where the discount are from.

    sticker ~35k
    invoice ~32k (just over)
    DC Emp price ~31k
    Dealer emp price ~32K (just under)
    holdback 1K

    the only way I figure these sums add up is if the dealer sold it at DC emp price 31k less the dealer cash of 6k, and gave away all the hold back of 1K for a total of 24k.

    Is this something that very many dealers would/could do? I think it's a great deal, but in my area, I'm finding a hard bottom around 26k

    usually advert at 8k under MSRP ~(27k)
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,421
    Any recent buyers in Michigan feel free to reply:

    A newspaper reporter would like to talk with recent minivan buyers who live in Michigan. Please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com or swebster@freepress.com with your daytime phone number by Thursday, June 17, 2004. Thanks,

    Jeannine Fallon, PR Director
    Edmunds.com

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  • krash24krash24 Posts: 2
    We just bought a 2005 SXT with a Power Liftgate as the only option (The base STX is loaded with options, such as 3-zone A/C, roof rack, 2 power side doors, keyless entry, garage door opener, 2 row Stow-n-go, and much more). The window sticker has a base of $26,315 plus $400 for the power liftgate and $680 for destination for a total of $27,395 on the sticker. Edmunds says the sticker should be $27,585, I'm not sure why there is a difference. We negotiated to $25,132. There is a $1000 cash rebate, a $1000 trade-in rebate (we did have a trade), and a $1000 rebate if you finance with Chrysler Financial for a total of $3000 in rebates. Edmunds says my trade is worth about $1700 and they gave me $1750. That brought us to $20,382. Add in $1457.01 for taxes, a $53.52 Document Fee, and $80 for title and transfer, and we financed $21972.53 total with no cash out of pocket. We haven't had it a week yet, but we love it. We couldn't find an SE with the options we required (3-zone a/c, roof rack, and 2nd row bucket seats) that didn't have more options that brought it near the SXT price range. And the SE's don't have stow&go (unless you get the SE PLUS which is an expensive option). So, for us, the SXT was the way to go, and we love the power liftgate (even though we didn't need/want it).
  • I just purchased and 05 GC SXT with the following options: Linen Gold Paint, Premium Group, Center Console, Entertainment System, 6 disc cd/dvd. I did not get the leather as we were dissapointed in the quality of the leather and prefered the cloth. The MSRP was 30,645. Invoice was $28,480 (incl "advertising" for MD) We paid 27,800 plus an additional $3000 in rebates. (1000 cash back, 1000 financing through Chrysler cash back, 1000 cash back for trade). I "traded" in a worthless shell of an old pickup truck that our company had for which they gave me $1 to get the $1000 trade rebate. Total Price paid before Title, Tax, and Tag was 24,800.
    It definitely pays to shop around and be willing to walk out. I had 9 dealers tell me that it was impossible to sell me the vehicle for that price since it was well below invoice.
    I also didn't find out about the trade "rebate" until another dealer revealed it to me. No wonder all the dealers were pushing me for a trade because they could make that 1000 instead of me if I didn't ask for it.
    It's a beautiful car (as far as minivans go) and we are excited about it.
  • pompedopompedo Posts: 2
    I see you mentioned 3 rebates, cash , financing and trade-in. Are they still offering all 3? Need a new van this month and am looking at a DGC SE - Any thoughts?
    Thanks
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,421
    "Meanwhile, minivans have gained the most market share, climbing from 6.8 percent to 7.7 percent, while their average incentives decreased from $2,807 to $2,678."

    NBC4 TV

    Here's our Incentives and Rebates link.

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  • andrelaplumeandrelaplume Posts: 934
    what is a good price for a left over 04 model. Likely the Sport model Dodge which appears popular and I don't see any options I'd add.
  • hospsafehospsafe Posts: 4
    Last weekend the wife wanted to test drive a Pacifica and a Town & Country. (Central Florida Chrysler, Jeep Dodge) Not enough room in the Pacifica. Also had looked at the Quest. Found the one we wanted but explained to the salesman that we couldn't buy that day because the vehicle had to go through the business. However, I did mention that I wanted a proposal that I could take to my boss in the morning. He wanted me to sign a statement saying" that if "we agreed on a price today, I would buy the car." I refused and explained to him and two other individuals why I couldn't sign it. Finally, the 3rd salesman understood my situation and gave me some numbers that were workable. The sticker on the car was $33,130. This included the DVD, leather, power everything. They gave me $2000 off plus a check for over $2400 to get me out of my current lease on a Beetle. They were offering $5000 off on all T&C's. Walked out the following morning with a lease payment of $550 including tax for 36 months. I think it was a fair deal. Edmunds said $515 without the $2400 check. However, I will tell that the dealership did not like it when I brought out the Finance Page from Edmunds. The second salesman I talked to on Sunday was very agitated and tried to dispute every number on it. He couldn't. Finally it got to the point where he said that Edmunds is a consumer web site and mumbled something under his breath. I said, yes it is and what's wrong with that? There was no response. This was the first time, certainly not the last time, I have used Edmunds. Thank you Edmunds. The look on the one salesman face was worth all of the research. Thank you Central Florida Chrysler Jeep Dodge for a wonderful car.
  • dwadedwade Posts: 3
    Details on the transaction to follow but first the buyer profile.
    Gone are the days where I need to barter the $9 bucks for valve stems on the sticker. Being middle aged with kids and employed I dont have the need to pound a car dealer, yet, I did use an Edmunds TMV to get to my target. Here it is....
    7/29/04 transaction - Autoway Dodge Clearwater , Florida.
    2005 Grand Caravan SXT Base $26505
    add Leather Pkg $2930
    add rear DVD video $1150
    add 6 disc DVD/CD $555
    add destination $680
    Total MSRP $31820

