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Nissan 350Z Problems and Solutions

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  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    The problem is NOT the Owner....it's the car itself.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    Obviously, fish, I'm not saying the car is trouble free. I've read too many reports to say that.

    But, is it your contention that owners should be exempt from liability for the life of the vehicle?

    I'm not giving Nissan a pass on this problem, but I try to at least be fair. I've read reports from owners who have a problem at 20K and complain that Nissan isn't taking care of the problem. That's just ridiculous. And, yes, it is part of the responsibility of an owner that if you have a problem with ANY car, you report it as soon as possible. Is the dealer just supposed to believe everybody who says "oh, yeah, i had the problem 50K miles ago, but just kept it to myself till now"? Heck, if ANY company followed that rule, they'd be out of business within a year.

    by the way, if you check out my350z.com, you'll find plenty of folks who have had their tires replaced and alignment done for free on '04 models (i haven't looked, but i wouldn't be surprised if there are reports of fixes on '05 models, too).

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    Understood and I agree!!!!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    So, for those of you who have had the tire feathering/alignment problem, could you possibly describe, with a bit more detail, how you determined there was a problem. Of course, there is the physical feathering, but I've heard many folks describe the harsh "tire roar" that occurs, as well. How would I (or any other Z owner) know what this sounds like? In other words, since I bought one with 9K miles, the road noise has always been the same for me over these past 1200 miles, and it is rather loud, but this may be normal and the roar described by owners with the problem is much louder than the noise I am experiencing.

    I figured the noise was normal, but reading descriptions from those with problems, I may indeed experience a problem myself (although my tires seem to be in great shape so far). For those who have had the problem fixed, is the ride actually "quiet"? Or, at least, is the road noise consistent? (not changing noise level depending on a certain speed - since i've heard many say the noise in a problematic car is more pronounced when slowing down past 40 mph)

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • 350zkid350zkid Posts: 1
    hey man, i just got a 2005 enthusiast 350z, and i was wondering about the cloth seats. i heard that they frey fast. do your seats do that? have they changed it for 2005?

    thanks man,

    evan
  • dh21187dh21187 Posts: 2
    You should take them to small claims court and get your money back. Just search the web and you'll find hundreds of complaints from people just like you.
  • dh21187dh21187 Posts: 2
    I have 9800 miles on my 04 ZR now and the tire noise is unbearable. I scheduled an appointment Jan. 12th to have it addressed but I missed it due to snow. I have rescheduled it for tomorrow, the 21st, and I will have to see what their response is to this problem.
    I also have a number of other issues they must deal with:
    1-GPS unit door does not open all the time
    2-Tach just stops working sometimes
    3-Right power door lock does not always open
    4-Loud clutch chatter at idle
    5-Can't shift into 5th gear without difficulty

    As soon as these are fixed the car is going up for sale. I only drive the car on weekends and off days from work and I regret purchasing this car. It has been nothing but a headache.
  • liongirlliongirl Posts: 10
    Since no one has answered your question yet, I will try. The sound my front tires made was a "whom, whom, whom", like the sound a flat bike tire might make. You will definitely notice it, expecially around 25 mph, the faster you drive the less you hear the sound. It gets progressive louder as the tire feathers more. You'll notice it, trust me. I was not able to see any tire ware visually, but the tech said there was definite tire wear. I have put on 3000 miles since my last tire change and have not heard anything yet.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    thanks, liongirl. That kind of makes me feel better since the noise I hear is a very steady tire roar when slowing down. Since its not pulsating, I'll keep hope alive that I don't have the alignment problem (yet ... and, yes, i'm knocking on wood).

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • liongirlliongirl Posts: 10
    Good luck, but don't hold your breath. I talk to every Z owner I see and so far everyone has had a least one tire change. Someone has a 2005 in the parking lot, but I have not seen the owner yet. I wonder if the 2005 will have the same problem? I intend to keep my Z because other than that I love the car. I'll work with my dealer, I'm hoping the roar does not come back. If it does I want free tires and alignments for the life of the car not just the extended 2 year warranty they issued on the 2003's.
  • Some dealers will do an alignment and replace tires on '04, some will not. My nephew took his
    '04 to a dealer where he did not buy the car and they held to '03 TSB but the dealer where he bought the car replace the tires and did the alignment. The consensis from Z car forums is that the '05 are having problems also. The problem appears to be an engineering problem and nothing short of re-engineering will fix the problem either from the factory or aftermarket. I advise anyone not to buy a 350Z until this problem if fixed for good. I am extremely disappointed with Nissan for stonewalling on this issue. I am a owner or previous owner of 4 Z's, 4 Maximas, 2 200SX and a '03 G35 coupe. If they don't get this right it will be the last Nissan I purchase.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    i totally agree with you on keeping my Z. I knew about the tire issues before I purchase and figured, at worst, it will cost me a couple of front tires each year. To me, that's just not a big deal for having a car like this.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • jfd47jfd47 Posts: 3
    I am having the exact same problem with the tires on my 2004 350Z roadster. I contacted Nissan Corporate and was told they didn't care if the car had 200 or 2,000 miles on it, it is not their problem. They said that there are no tire issues with the 2004 350Z's. Did you replace your tires with the same make as the ones that it came with? I was told to replace all 4 and get rid of the Bridgestones that are on it.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    yup, the bridgestones are horrible.

    When I replace them, I'll probably be getting the Avon all-seasons off tirerack.

