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Mazda RX-8 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    You have to just call around (or visit the dealer web pages). MazdaUSA pulled the 04s from the inventory some time back, so no easy way to find a car. You could just keep finding dealers farther and farther away from home and ask them if they have any 04s. A lot of 04s have been sold, and some dealers I was talking to are now sold out. Of course, that means they will have more 05s to clear on in a few months....

    Dennis
  • jcollum68jcollum68 Posts: 12
    I have a complete list at home, spent a few hours looking aroung the country. The only one left in Ohio is at Kempthorn in Canton. There are about 50-70 still out there. When I get home I will post the list.

    I just got a quote from Kempthorn. Gray 6spd with cloth, appearance package, Nav system, 6 disc changer, rotary accent package, touring package. No spolier. MSRP $33,609, their offer was $26,995. He said he could knock only a $100-$200 more off that price. They have had it on their lot since 10/03, and began the warranty on 5/1/05.

    Other two dealers with a lot of RX-8's are Schaefer & Strohminger in Maryland, www.sandsauto.com, they have about 5 left, and Courtesy Mazda in Las Vegas has about 5 left.

    As Dwynne correctly stated, it seems many of these have Nav system and no leather, which is unappealing to me. To install leather aftermarket is about $1200.00, so it is not much cheaper than an 05 with leather without Nav system.
  • jcollum68jcollum68 Posts: 12
    I meant to say 50-70 left in the country, not at Kempthorn...Kempthorn has only one, and that is the only one in Ohio. However, Park Mazda in Wooster has a new 04 RX-8 decked out at $41K with all the Mazda Speed goodies, and they are at $10K off, aksing $31K.
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    I just got a quote from Kempthorn. Gray 6spd with cloth, appearance package, Nav system, 6 disc changer, rotary accent package, touring package. No spolier. MSRP $33,609, their offer was $26,995. He said he could knock only a $100-$200 more off that price. They have had it on their lot since 10/03, and began the warranty on 5/1/05.

    So this is a pre-owned (used) car? Why wouldn't the warranty start as soon as you purchased it.

    The good news is that with everyone choosing to save and get an 04 8 the 05 8 sales had to have suffered a LOT. So I see more incentives and deals coming on those. It might be a long wait to get down to $4-5k under invoice though.

    Dennis
  • jcollum68jcollum68 Posts: 12
    No, this is brand new, 200 miles...all the ones I am talking about are brand new, never titled. The reason they had to start the warranty time clock is they were forced to by Mazda USA...they probably do not want to warranty a new 04 starting late in 05... Other dealers which have new 04's are as follows:

    Bill Hood Mazda (Lousiana), Hollingsworth Mazda (Louisiana), Lou Fusz Mazda (Missouri), Parks Mazda (North Carolina), Capital of Cary Mazda (North Carolina), Stokes Mazda (South Carolina), Gaithersburg Mazda (Maryland), World Car Mazda (Texas--has 8 new 04 RX8's), Hancock Mazda (texas 7 RX-8's), Bronx Mazda (New York), Ontario Mazda (New York), Ramsey Mazda (New York 4 RX-8's), Young Mazda (Pennsylvania), Sussman Mazda (Pennsylvania), Maple Shade Mazda (NJ 4 RX8's), Champion Mazda (Massachusetts), Burt Mazda (Colorado), Earnhardt Mazda (Arizona)

    Unless otherwise noted, the dealers have 3 or less RX-8's available.

    Any idea if there will be low factory interest rates on the 05 RX-8's anytime soon? Did they offer low interest rates last year on the 04's? If so, what rates?
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    That sounds like pure BS to me. I have seen and heard of lots of left over cars and never heard of the warranty starting until it was sold. IF indeed the warranty is running on these cars the dealers will probably never sell them.

    I should have pointed out that some of the dealers that still have 04s have them for a reason, they will not freaking deal on them :-) I guess as time passes they will have to, but when I talked to some a few month back they still though they needed to make a nice profit on the car and would not deal low. The ones that were blowing them out cheap - sold theirs (go figure).

    Dennis
  • jcollum68jcollum68 Posts: 12
    Yeah, I'm with you...I was a bit surprised Kempthorn in Canton wasn't thrilled to have be ready to buy...they were very casual and nice, but not really seeming like they wanted to move this car. Heck, it has been on their lot since 10/03! I'll probably sit on it for awhile and see what happens...I am really starting to lean towards an 05.

    I would love to know if, and when, there will be special financing on teh 05's
  • baptistandybaptistandy Posts: 10
    So, i'm a brand new college grad with 25k to spend on a car. I'm 99.9% sure about the rx-8. Since I want more than a base model, would it be best to wait till the 06's come out and get an 05 heavily rebated, or get an 04 now (if i can find one). OR get a used one? Any thoughts? This is my first car purcahse and am kinda in the dark on everythign. Any advice would be appreciated.
  • jcollum68jcollum68 Posts: 12
    If you do not want a base model, 06 is out of the question. I posted the 04's available, they are mostly $26.5K to $27K as they are pretty well equipped generally. Used one is probably your best bet, as even an 05 will be not have much optional equipment for $25K. They do come pretty well equipped in base trim, though...you should go take a look at an entry level 05
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    jcollum writes...." The reason they had to start the warranty time clock is they were forced to by Mazda USA".