    Deal
    Deduct Discount $2380
    MFG Rebate $1000
    Financing Rebate $1000
    Trade (95 Montero) $2500

    Net before TTT $24940
    Out The Door $27300

    My target was $27000 OTD, they stayed at $28300 for about 20 minutes, then added 500 on trade in value, and we decided to finance $5000 of the Van to get the $1000 Financing Rebate, after 6 months I can pay it off with a Home Equity Line which is how we paid the balance. Dealer basically gave me the options for free and increased my trade by $1000....the trade wont make them money. They had a $500 Dealer handling Fee, which I balked then ok'd. It was smooth, I got more options than I wanted and still stayed on target. The salesman actually thanked me for having my Edmunds TMV with a target for this exact vehicle.
    Moral of the story is, these guys will treat you better if you have made up your mind on style, color and options and ask them to pull from Inventory prior to the deal. Research dealer inventory on the WWW prior to contact. If they dont have it start somewhere else. They hate waisting time just like us. We were off the lot in less than 2 hours start to finish.
    Good luck.
  • I had promised to post my price paid in an earlier posting in satisfaction category - so here it is. This car was purchased 6/28/04.

    2005 Dodge GC SXT (stow & go) with split rear seats, dual auto side doors and electronic lift gate:

    Vehicle price; $25,640.00
    Cash price - $27,808.08 (with NYC 8.5% tax)
    Rebate - $ 2,300.00

    Total paid - $25, 508.08

    I had no trade in. Rebate for June was $1300. I financed for 36 months @ 3.9% to get $1000 off. It was slightly cheaper than the 0% financing without the $1000 cash back. I like the van. Hope this info helps others do better than I did!
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    I haven't got into details with him as he went on vacation just after buying it, but a coworker of mine just bought a 2005 GC with Stow and Go seating and paid less than $20K (no trade in). I assume this is the price before tax title and license transfer. This sure sounds like a good deal, even assuming it is an SE Plus with no additional options, which has an MSRP of $25180.
  • jvcnjvcn Posts: 50
    Just got a new 2005 TC Touring model with AFF package (stow go, pwd drs, etc) plus CD/DVD, rear video and linen gold paint. List almost $30,000. Final price includes everything except state taxes $24,589. This includes $5000 financed for 60 months at 5.59 % but i plan to pay it all off without penalty in 3 months (min time for pay-off). The financing was just to get the $1000 back. So cash of 19,589.
  • zgdzgd Posts: 3
    I got my 2005 T&C Touring (a great car) at a dealership in Rochester, MI. I just want to share my experience.
    I set a price goal to get 2-yr lease, the sales rep and the manager both worked out a deal that was about $100 over my goal. I signed the deal that included (1) monthly payment with tax, license plate included; (2) down. Before I signed, I asked the manager while the sales stood by “Do I have to pay anything else?” He said, pointing to the paper, “No. That’s all you need to pay.”
    They did not have the car I wanted when the deal was signed. Two days after, I got the delivery and signed all the papers. When I reviewed the papers in the night, I found that they inserted another item, $300 turn-in fee, not seen in the original signed deal. The sales intentionally skipped it when I signed the final papers. The day after, I asked them to reverse that. They would not.
    There were a few “first” with this dealership:
    1) The first time I bought a car without giving me the brochure of the car;
    2) The first time I bought a car with only half tankful of gas, although they filled her up when I returned to pick up the plate;
    3) The first time I heard that using credit card to make down payment was against MI state law;
    4) The first time I needed to return to get the temporary license extended.
  • We are looking at a 2004 Grand Caravan SXT Anniversary Edition (leather, DVD, power doors/liftgate) with 7500 miles on it. Do you think 20,000 is a good price for this? Thanks!!
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    $15,000 for a nicely equipped T&C LX with less than 27,000 actual miles. First owner got a DaimlerChrysler 7 year/75,000 mile extended warranty that was transferred to me in addition to the 7 year/100,000 mile Factory Powertrain Warranty.
         This nice van had an MSRP of about $30,000 when new.
  • jtheronjtheron Posts: 24
    edges_wife