    How many miles do you have on yours, by the way?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • jfd47jfd47 Posts: 3
    10,000 when I started having problems.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    Did you actually notice the wear on the tires at that point? Or was it more of a sound and feel kinda thing?

    thanks for your info. Its helpful to me since we both have '04s and I am now at about 11K miles.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • jfd47jfd47 Posts: 3
    I first started feeling the handling change at low speeds, then shortly after the sound started. The tires don't show a lot of wear, but the mechanic at the dealership said it was definitely the front tires.
  • kevinkkevink Posts: 7
    :cry: I did all my research before buying my 2004 350Z last August. At 12500 miles I started getting all the descriptions of the 2003 tire feathering problem. Sure enough I took my car to the dealer that said it was a tire feathering problem but couldn't do anything because Nissan did not have a Service Bulletin for the 2004 Models. I called Nissan and now they are telling me the same thing that I'll have to drop about 700 bucks to get new tires and an alignment. NOT TOO HAPPY. I Should have bought a new corvette and spent the money elsewhere. I love(d) the Z but I don't know about this big problem. My service guy told me they are starting to see more and more of these problems showing up on the 2004's because the tires are finally seeing some miles put on them.

    I'll keep you posted because I'm not giving up on this just yet.
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    Seriously, start the Lemon Law process before you get too many miles on your car. If you fight Nissan hard enough they will relent and buy back you car. I just hope you are still in the time and mile threshold to qualify for the :lemon:

    Good luck!!
  • liongirlliongirl Posts: 10
    Yes, my Nissan dealer replaced them with the same tires (Polenza). I'm going in for my 30,000 mile maintenance here soon and I'm going to have them check the wear on the second set of tires they put on in January (5,000 miles ago). I have yet to hear the roaring. Read some of the back messages, many people have tried different tires with pretty much the same result. I'm going to sit down with the dealer and see if they will just replace the tires and alignments free for the life of the car. I have been told they can work something out and Nissan can easily absorb the cost.
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    Well, it sounds as though Nissan is playing the ver popular Blame Game. They tend to blame everyone else for the tire issues except themselves. In my Dad's case Nissan originally blamed the dealer for not have the latest and greatest equipment at their Servcie Department. That didn't make the dealer too happy!!! eventually, Nissan will except blame...but you'll have to take them to court!!!!
  • liongirlliongirl Posts: 10
    My dealers mechanic told me it was the tires too. He said they are high performance tires, thinner than average and don't last that long. I don't blame Bridgestone for being offended. I've been told to keep working with them, keep good records, be polite, the dealership can work with you if they choose and Nissan will absorb the cost. Keep us posted on your progress. Next week I bring mine in for 30,000 mainteance as well as having them check the new set of tires they put on in January (5000 miles ago). I'm going to sit down with them and see what my options are, go through the chain of command and see what they offer. I just got the one-on-one service announcement to mail last week, anyone else get that? N
  • kevinkkevink Posts: 7
    In this weeks installment of "Where's My New Tires" I find out that Nissan is pulling the "he'll go away" routine. I contacted my consumer affairs guy (no names) at Nissan who tells me I'm on my own with this problem. I told him that while I appreciated his help I would need to have this resolved by someone higher up. He questioned me to why....and I said I dropped over 60000 bucks last August on two new Nissan's and I think it's only fair that they address my 700 dollar problem. Now I wait to hear from someone higher up....probably the same guy disguising his voice. Keep you posted. In the meantime I still love the Z just not the corporation. :sick:
  • eeezzzeeezzz Posts: 2
    I have a 2004 with 18" BBS wheels and Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position S-03 tires with 9,500 miles on them. They started off great - no noise at first then they got progressively worse. I couldn't take the noise any more and started looking into the fixing the problem.I checked with two local dealers, one said nothing would be covered on 2004's and they other offered to "see what he could do". Once I got to the dealer and they saw the aftermarket wheels and tires, they said the car would have to be returned to OEM before they would cover anything. I opted to pay $60.00 for the alignment with the aftermarket equipment but they mentioned only the front end could be aligned and nothing could be done for the rear wheels yet I found the same wear patterns on the rear tires (as the front). Is anyone aware of adjustments for the rear wheels?
  • gotzgotz Posts: 2
    What was the outcome? Did Nissan pay for it? I have a 2004 Z and the clutch just went out at 10,000 miles. The dealer said (so far) that because the clutch springs are okay that it is not covered and will cost $2,200. I've only had it 11 months and drive it like an old grandpa (according to my wife). The dealer has told me that when they receive the new parts they will tear into in further and if I am lucky they will find something that will be covered under warranty. Yeah right!!!!
    It's really sad because this is the 1st car that I have truly loved to drive and I am not very happy at this time with Nissan. :mad: ">
    Steve
  • zladyzlady Posts: 8
    Hi JW/Brett,
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but being they are 'directional' tires if they are put on the opposite rim they will be going in the wrong direction whether they are removed from the rim or not...right? They can't possibly be rotated to the back as the back tires are slightly bigger. I haven't had any problems so far andI have just over 7,000mi on my 04 Z, but the service dept is hounding me to get it in for 'tire rotation', i suspect it's because they don't want me to 'discover' the horror tire stories I'm reading about the 03 & 04 Zs.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    they would be going in the wrong direction only if the outside of the tire remained on the outside when swapping, but then that would defeat the purpose of removing them from the rims. So, when swapped, the outside of the tire when on the right wheel becomes the inside of the tire on the left wheel, for instance.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • zladyzlady Posts: 8
    Hello gbrozen...
    Oh, if I would have thought longer about it I would have eventually figured that out :) . In any event, I am holding off just a bit before taking it in for service because I don't know if I'll be able to control my anger, no less my disappointment regarding this whole situation. I will continue to check in. Thanks again for the clarification...it makes perfect sense!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    what whole situation? did i miss something? i thought you said you've had no problems?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    it all depends on whether your garage door has a rolling code or not.

    Oh, hey, just did a search ... the info you need is right on Homelink's site:
    http://www.homelink.com/training/train.taf

    Choose "Program for the first time" and pick your car.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

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