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Nissan 350Z Problems and Solutions

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    you just said you currently have no problems, though, correct, jmills?

    so what's the problem?

    by the way, i just dropped my Z off at the dealer this morning for an oil change and to check the tire growl. We'll see what happens.

    I've got 15k miles now and, although i do have the noise, the tires are still in very good shape, so i have no big complaints.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    I have Cupping and growl on my front tires on my second set. The dealer states it is not sufficiently bad to replace the tires. They did check alignment and found the alignment was perfect on the front tires. I have never had any type of tire problem on any of the five previous new cars I owned in the past six years.

    I have a steering wheel which is splitting and which two dealers state is an appearance problem and not covered under warranty.

    The Gas gauge was defective and had to be replaced.

    The driver’s window motor was defective and had to be replaced.

    I had to go to the Better business bureau and go through arbitration to get the defective rear view mirror replaced, the dealer stated it was good and Nissan refused to send a factory rep to look at it. The Arbitrator and an independent ASE tech determined it was defective. After this judgment Nissan finally replaced the mirror last week.

    It took me three dealers in two states followed by a call to Nissan to finally get the headlights aimed. All three dealers told me they cannot be aimed. Finally I called Nissan and they "instructed" the last dealer and the lights were aimed.

    :lemon:
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    well, as far as those other problems, if they were fixed, I don't believe they help qualify the car as a lemon. But, of course, I'm no expert.

    on the tires, you just wrote a few days ago that you are getting reimbursed for tires and, i thought, they were going to diagnose and possibly fix it (again). Have you tried the new alignment specs and new redesigned tires (nissan's claims, not mine)?

    If they still can't fix your tire problem, then, yes, you may very well qualify for lemon under those circumstances ... I don't know what the mileage limit is, though.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    I was told on the telephone that I would be re-imbursed for alignment which I should not have been charged for. I have not received any written confirmation or a check yet.

    The dealer stated that my cupping and growl was "not bad enough to warrant replacement".

    I have the "Old" tires which Nissan states are the problem.

    Bridgestone denies that there has been any problem or re-design of their tire.

    The same tire is OEM on the RX8 and several other sports cars and has not experienced any cupping or feathering problems.

    I think Nissan extended the alignment and tire warranty in the hope of killing the class action lawsuit in progress.

    :lemon:
  • Can you send me the info to the Lemon Law Lawyer you used. I too want to get rid of my 350Z.
    I have had soo many problems with my car.

    Thank you.

    Ian
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    so i dropped my car off at the dealer yesterday for an oil change and to look into my tire roar.

    they have ordered new front tires for me, and scheduled me for a 2nd appointment sept 1st. Problem is that they say they have to send my car out to get the alignment done because "its very sensitive." They say I should expect to be without my car for 2 days. Ugh!!

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    Since Nissan is so concerned about the quality of their service and their customer satisfaction, I am certain they will provide you with a loaner car to drive while yours is being worked on.

    By the way,what year and model 350Z do you have?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    '04 Touring.

    Well, a loaner has nothing to do with Nissan, its on a dealership by dealership basis. For instance, my volvo dealer gives loaners, but I've heard of many who don't. anyway, the service rep made no mention of a loaner.

    Its ok. I have spare cars at home that I'd rather drive than an economy rental car anyway.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • How loud was the noise, and how noticeable was the cupping. I have some noise, but it doesn't seem to intrusive. With the top down the outside noise drowns it out pretty well, with the top up I can hear it more. Mine does it the most at 40 - 45 MPH on smooth roads, and a little at 25MPG when braking.

    My feathering is on the outside blocks. I have had three alignments so far, and each one seams to cause the outside or the inside to feather. 12,000 miles so far.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    typically the inside feathers per the problem.

    My tires still look good to me, but I can feel the problem when i run my hand over the tire. Just slightly.

    I bought the car with 9K miles (now at 15k), so I've always had the roaring noise when slowing down and didn't know it was a problem. Over the last couple thousand miles, however, it has gotten louder. The noise has been most noticeable at exactly those times you describe. Moderate steady speed on a smooth road produces a droning kind of sound through the floorboards and slowing down from about 25 and lower is a very loud roaring noise.

    how many miles do you have on yours?

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • Thanks for the reply. So if I understand you, you get the almost rythmic droning noise at around 40 as well as the slower and braking speeds.

    My tires still look good to me. I only notice the feathering my running my hand one direction.

    Started out the inside blocks feathered, then the outside on one tire and the inside on the other, then none on one, and oustide on other, and now outside on both.

    I didn't think mine would qualify for a replacement, but after hearing about yours, it's worth a trip to the dealer.

    Either way, I always said if I can get 15K out of the tires I will be happy, this minor hassle can't take away from the thrill of this ride!

