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Chevy Trailblazer/GMC Envoy/Olds Bravada Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi everyone. Please use the following discussion to post any questions that you have about leasing a Chevrolet Trailblazer. Thanks.

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  • gf2020gf2020 North of BostonPosts: 45
    Does anyone know what the factory incentives are for remaining, in-stock 2005 Envoy XLs or Trailblazer EXTs?

    The gmbuypower.com web site does not show any incentives, but I don't believe that is correct.

    Alternatively, does anyone recall what the last rebate GM offered during calendar 2005 was?

    Thanks!
  • What are the current residuals and money factor for a 2006 Trailblazer and Trailblazer EXT for 24 months and 36 months with 15,000 per year.
    Thanks
    Mike
  • Hi Mike. If you were to lease a 2006 Chevrolet Trailblazer or Trailblazer EXT (their lease programs are the same) through GMAC right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its base lease rate and residual value should be 4.9% and 66%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease should be 4.9% and 57%. As you can see, GMAC publishes lease rates instead of money factors for the vehicles that it leases. You can convert its published lease rates into approximate money factor equivalents by dividing them by 2400.

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  • morey000morey000 Posts: 320
    I've just got some 'internet' bids for a '06 Envoy Denali. MSRP around $38.5K. Two dealers are offering a similar discount. $500 above Invoice, minus the $1K factory rebate.

    I know I can do better- but I just don't know how much.
    The value of this vehicle will be based on whether redesign of the Envoy/TB is going to exist this fall as an '07, or next as an '08?)
  • lastarlastar Posts: 30
    Just got a new 2006 TB for $1500 under invoice. Couldn't pass it up.
  • Are these rates dependent on ones location (I live in Minnesota)? Using the figures you provided, I get a much higher monthly payment when using the lease payment calculator on the GMAC financing website, even when discounting the MSRP. Have the rates changed? Thanks!
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi mhagaman. I don't believe that the Chevrolet Trailblazer's lease program currently varies by region, but I'll look into it just to make sure. I don't think that they've changed either. If you provide me with the MSRP and selling price of the truck that you are interested in, I'd be happy to estimate what your lease payment should be for you. We can then compare the number that I come up with to the results of GMAC's lease calculator.

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  • gmhellmangmhellman Posts: 121
    My wife and I visited the local dealer today to test drive and get numbers on a lease of a 2006 Trailblazer with the cd, on star for one year, side curtain airbags, dual climate control, for approx. 28,000 and change. I was not able to get a monthly lease figure due to the finance manager not being present to "pound out the numbers". My wife and I were hoping to be able to lease around 315 a month, with nothing down and rolling the 3,000 residual on my Bonneville into the loan. I personally don't think it is possible, but I can always hope. Is there anyone out there who knows of a cheaper price or special rebates on base LS Trailblazers?

    Greg Hellman
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi Greg. The market for the Chevrolet Trailblazer is pretty soft right now. You shouldn't have much trouble getting one for dealer invoice, or perhaps a few hundred less. Check out the following discussion for additional feedback on how much you should pay for this truck right now: "Chevy Trailblazer/GMC Envoy/Olds Bravada: Prices Paid & Buying Experience". I would be happy to estimate what your monthly lease payment would be on this truck right now, but in order for me to do so I need to know its full MSRP. Let me know and I'll "pound out the numbers for you" ;) .

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  • tdepoalatdepoala Posts: 9
    Car_man,

    We are looking at a base model 06 Trailblazer with a MSRP of 28700 (we get the partner plan though, so our price is $27300, there is also the $1500 in rebates going on, to bring the price down to $25,800). We are looking at 24 and 36 months with 15k miles/year.

    What should lease rate and residual value be on this? And which # would we use to calculate lease payment... MSRP or our partner plan price?

    Thanks!
    Nick
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Greetings Nick. If you were to lease a 2006 Chevrolet Trailblazer through GMAC on or before April 4th for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its base lease rate and residual value should be 4.9% and 66%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease should be 4.9% and 57%. You will need both this truck's MSRP and selling price to calculate its lease payment. You can see exactly how to use both by checking out the following informative article that is available here at Edmunds.com: Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

