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Honda S2000



  • Currently I own a 2006 Carrera S and a 2005 Volvo S 60. I live near New York City and the Volvo serves as a solid backup, particularly in the Winter. However, the more I look at -- and learn about -- the 2006 S 2000, the more excited I become. Since I love the Carrera and cannot afford three cars, the comfortable and safe Volvo would have to go in the event I purchase a Honda S 2000. By the way, I am single, so a two-seater is not a problem. I'm also on my late sixties, but feel like sixteen driving a sports car.

    QUESTION: Would it be sensible to commute 20 miles on a daily basis with a 2006 Honda S 2000? Granted, I will need winter tires, but what about inside temperature and snow accumulation on the soft top? In short, is it reasonable to expect making it throughout the winter months with a decent level of comfort?
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Are you serious? :surprise:

    I had a 2002 S2000 and - as you can probably tell - thought very highly of it. But I now have a 2005 Carrera S Cab. I seriously doubt a Honda S2000 in my garage would get much use if the Carrera stayed. The 997 is a better 20 mile daily commuter and neither of them are practical for winter use, even with winter tires. If you are worried about "snow accumulation on the soft top", it's a safe bet that the question you should have asked is about snow accumulation under the limited ground clearance - of either car.

    You seem like a much better candidate for a 911 / Cayenne garage. A 911 / S2000 garage could lead to bipolar disorder trying to choice between them in good weather and having to hitch a ride in the sloppy days of winter. ;)
  • dentonflydentonfly Posts: 1
    Hi Friends, I recently purchased an S2000. What is the preferred care/treatment for the top? I tried an archives search, but was unable to find the answer. TIA, Denton
  • njexpressnjexpress Posts: 170
    And, Congratulations on your S2K. The soft top is vinyl so, any good vinyl top (NOT CLOTH) cleaner and protectant is good - Just don't go with the 2 in 1 suff. I picked mine up at PepBoys. It comes in aerosol sprays and you apply the cleaner first, wipe it clean with a cotton towel, follow it up with the vinyl protectant.(My top is always down and the only two occasions I did need my top, I put the hard top back on. So far, in my 3 months of ownership, I have only cleaned the soft top once just for the fun of it- But, it did the trick nice and easy).

    Car washes for the S2K SOFT TOP are a no-no. It even says so on the manual. If you expose the joints and linings to presurized water jets, it will damage them.
    The other thing they do recommend is lubricating the joints with Shin-itsu grease, once every 3 months, depending on how frequently the top is used. (BUT HEY!! ;) Why would you wanna use it anyway unless you get stuck in a thunderstorm??? ;)
    Happy Motoring!
  • Habitat 1, thanks for your response and for adding a dose of sobriety to my car-buying thoughts. However, let me clarify my question.

    Driving the 997 S in the winter is certainly a no-no, unless the road is clean and without salt residuals. Replacing the Volvo with a Honda S 2000 is only an attempt to strike a balance between driving fun and reasonable winter season drivability at a reasonable cost. I keep my cars garaged, so it is only when parking at work (college campus) that I'm concerned about significant snow fall.

    Very seldom New York City experiences extreme snow accumulation to seriouisly interfere with driving low clearance sports cars. Roads are cleaned fairly rapidly as well. So my primary concern is the practicality (in terms of snow accumulation on soft-top and inside temprerature) of a convertible during frigid and snowy conditions. I think it is a doable, but not very comfortable proposition. In the final analysis, my question dealt with
    a highly subjective issue.

    By the way, I didn't sleep well last night and feeling tired chose to drive the Volvo to work. It was soooo comfortable and relaxing that I felt lucky to have an alternative to the more focused and intense 997. So perhaps I should keep these two opposite specimens until I retire to Florida, and then I may try the S 2000 for tracking purposes. No a bad choice for extending my "youth." Thanks again for your input.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Just out of curiosity, as a fellow 911 owner, what do you feel the S2000 would provide you in terms of driving enjoyment or experience that the 997 S doesn't?

    They are quite different, for sure, but for me they are both exceptional sports cars. There haven't really been any times that I've hopped in my 911 S that I wished I still had the S2000. I guess it helps that I have the Cabriolet. I assume you have a Coupe? I'm even considering signing up for the Porsche performance driving school. Not trying to extend my youth as much as my driving skills.
  • toydrivertoydriver Posts: 227
    I hope you don't mind my adding lip service to this question of winter driving the S2000.
    Living in MN, I choose to garage my "S" during the snow season. However, I know a few brave souls who manage to drive the S in the snow. The low ground clearance can be an issue during a heavy snow storm, but it's rapidly cleaned from the streets here too and so that rarely becomes an issue unless you find a side street that has been left unplowed.

