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Lexus LS 400/LS 430 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Yes but my BMW lease is up in 4.5 months and with that car and 2 golf carts taking up the garage, I will just have to wait.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    See post #162 on this thread. 12.7% off list. No trade.
    Modern luxury plus smart key for $738 per month(including 6% tax) leased for 3 years, 36,000 miles.
  • RGSW:

    you don't need Rainex on the LS430...A similar treatment is already IN the glass.
  • famwaldfamwald Posts: 114
    I could tell a difference after I put Rain-X on our new '05 LS windshield, after driving it for 6 weeks without. I also put it on the rear window.

    I've used it for 15+ years on cars and not had a problem with it. The glass has to be really clean before applying it. It does wear off with time. My car is garaged 95% of the time, so one coat lasts a long time.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,851
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  • Thanks to this site and the potential price differentials between the LS430 and GS300, I have switched buying to focus on the LS430.. I went to Lexus to BUY a GS300... It did not take long to discover that exactly what was discussed on this board was taking place.. At this point in time the LS430 is certainly the best 'buyable' Lexus value compared with the GS300.
    Again, thanks to this excellent discusssion group for getting my head turned from just focusing on the GS series..
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    You can get a comparably equipped LS 430 several thousand dollars cheaper than a GS 430 right now because the Lexus dealers are selling the GS 430 at MSRP.
  • 00boxsters00boxsters Posts: 202
    I had a deposit on a GS300 George. It was that I did not fit comfortably in the GS300/rwd and that was notwithstanding the drivers footwell hump from the AWD which was not yet available to test drive.

    The better value and extra bells/whistles were just a bonus to the cavernous room inside and the trunk.

    I keep saying it but how can the Lexus website say there is more headroom in the 2006GS than the 2005LS?!!!
  • mitch5mitch5 Posts: 5
    Wow this chat line is a great tool. I'm about to purchase an LS430 from the dealer and I'm wondering if other Texas purchasers, preferably Dallas area, are actually getting discounts off of MSRP of 10-11% as I've been reading. Texan's are car crazy and I'm concerned that the discounts may not be as large here. Thanks for the input!
  • 00boxsters00boxsters Posts: 202
    good luck tex. perhaps you ought to go into the dealership with the pretext of loving to get a 2006 GS. Sit in the car and complain about the lack of headroom and then ask to sit in a nearby LS. Tell them you would settle for the LS -with an 11% discount of course;)!
  • fun1fun1 Posts: 18
    Hi gteach,

    I am looking to Lease the '05 LS430 w/ UL package-3 yr lease with 16-17k miles per yr(prepay for extra miles). I already own '02 LS430(it has 61,000 miles). I will be trying to negotiate a lease price for the vehicle. I am getting it with PCS(pre collission system) etc. Could you suggest what would be good price. I am in DC area, planning on buying from Lexus of Rockville
  • Mitch:

    I don't think TEXAS is a good place to buy an LS..They do very little Discounting compared to the Mid-west and California...

    My state is like Texas (Washington) The Wife and I ended up buying our car in California, Flew Down and drove it back..Saved $4,000 ...Had a nice two week vacation on the $4,000.
  • mitch5mitch5 Posts: 5
    Thanks Michael
    Sounds like a quick trip to Kansas might payoff.
  • cove148cove148 Posts: 117
    "Message #6616
    As the end of Nov30 I paid only $52988 for 2005LS430 with must have option sticker price $59144 Anybody like to buy one call Park Place Lexus in Grapevine Tx Tel.817 4163100"

    Houston dealers won't work with you. Dallas dealers will. The price in the above post is still fairly accurate.
  • mitch5mitch5 Posts: 5
    Great, thanks for the response. How dificult was it to accomplish your discount? End of month trick or anything else used?
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    Hey fun1...

    I leased a 430 with the modern lux package -- you're looking at the top of the line model with all of the toys.

    2 major items will affect your deal -- the availability of UL's with pre-collision in your area and the competition (or lack of) between Lexus dealers in the D.C. area.

    Where I'm at (South Florida) we've got 5 Lexus dealerships within an hour's drive of each other and the competition for your business is FIERCE at times.

    To determine the lowest possible CAP cost for my deal I subscribed to the Consumer Reports Car Pricing Service. Edmunds free TMV calculation is useful but not as thorough as the the CR one. Once I had CR's "wholesale value" (MSRP minus incentives, holdback, etc) I went to Carman ("Lease questions ask here" forum) on this site to get the latest sign-and-drive lease rates and residual values on the car I wanted. With that info I was able to determine a low-end lease price.

    Then I just got plain lucky. I found a salesman and a dealer that had the car with the specs I wanted AND they needed to unload a car at the end of the month to meet a bonus quota. Not only did his price come in significantly below my own estimates, he DROVE the car to my house to do the sales presentation and we signed the deal on my dining room table. I NEVER stepped foot in the dealership!

    If D.C. doesn't have a competitive market and the UL's with pre-collision are in tight supply over there you just might be at the mercy of the dealership.

    Bottom line, I'd get the "wholesale" cap cost from the CR pricing service, get the lease rates and residuals from Carman, and then send your nearest dealer an email stating that you received an offer from another dealership for the price you've come up with. Offer to lease the car TODAY if they can beat the current "offer" you have on the table. If they have the car and they are willing to deal -- you'll get the car.

    Also, go to the main Lexus site and calculate your lease price using their calculator tool. This will give you a HIGH-END, expensive lease price that you can use to know if you're being gouged on a lease offer. The good thing with the Lexus lease tool is that they have the current lease rates built into the calculator AND you can fiddle with the car's price to see how your payment changes. Still though, I've found that the payments given on the Lexus site are on the high side and are of value only as a high-range estimate.