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  • luigisdadluigisdad Posts: 9
    Hi:
    I'm trying to decide between 2 different options.
    1. Option 1 --- take over an existing lease on a 2006 TB SS with 3K miles for 22 more months for $392 per month, at 10k miles/year. Current lessee pays the $595 transfer fee and I pay the shipping of the car -- $1200 from the east coast to the west coast. I don't pay a security deposit or anything else other than the next monthly payment and then the monthly payments after that. The MSRP on that vehicle is $40,230, with a final cost after multiple discounts including employee and supplier discounts was $35,154.45. I've had the car checked at the dealer and got the Autoguard protection for that inspection. I've contacted GMAC and they say that I cannot increase the miles per year other than to prepay the $0.25 per mile which I think is a very stupid idea.
    2. Option 2 -- start a brand new lease for $465 per month for 24 months with 12k miles/year for a new 2006 TB SS, with an MSRP of $36,200, with a local dealer. I'm thinking that if I can get the local dealer to come down to $410 per month, then it's a wash. I'd have to pay 1st month, 1 month security, $595 GMAC fee and $45 documentation fee. So, additional out of pockets of $1115, but I start out with a brand new car. If I had to, I could do 10k miles/year.
    What would you advise?
    Thank you
    Roy
  • burdawgburdawg Posts: 1,522
    I wouldn't limit myself to 10K miles per year. I would go with option 2, and try to negotiate the price down to get a lower monthly lease rate.
  • luigisdadluigisdad Posts: 9
    Doesn't look like there's much more that they will do. As it is, they are $500 below invoice and using a 69% residual. I actually believe that they're only supposed to be using a 67% residual or at least that's what all the other dealers are using. So, it works out to the following:

    1. $1200 shipping for take over lease vs. $1100 in out of pocket costs for new car
    2. 10k/year for take over lease vs. 10k or 12k for new car
    3. $393 per month for take over lease vs. $465 for new car.
    4. Take over lease car has Navigation and premium sound vs. new car has neither. This one is not so important, but it is fair to mention because take over lease car has higher MSRP.
    Roy
  • toenlo36toenlo36 Posts: 8
    Signing a deal tonight:

    Chevy paying off my old Toyota 4Runner lease $343.12 x 3 payments = $1029.36
    (part of Chevy's "4 on us" program - up to 4 payments up to $2000)

    $0 down (just 1st payment) all fees waived / 36 months / 12,000 per year

    $389.00 a month

    2006 Trailblazer LT 4x4 - Silver Blue Metallic / Ebony Leather
    Spring Edition Package (PWR Sunroof, XM, 17" Wheels, BOSE Sound Sys, Running Boards)
    LT Package 2 (Heated front seats, Memory Driver seat & mirrors, Theft Deterrent,)
    1SE LT Preffered Equiptment Group (8 way PWR seats Driver & Passenger, Leather wrapped steering wheel, PWR OSRV Mirrors - heated, RR Radio and HVAC Controls, Driver Info Center, Auto Climate Control, Reversible Cargo Mat)
    1SZ Preffered Equiptment Savings

    I think this is a great deal!
  • luigisdadluigisdad Posts: 9
    I think that Chevy paying off your Toyota is a great deal. As for $389 per month, unless you're getting the SS, I'm not so sure about the deal. Keep in mind that my deal was for the SS which is another $5k expensive. At least here in Los Angeles, there is a huge supply of non-SS Trailblazers and dealers are bending over backwards to sell these.

    Good luck.
    Roy
  • toenlo36toenlo36 Posts: 8
    Let me know if you get the SS down to $410 a month for 12k/24 months. I picked up mine last night and really only paid 1st month and DMV fees (registration, etc...) I would get them to waive the $595 to GMAC and the security and documentation fees. If the dealer here (NY) can basically waive these fees, then they are probably taking from you up front to add to their profit. There are literally about $3000-$4000 worth of dealer rebates on the LT right now. I am happy with my $389, and I shopped around and am a tough buyer, noone was going lower for this truck, several dealers questioned if the deal was for real, and cautioned that I would never get it. Thanks for your feedback!
  • andre1andre1 Posts: 78
    Car_Man,
    Now that June is here, what are the residual and lease rates on a 2006 Chevy Trailblazer LT SS? I need the numbers for 24 and 36 months at 12K and 15K miles per year. Are they still the same as published previously (4.9% lease rate, 66% residual for 24 months, 57% for 36 months)? Also, does the $1500 cash rebate still apply to this vehicle in June (SE region)? If these rates still apply this month, I will probably lease this vehicle (with no money down, of course)! Thanks again.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hey andre1. If you were to lease any 2006 Chevrolet Trailblazer through GMAC right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its base lease rate and residual value should be 4.9% and 66%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease should be 4.9% and 57%. If you were to lease with only 12,000 miles per year, the 24 month residual value would increase by 1% and the 36 month residual value by 3%. I believe that GM is currently providing $1,250 lease cash on this truck.