    we bought a new 2004 T&C touring platinum, which is the T&C version of what you are looking at, we paid $24,000 for it back in Feb 2004, it listed for around $36,000, beautiful van

    so for 7500 miles you save $4,000 on buying used, thats 53 cents per mile for the first 7500 miles

    when we looked for our van the dealer had a "demonstrator" 2004 T&C limited with something like 30,000 miles on it and they were only offering 15 cents per mile for the miles or $4,500 off, I considered it to be a used van that cost the dealer 15 cents per mile to drive, I wish I could drive a new car every 6 or 12 months and have it cost me only 15 cents per mile

    not sure of whats a good deal on a used van or not
    but the "discount" you are getting for the mileage of 53 cents per mile is much better than the 15 cents per mile that we we offered from a dealer

    good luck, we really like our van, nicest car/van/truck we have ever owned
  • janb2janb2 Posts: 2
    We walked out of negotiations today on an SXT that had almost everything..No leather, no navigation system, however it did have the sideair bags which is what I want but that van is located at a different dealer. It also had the DVD and CD 6 disc. The MSRP is $30880. They offered us $28880. We said no and left. The salesman actually came out into the parking lot and opened my door and said "wait 2 minutes, we're making a phone call"...They came back with $25995 + $250 = $26245. We said no. I was insulted that they wanted to charge $250 to "go get the van." Do you agree this $26245 is too high? I was thinking around $23K is what I would pay. The current rebate they told us about is $2000 (which brought it to the $28880) and its a 0% 60 month finance.

      

    Even though the lot had many 'loaded' SXTs, not one of them had the side air bags. They could only find one SXT in the area that had that option. I would think it would be a popular option! Is there something about them I should know? My husband was eyeing the loaded SXT with leather & nav system but I said no, I want one with the side airbags, who wouldn't? He thinks I'm being difficult now :)
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Since I have never met a person injured in a side impact collision, the side airbags are not a very high priority for me.

         If side air bags are important, buy the Odyssey which has side air bags standard on every 2005 model beginning with the LX which has MSRP of $25,510. Honda dealers are giving nice discounts of up to $3,000 on new 2005 Odysseys.

         I like my used 2002 Chrysler T&C LX but the driver's seat is uncomfortable whereas all Odyssey driver's seats are comfortable. The original owner of my 2002 T&C LX got a nice discount when it was new and paid just under $24,000 for it.

         DaimlerChrysler lowered their MSRP for 2005 so the vans cost about the same but with a lower discount than in earlier years.
  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    Not too long ago I test drove a 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT back to back with a 2005 Odyssey LX and Honda really is much nicer. Plus, as he said, the Honda was marked down $2000 off MSRP. Plus, I am not a Honda person saying this. I had a 1993 Dodge, a 2001 Chrysler and currently have a 2003 Chrysler. The 2005 Dodge could not match the ride found in my 2003 Chrysler--and the seats were not as good, either--IMO. The Odyssey LX does not give you power sliding doors, alloy wheels, the roof rack or the lazy susan under the second row; but you get the same engine, rear air, sliding door roll down windows, traction control and most of the mechanical goodies found on the EX models. Check it out.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    Just bought the 2005 DGC SXT. List price was $28,459. Has the three power doors, tinted windows, security system, CD/Cassette with 6 speakers, with radio controls on steering wheel,Stow n Go seating, eight way power drivers seat, between the seat storage bin, above temp,direction, mpg,computer, extended warrantee, etc. With discount,$25,054 and O% financing. They would knock off another $1,500.00 if I would have taken Chrysler's 6.? financing. Decided to take the zero percent instead. Don't think it was as good a deal as most got on here, but I can't complain to much. I was about $700.00 under on my trade.

     

    Really love the van. It's very quiet and smooth riding. Really love the storage space with the stow n go seats up. Nothing has to lay on the floor or seats now, it can be all hidden away.

     

    I stow one middle seat and that gives the dog plenty of room to lay down and makes it easy to get my grand kids in and out of the van fast.
  • uga91uga91 Metro AtlantaPosts: 1,065
    Stow and Go is cetainly a wonderful feature and it provdes tons of useful storage opportunities. I think the problem lies with those of us with previous generation DC vans that have more comfortable seats and an even smoother ride.
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