    The other issue is the tires. I have replaced the oem tires with Yokohama Avid V4s. They aren't "track tires" but they do provide improved traction on wet streets and retain some pliability when temperatures drop below 40, unlike the oem's. They have a "V" speed rating, so they perform well on the streets. I've had the car up to 115mph without any tire issues.

    I start the engine and let it warm up outside periodically during it's storage months. The heater does a very good job keeping the cabin "toasty", when outside temps have been in single digits. The top is quite air-tight so I doubt if you would have an issue with cold temperatures with the top up in NY.

    I think you could manage to "live" with the S2000 as a daily driver in New York. As you mentioned, I think I would miss the comfort and safety that a larger car provides during bad weather and on those "lower energy" days.

    I like your final thought about using the S2000 as your Florida "winter car".
  • For the past 9 years, I have owned a set of two cars at a time. Each car fullfiling somewhat different goals.
    Specifically, the first set was a Corvette C5 and a 33O Ci BMW -- both coupes. The former driven when weather conditions did permit and the latter for all-season driving purposes. Both are drivers cars, but clearly one more versatile albeit less exciting than the other. Then last summer, following the same logic, I traded those for a 2006 997s coupe and a 2005 Volvo S 60 (stick) 4-dr. I love the comfort, safety, and looks of the Volvo, but if the S 2000 comes close to its all-season capability, then the exciting little Honda becomes a tempting proposition, "but only as a complement to the Carrera."

    P.S. When you get to my age, you will realize that extending your youth is more significant than doing the same with respect to your driving skills.

    Have you read Carl Lopez's "Going Faster: Mastering the Art of Race Driving"? Superbly written and with incisive details about the art and science of race car driving. It may be a good idea to read it before attending Porsche's driving event. I just got a copy from Amazon.
  • Toydriver,

    Thanks a lot for your generous and informative thoughts.
    I was particularly concerned about chilling temperature inside the cab on frigid days.

    I'm not sure yet, but I'm keeping myself entertained with the idea of getting an S 2000 to experience all-season driving fun. Yet I plan to retire within the next two years, so I may wait until I get to Florida to make a move. We shall see.

    Thanks again, and take care.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,419
    If you're ever house hunting in Florida and need someone to drive your 997 around, I'll be glad to offer my services...I live in Westchester ;)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguy,

    If you are an attractive female, I would take your offer. For the rest, sorry to inform you that I already have a place in Fl. But yes, the 997 S is pure fun to drive.
  • redsoxgirlredsoxgirl Posts: 67
    Your post was of interest to me. I have a 2003 Boxster S that is due to come off lease this fall. Since moving from Raleigh to Boston, and having only one parking space in my condo building, I am seriously contemplating going with a sport sedan or coupe in place of a sports car.

    My Boxster fared reasonably well this past mild winter. But of the numerous people I know with Boxsters and the three people I know with S2000's, none of them attempt to drive them year round in a New York / Boston style climate. Between the need for snow tires, low ground clearance, cold cabin (especially the S2000, with its minimalist top), etc., it would not make for a pleasant 20 mile commute in February. I seriously considered the S2000 when I got my Boxster in late 2002, but even though it is an exceptional sports car, I needed something that was a little more "friendly" to drive on a daily basis. I have just under 45,000 miles on my Boxster S in 44 months, and I travel 80-100 days a year.

    I am quite frustrated by this dilemma. I have yet to find a sport sedan or coupe that both excites me and will be a good year round car in Boston (with ski trips to Vermont.) The M3 comes closest, but would require winter tires (storage problem).

    If I were you, I'd be very happy that I have a heated two car garage that contains both a 911 and a Volvo for the winter / off days. :)
  • Thanks for your thoughtful words. I agree with you, the Volvo and the Carrera are a good match for my situation.

    I know exactly what you are going through. Unfortunately, driving high performance cars presupposes all kinds of trade-offs or compromises, particularly if one lives in challenging winter zones.