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  • Hi Car_man,

    I was given a 39 month 12k lease payment quote of $440 today on a 06 TBSS LT with an MSRP of 40,800. I have to put the first payment down and security deposit. They are giving me supplier pricing of $36,730 with an additional MFG rebate of $2,500. The truck is fully loaded (Navigation/Bose) and lacks only the rainsense wipers. They are telling me there is absolutely no negotiating room is this true? Is this a good deal?
  • im just a dummy here so could someone tell me what an average lease would be on the trailblazer ext 4wd and i guess just the regular basics. im just looking for a geustamit. thanks
  • andre1andre1 Posts: 78
    car_buyer3,
    That deal is not bad, but you could have done a little better. If you go to www.fitzmall.com or www.carmax.com, you will see bottom line prices in print for available 06 Trailblazers (including the SS). You can use these published prices for your local dealer to try and beat. The lease numbers for 36 months and 15K miles per year are 57% residual and 4.9% interest. Based on this information, your payment should be in the high $300's instead of mid $400's per month, and that's for 36 months, not 39. The dealer probably marked up the lease numbers to get your payment to $440.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi car_buyer3. GM's supplier purchase price is a reasonable price for this truck. Just make sure that the dealer that you are working with is using GMAC's base lease rate of 4.9% to calculate your truck's lease payment and you should be good to go.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Welcome justwonderin1. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

    Once you have checked out these articles and understand the basics of leasing, stop back in this discussion. If you provide me with the MSRP and selling price of the truck that you want along with how long you want to lease it for and how many miles per year you need to be able to drive it I will be happy to give you an idea of what its monthly payment should be like right now.

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  • andre1andre1 Posts: 78
    Car_Man,
    Are the July lease factors (money factor, residual) the same as June for the 2006 Trailblazer SS? If not, can you give me the lease factors for the following:

    24 months, 12K and 15K miles per year
    36 months, 12K and 15K miles per year
  • jonscoggsjonscoggs Posts: 1
    Hi Car_man,

    My wife and I are looking into a 2006 Trailblazer LT, pretty much loaded. Per the internet, the MSRP is $33,660. My wifes grandfather was an engineer at GM, so we qualify for the GSM price, which is $30,186.33 (again per the GM Family First website). Right now there is $3750 in cash back incentives. So, I am coming up with a Cap Cost of $26,436.33. Am I calculating that right with the incentive?

    We are looking for a 36 month lease with 12,000 miles per year. Can you estimate payments for me? It sounds like the residual value would be 57% or 60%. How do I convert Chevy's 4.9% lease rate into a money factor?

    Thanks,

    jonscoggs
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hey andre1. GMAC does not use money factors to calculate the interest portion of lease payments. Instead it uses lease rates, that look just like normal interest rates. You can convert its published lease rates into approximate money factor equivalents by dividing them by 2400. If you were to lease a 2006 Chevrolet Trailblazer SS though GMAC right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its base lease rate and residual value should be 4.9% and 66%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month, 15,000 mile per year lease should be 4.9% and 57%. With only 12,000 miles per year, the 24 month residual value would be 1% higher and the 36 month residual value would be 3% higher. When negotiating your lease on this truck, keep in mind that GM is currently providing $1,250 lease cash on it. This incentive will help you to negotiate an attractive capitalized cost for your lease.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Posts: 38,515
    Hi jonscoggs. Unfortunately, the $3,000 customer cash that is available on the 2006 Chevrolet Trailblazer is not compatible with leases of it through GMAC. GM is only providing a $1,250 cash incentive on leases of this truck right now. Assuming that the price that you got from the Family First site is not already taking this cash into account, this truck's capitalized cost would be around $28,936. Using this cap cost and an MSRP of $33,660, I estimate that this truck's 36 month, 12,000 mile per year, zero down, pre-tax monthly payment should be around $344. I used a lease rate of 4.9% (it is just a coincidence that this rate is the same as this truck's current rate for conventional loans) and a residual value of 60% to arrive at this payment.

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  • 2 weeks ago I leased a 2006 Trailblazer. I did the deal on a friday night and on monday morning after my wife and i spoke about it more, we decided we want to finance the vehicle. When i spoke to the dealer they told me it was impossible to change it over and that the rebates and what not would not apply and they gave me a over $200 more per month payment on 72 months! My question is, once i get the paper work from GMAC for my lease can i contact them to change the lease into a finance deal and will they honor the purchase price used for the lease?
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