    Good luck!! Let us know what happens!!
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I have been to the Lexus site and used their lease-calculating tool. It is an effective upper-limit.
    I will be "hitting" many of those Florida dealers in July.
    Good info. gteach26!
  • fun1fun1 Posts: 18
    Thanks a bunch Gteach26, i went by the dealership today and picked blk on blk color. The PCS or pre-collision system in ULs' is only available as mfg install. Its 3 1/2 months for delivery. I am eager to get the new car(avoiding to put more miles on my existing 02 UL LS430). So planning on buying by Wed 3/23. So will pass up on PCS system. I will look into the rest of the info you provoded to get the best possible lease pricing. Thanks so much for your comprehensive response. will let you know about the deal. Wish me luck
  • fun1fun1 Posts: 18
    Hi Gteach, thanks for you assitance. I bought my new '05 LS 430 UL w/ XM radio and remote access plus remote engine start. Black exterior with blk interior. Leased for $67,000. 36 month term. Payments @ $1,335 per mo. Prepaid mileage at 17,500 per yr. I have Blue tooth capable Blackberry(7100) which i am hopeful will sync with the communication system. A bit concerned about having private conversation? Do you have experience with this?
  • dtestadtesta Posts: 12
    Wow, you got remote start? My dealer said the shop they work with can't figure it out. The SmartAccess is the problem for them. Can you tell me anything about your remote start system? You bought it form Lexus of Rockville, Md, right? Do you happen to know the name of the installation shop they worked with?

    Thanks.
  • cove148cove148 Posts: 117
    Remote start.. Very popular add on item at your Toyota dealer. Suggest checking with your nearest one.
  • gteach26gteach26 Posts: 576
    Congrats fun1!!!

    You got the top of the line of one of the best cars on the planet -- you just can't go wrong. You payments blow my lease budget out of the water though -- you could almost get two modern lux's for the price of an ultra!! But hey -- you got the best of the best with all of the toys, PLUS a ton of miles prepaid upfront -- ENJOY!!

    As to bluetooth and private conversations -- I always assume that ANY conversation that leaves my lips nowadays on ANY PHONE is not private. Ditto with email. If I want something to stay private it stays in my head! Luckily though, I don't have many "top secret" topics I can't blab about on my cell phone. In any case, I think bluetooth connections are secure, but I'd assume that anyone who really WANTS to eavesdrop on your phone calls will find a way to do it regardless!! Just like home security systems... no matter how much you spend on them or how advanced they are, if someone REALLY wants in -- they'll get in.

    Anyhow...Good luck... congrats.... and HAVE FUN!!! See you over in the LS430 discussion forum!
  • famwaldfamwald Posts: 114
    I always assume that ANY conversation ..... nowadays on ANY PHONE is not private ..... I'd assume that anyone who really WANTS to eavesdrop on your phone calls will find a way to do it regardless!!

    FWIW, I saw something a few weeks ago on the national network news about some young fellows who rigged up a device that looked like a small satellite dish connected to their electronic equipment, and they were picking up every cell phone call within a few hundred yards. The point of the story was that cell phone calls are not necessarily "private."
  • dtestadtesta Posts: 12
    My Lexus dealer installs remote starters. They just can't figure it out for cars with SmartAccess. Since Fun1 got a UL, his car has SmartAccess. So how'd they do it?

    Just to add to the confusion- Fun1 said he was shopping at Lexus of Rockville. I contacted their service department. They said they would never install any aftermarket equipment on a car for fear of voiding the customer's warranty. Hmmm.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Decided to see if there were positive correlations in Florida for Elite of Lexus status vs. satisfactory ratings with the Florida Better Business Bureau.
    I was shocked to find that one of the dealers I was thinking of negotiating with this summer has Elite Status but also has a negative rating with the Florida BBB. This dealer has refused to answer the BBB's inquiries regarding customer complaints.
    I intend to call Lexus headquarters Monday morning to inquire about this.
    Be careful out there!
    Regards,
    hpowders
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,851
    Let's talk about non-pricing issues over in our Lexus LS Owners Club.

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,851
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  • fun1fun1 Posts: 18
    Hi Gteach26,

    You will be happy to hear that i followed your advice to the T. Got the pricing from CR. Then got dealer quotes over the net locally, then went in for the purchase. Excellent suggestions. Was well informed about MSRP and Invoice and the rest. Thanks again.

    I took delivery of my new smelling, shimmering blk on blk '05 LS 430 w/ UL on March 31. Absolutely love it. Drives like a charm. The XM radio is fab. My salesman is having the valet key converted to remote engine start key with a chip in it--for the main key to perform the same function they have to be simultaneously computer/chip coded or something like that. It can be done in 1/2 a day. They have thrown in LoJact theft detterent system, also a 5 year dink/dent removal coverage(by an external vendor) for encore customer and gave me favorable money factor. It is quite enjoyable to drive the car around w/o the key inserted. The Valet key works great. Their is more detail and quicker response on the Nav system. The headlamp is really bright. Its quite a head turner, Blk on Blk configuration. Looks sassy. Now if i can only sell me '02 LS 430 UL for a reasonable price i would be a happy camper. Yes the monthly lease is a bit higher then what i was paying for my old cars financing. But i have a business that will make these payments (CPA firm)
  • tlmmkm1tlmmkm1 Posts: 1
    fun1-I am looking for a 02 or 03 LS 430 UL if you are selling yours---our local dealer (Savannah) is always 5-10k higher than those in FL but have yet to find the "right" one. if interested, i will post email address. thanks.
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