    Having only one parking space, you would either have to settle for a practical, reasonably sporty, front-wheel drive car or a well-designed rear-wheel drive alternative, and tackle the winter wheel/tire set storage problem. For someone coming from a superb machine like the Boxter, I suspect you would have go for the latter and be prepared to face the storage nuisance. Although not a "Boxster S," the M3 would also be at the top of my list. The only problem I have with the M3 -- all 3 series for that matter -- is the stirring wheel angle. The Porches and Corvettes, for example, allow drivers to set the stiring wheel almost perpendicularly. Not so the Bimmers. I had a 2004 300 Ci, drove it for 7,000 miles and never got used to it. Have you considered the Cayman?
  • midnightcowboymidnightcowboy Posts: 1,978
    I test drove the new MX5; nice replacement for the Miata. I also test drove the Mini S converible and 350Z convertible and I bought the S2000.

    I am very,very happy with the decision.

    Digital speedometer is very easy to get used to. It took me about 500 ft after leaving the dealer's lot.

    You can isntall aftermrket oil pressure guage if you want LOL.

    Learn to love digital and drive-on! Like the radio mute and volume adjust during driving. Also fan adjust during driving.

    Must get : Invidia exhaust !

    Motor On ( Double Sixes) ,

  • redsoxgirlredsoxgirl Posts: 67
    Unfortunately, the Cayman would have the same issues as my Boxster S - strictly 2 seater, low gound clearance, summer tires. I do not find the convertible top on the Boxster a problem in the winter, so trading a Boxster for a Cayman would not really do much for me. I like the way the Caymen drives, but I still prefer a roadster/convertible.

    I can afford a 911 C4 which I also briefly considered. But I would still have a tough time justifying it as an only car in Boston.

    In any event, we are pretty far off track from the "S2000", so I'll stop my personal ramblings. I may post over in the Porsche Boxster forum to find out what others have done in my situation that has kept them happy.
  • Just a couple of additional thoughts. It seems to me that the concern folks have about "low ground clearance" in the event of significant snow fall, is an exaggeration. Unless, of course, one lives in a zone where severe winter storms are the norm. In New York City and its vicinity, for example, if your car is garaged and the driveway is user-friendly, you should be able to drive your sports car in a matter of hours after heavy snow accumulation as the sanitation department clears up the main roads fairly rapidly. Besides, alternative public transportation is always there in case of extreme and/or prolonged foul weather. In my view, the pleasure of driving a genuine sports car overrides the potential impediments brought about by occasional winter storms.

    The same argument applies to the winter wheel/tire set storage problem. Granted it is a pain, but I would rather go through that inconvenience than compromise performance by way of a practical, front-wheel drive vehicle. Don't forget, it will be your only car.

    Given your evaluative criteria, I would suggest you keep taking a very close look at the M3. As I have said, the BMWs steering wheel angle (almost bus-like)is problematic to me, but most folks are not bothered by that incredible oversight. The M3 is also a bit overweight, yet as we all know, life is a trade-off.

    Good luck and best wishes.
  • Hi there,
    I would love some advise. I am in between a Subaru WRX STI or a 2006 S2000. I might move to colder climates soon and I can't decide which car would be a better fit.
    I love to drive open, but I also love the power of the WRX. Would you think you get tired of the acceleration and the power of a WRX vs the ability to drive top down? I also assume a S2000 would be safer and quicker in wet or snowy areas, since it comes with stability control.

    Please let me know your experience or opinions.

  • speedmanspeedman Posts: 3
    i had a wrx sti for about 9 months,here are the plus and minus of that great car.
    i like the look (Some dont)
    outstandind power
    beautifull dash
    good seat
    great tires
    nice sound

    the low
    very very rough ride
    lousy transmission
    very bad on gaz
    price to expensive
    if not on warranty, parts of subaru will kill you
    bottom line: a special car, that does nt match the can i explain you the differents.

    there is nothing that i dont like about my S.each time i sit in it i have a smile on my face,and wait to drive it,
    but for me it is strictly a summer car.i dont think that this was made for anything else,even if some people drive them.i respect there choice bur is not for me.
    it all depend of your situation.
    good luck with your decision
  • erikzerikz Posts: 1
    no mention of Honda discontinuing any models for 2007 during the expansion announcement today, guess S2000 is safe for another year.
  • njexpressnjexpress Posts: 170
    Hi Anythinbutgm,
    I just picked up 4 quarts of GM Syncromesh. It didn't say anything about HF.
    The parts # is 12345349. I got that info from Could you please confirm if this was what you used, if you still have this info??
    Thanks in advance!!
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