    Thanks
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    I totally agree in every way. I was fully prepared to buy new tires every 15k on my own and had no problem with that. The fact I'm getting freebies is just an added bonus. :)

    By the way, I said nothing to the service department about the tires being worn. I just said "i have the tire roar described in this letter from Nissan." They checked it out and said "yes, you do. we will order new tires."

    Also, had a message last night from the dealer. My new tires are in. Hmmmm... gonna have to call and see if they want to take me sooner than my Sept 1st appointment.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • I bought it new from a Nissan dealer. By GM I mean General Manager.

    Yes my Z was a lemon, but there are quite a few. Note Nissan has now extended the warranty on the tires. This proves the point that there is a problem with th suspension design. However in my opinion, extending the tire warranty doesnt solve the problem, and once you get past that warranty, you will likely be replacing tires at your cost frequently.

    As far as the transmissions go, not all are affected, but many are, and some more than once... My biggest concern was the fact that they replaced it with the same model transmission, which is another sign that they have decided not to actually correct the problem, but bandaid it. Automatics seem to be very solid though.

    By the way I dont know if I mentioned but I traded it in for a 2003 S2000 which I know love! I got 22500 trade in and I owed 23200, so with the tax savings I ended up in the black ON TRADE IN (I never trade in normally). And I dont have to mess with lawyers or any of that.

    The more I read forums about the Z, the more concerned I am with build quality, and the happier I am I got out before everyone starts to realize the Z is not a reliable vehicle in general. The value of the car IMO is going to really drop soon. But I could be wrong. Some people are willing to pay for a pretty car thats fun to drive even if it does fall apart.

    The S2000 has 26k miles on it, and I got certified with 100k miles. But in all my searching on the S2000 forums, I havent found any problems as common as the feathering, transmission grind, and axle clicks that I had with the Z.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    its not the same transmission ... i can't remember exactly what build they are on, but I believe its somewhere around 4 or 5 different transmission model numbers out there.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    So you bought your 350 Z used with 9K and now have 15 K .

    In reading your many posts I would have thought you had many thousands of miles and numerous dealings with NIssan.

    That gives you six thousand miles of Z experience.

    I strongly suggest you temper your posts concerning 350 Z performance, handling and reliability with more experience.

    Many 350 Z Owners who have many more miles and considerably more experience dealing with Nissan dealers and the factory are considerably better equiped to evaluate the reliability and service Nissan provides.
  • orinda8orinda8 Posts: 4
    I just saw an ad from Michelin picturing a 350Z and hinting that these are the tires for this car; I am wondering if anyone had tried them yet;I also have to state that I have the 05 Touring version and have had absolutely no problems at 10K, no wear on the tires. It came with R rated tires not Z rated and I wonder if that is the reason for better wear. I also note that Consumer Reports continues to give the car good marks, so I wonder if there is some bias in opposite directions from either CR's readers vs the forum's readers
  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    Consumer Reports bases it's reliability on reader polls.

    They initially check rated the 2003 Z until they got negative reader poll results and now show the 2003 Z with low reliability and thus no check rating.

    They also give the 2004 2005 a check rating because they have not received negative reader inputs on reliability from their reader annual polls.

    This does not indicate a Bias on the part of CU, it simply reflects their readers reliability experience.

    Thye fact that Nissan has extended their Alignment/Tire warranty for the 2003 & 2004 Z to 36 months with unlimited miles would tend to indicate that aproblem does exist with those model years.

    If it was a simple re-alignment problem it whould be a one shot fix.

    If it was a simple tire construction/design problem it would be a one shot fix.

    As this and many other forums seem to demonstrate that does not appear to be the case.

    As one of those who has experienced the tire feathering/cupping problem on two succesive sets of tires with multiple dealer re-alignments and statements that the front end alignment was not out of spec, I do not think that these forums are biased.

    What tires came on your 2005 ?

    Are they the Bridgestone RE040 ?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    no one car is a reliable experience base. Even if I had 60K miles under my belt... its still just one car. It means very little.

    Regardless, I'm not sure what posts you are referring to. To the best of my recollection, I've never claimed "its a reliable car." I try not to do that with any car. I do, however, constantly remark that those with complaints are louder than those without. That's just a simple fact of life, and I can find that on any problems & solutions board.

    I certainly can comment on handling and performance because 6K miles is way more than any car mag drives a car for before giving their review. So my opinion on those aspects are no less valid than anything you pay to read.

    If you think my posts are somehow offensive in any way ... you are reading too much into them. I'm always very calm and analytical ... I can't help it if that doesn't come through in words on a forum.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • orinda8orinda8 Posts: 4
    Yes I have the Bridgestone RE040; at 10K there is so little wear that I predict an easy 30K; however they are nothing like the Michelin Pilots I had on my last car (BMW330i); but I am waiting a while before changing them just to be sure there are no alignment problems. I much prefer this car to the BMW, unlike the others who have posted previously
  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    The Nissan factory rep told me, on the telephone, that Bridgestone had redesigned the RE040 and that the cupping/feathering problem was caused by the tire.