    That is pure bologna...
    the warranty starts the day the dealer reports the car sold to mazda....if the warranty has been started its because the dealer burned the RDR...
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    You don't want a "base" 8, get at lease the sports pack. That adds traction and stability control, HID lights, etc. On the auto cars (but why get an auto tranny 8?) it adds lower profile tires, larger brakes and wheels. It is the best cluck for the buck package on the 8.

    The invoice on a new 05 MT w/sports pack is $26,756 - so you are going to have to wait until there is some rebate or dealer money on them to get in your price range. Does Mazda has a college grad rebate - if so that would help?

    If you could find an 04 that was not loaded up, the price would work - but that might be hard.

    Nothing wrong with a used 8, but given how cheap you can get a new 04 I would not pay much for a used one. Maybe $21k-22k for a loaded up car and under $20k for a sports pack car. It just does not make sense to spend more for used. If you found a NEW 04 MT with sports pack it should be around $21,125-$22,125 .

    If you ARE looking for an auto, there might be one of those around as a new 04 that would be under your price.

    Dennis
  • lhesslhess Posts: 379
    Lester Raines in S. Charleston, WV had 8 last time I was there. My post # 711 outlined some of the options and the price they quoted me for each. I haven't been there or talked to them since (I try to stay away - I've spent all my money on 8 accessories...), but I'm willing to bet they still have some.

    baptistandy...they might be a good source for you as well. some of the cars were fairly nicely equipped. Mine is a MT with sport, no leather, no sunroof, does have a navigation, I got it out the door for $21K. They ARE dealing on these cars and they were super to work with. Look back at post # 711. My bet is that those numbers are not bottom dollar either!!
  • lhesslhess Posts: 379
    Dennis is right, unless the used one is dirt cheap, don't do it. There are untitled 04's out there and as he posted earlier, the 05's are gonna have to start coming down soon as well. After understanding (somewhat) the dynamics of the car, I'm glad I didn't buy a used one because I REALLY want to know how the car has been treated during it's life.

    Patience will pay off. I wanted one the minute they hit the lots, but curbed my enthusiasm until just this past march. Got a leftover 04 at a price that I can live with. Had I bought sooner, I would be moaning about my high payments.

    ps I can't post any phone numbers for lester raines, but the web site is www.lesterraines.com. there is no info on there beyond the hours and phone numbers, but you can get that much.
  • baptistandybaptistandy Posts: 10
    Yall have any idea how much it would cost to ship to texas? And just a lil clarification, i meant wait till the 06's come out and buy a rebated 05, would it be worth the wait? Thanks again for the words, I'm totally clueless on all of this.
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    We don't know there will be an 06, but we think there will be.

    It took them a while for the 04 dealer money to max out at $4,000 (or $4,500). What is likely to happen is some rebate/money will be put on the 05s and there will be lots of choices. As those sell and the choices get less, sales slow so they will up the money for better prices. They may do this in several stages. So the best selection can come with the highest price. Lowest price (like right now) can mean the worst selection.

    You can call McNutt Auto Transport and ask - you will need the city and ZIP for both the dealership and where you want the car delivered. An non covered (open) haul might be $800-$1,000 depending on the distance. I have used them 3 times in the past, once to sell a 'vette and twice to buy cars.

    Dennis
  • lhesslhess Posts: 379
    these cars when I was at Raines because so many of you posters are far away. They said they would be happy to help out in that regard. They may have shipper they use as well - didn't ask that questions. the zip for Raines is 25309.

    I looked back at my earlier post and some of those red ones I listed first are nicely equipped. I added a spoiler to mine for just under $300 from my dealer.
  • baptistandybaptistandy Posts: 10
    curse my inability to drive a stick and the fact that the air force is sending me to russia for a month on saturday. Hopefully some new 04's will be floatin around when i get back.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    We only have one new 2004 RX-8 left in stock. its priced a few hundred over invoice less the final pay incentive....oddly enough we have sold 3 used RX-8's for more money than the brand new RX-8. Goes to show you that some folks will pay more for a used one in the color they want vs. a new one in the color they don't like.
  • dsmdriverdsmdriver Posts: 3
    Ricart in Columbus,OH claims to have about 40 2004 RX-8's in stock. They have not responsed to any emails I have sent though.
  • dwynnedwynne Posts: 4,018
    That is pure bologna...
    the warranty starts the day the dealer reports the car sold to mazda....if the warranty has been started its because the dealer burned the RDR


    I agree, but I don't think I have seen the acronym "RDR" used before. What does it stand for?

    Thanks,
    Dennis
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