    If that is true then Pilot's would probably cure the problem.

    However if it really was just the tire I doubt Nissan would have extended the alignment warranty to 36 months unlimited mileage on all 2003 & 2004 Z's.

    I called Bridgestone and they stated that they had not redesigned the RE040, had had no problems, and knew of none. They had me take the car to one of their local factory owned stores and verified that I have cupping, and again stated there has been no redesign of the RE040. I tend to believe them, since RE040's are OEM on the RX8 and several other performance cars, and have reported no problems whatsoever.

    I got an easy 31,000 out of my rear tires, they were not yet at the wear bars, and replaced them with Bridgestone Pole position S03's because Tire Rack rates them slightly better than the Pilots's

    You should have received a letter from Nissan announcing the extended alignment and tire warranty if you have a 2003 or 2004.

    I agree that Michelin is the preferable tire, we just put four Pilot sport A/S on our Mazda and the improvement in handling is amazing.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    You called Bridgestone? Interesting. When was this? Did you inform them that Nissan is slandering their good name? I'd like to hear their response to that. Likewise, I'd like to hear what Nissan has to say in response to the info you obtained from Bridgestone. Could make for some good entertainment.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    Initial call was ten days ago.
    After reading your questions I called Bridgestone again.
    I just got off the telephone with their technical service rep. @ 1-800-367-3872.
    Mark - the Tech service rep stated; " The RE040 was redesigned to compensate for the front end problems on the 350 Z."
    He also stated that "this redesign will minimize, but not eliminate cupping because it is a suspension problem which Nissan has been unable to correct."

    He also reccomended that I ONLY use RE040's - Not the much higher performance Pole Position S03's I now have on the rear, since they are not designed to "minimize the cupping problem"

    So it sounds like any tire you put on the front of a 350 Z is going to cup due to the suspension.

    He also stated that "Nissan has tried to correct the suspension problem" but has been unsuccessful.
  • orinda8orinda8 Posts: 4
    This is interesting info; I now wonder if Michelin has designed the Pilot Exalto also to compensate for the suspension problem since they picture the Z in their ad;these tires are not cheap, so I am reluctant to take a chance
  • jmillsjmills Posts: 77
    Based on what I have gotten, and or not gotten, from Nissan and Bridgestone it sounds like any tire is going to cup on the front of the 350 Z's.

    Nissan stated that the redesign was very minor and has a less aggressive tread, you probably could not see the difference.

    It sounds to me like Z owners are simply going to have to live with cupping/feathering and noise.

    I have already replaced my rear tires with Bridgestone Pole Position S03's and will probably go with them on the front when the RE040,s wear out.

    Tire rack reccomended the Avon All Weather for very good wear- It is made by Cooper- and tested very good. They are also very inexpensive.

    We just put four Michelin Pilot Sport A/S on our Mazda and they are exceptional, but they are not available in the 18" size for the Z or probably would try them.

    You could try calling Michelin tech support and asking them if the Exalto is designed to compensate for the Z problem.
  • zugerzuger Posts: 1
    The brakes keep on squeaking at low speed when applied lightly after warm up on my new Z roadster.
    Had it in 2 times they reset the rear and then totally redid the front without any improvement.
    I will have it in again to totally redo the rear, I guess.
    Does anyone have this problem as well and was there a solution to it?
  • Yes there was supposedly a new model or something, but clearly that new model didnt have a fix.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,540
    i was trying to find the info... but don't have that much time to spare ... in any case, I know there are at least 3 versions ... possibly more.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • tdowelltdowell Posts: 4
    just bought a new 05 Z with no miles, and i've put 1600 on myself in two months. been hearing a slight rattling noise from the rear like something was loose when slowly engaging the clutch and when turning off the engine. also makes a slight humming noise right before i park after putting it in neutral and letting the clutch out. any ideas?
  • I had a similar situation a few months ago. I thought it had something to do with the clutch, but it was coming from the right rear. Mostly noticeable when letting up on the clutch starting out. I brought it in to the dealer, and there was a TSB out for something to do with the rear wheel bearing. Some desribe it as a rattling chain noise or even like coins clinking in the back. It usually shows up around 8,000 miles and affects 03 and 04's. I thought they used a different bearing system with the 05's to prevent that. So your's might be something different.
  • tdowelltdowell Posts: 4
    thanks for the insight...I'm gonna get underneath her tonite and see what I can turn up and then I'll try the dealer. yeah i can pin it coming from the rear, can't really tell which side yet, but thats certainly the noise its making. what did the dealer do to fix?
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