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Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)



  • I get your point, but I hope that you are wrong about the 05 Stang. Ford really needs to get this car right, and I am encouraged by the fact that Ford had the good taste to leave all of the fake scoops off the car, and to my knowledge the silly wing will be a delete option. Also, the standard wheels on the GT will be l7 inch with 55 series Pirelli tires, making this a fairly good travel car. I do not like rubberband tires as they only make the car ride like it has square wheels. So far all the info points to Ford really trying to put out a good car on job l. I hope. (:
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    Well it may be a delete option when you special order the car, but most Fords are pre-built into a number of option packages and you get the best deal if you take whats on the lot. How many GTs, that are not special customer orders, do you think will be built without a spoiler? I hope it's one of Ford's standard spec levels, but I'd bet the cars on the lots will all have them.
  • Spoilers are a delete option on the 2004 Mustang GT, but I have never seen one without one. The under 25 set likes spoilers and that's how they ship them.
  • I rarely can find a car on a lot equipped the way I want it, so if I have to order a GT and wait a few months to get a car without a rear wing, that works for me. I've learned the hard way that it doesn't pay to be one of the first to take delivery of a new model from Ford ;-)
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    How bout the body add-ons? Can you delete those off the GT? I think this car looks best unadorned.
  • What body addons? Are you talking about the new 2005 Mustang or the older 2004?
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    Yeah, I am talking about the 2005. Check out the GT vs the V6 mustang. The GT has extra body trim around both bumpers and the side rocker panels. IMO it looks better without it. If I could get a V6 body with a GT engine and suspension, I would be very happy.

    So does anyone know if you can delete them from a GT?
  • The GT appears to have different front and rear valances than the V6. I don't think they are "add-ons", I'd guess the two cars use totally different front and rear bumper covers. The side sills are probably add-ons, but my guess is they are going to end up on every GT. It's funny, but you have the same idea as me -- a car with the appearance of the V6, but with a V8 engine and running gear. I'd even be willing to accept the slightly smaller front brakes to get the 16" alloys that come with the V6. Oh well - Ford won't build it, so what's the point of wishing?
  • The front and rear bumpers on the 2005 Mustang are different from base to GT. It isn't an addon factor.

    Ford made them different because a ton of GT owners said they wanted their Mustangs to look different than the base V6 Mustang. Personally I prefer the way the 2005 GT looks over the base Mustang. I was just the opposite though when it came to the 87 - 93 Mustangs.
  • Anyone know when the 05 GT verts will be out ? Later than the coupes? I know the 94 vert was the first 94 I saw during that body changeover.
  • fdthirdfdthird Posts: 352
    I saw Feb 2005 as the date
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    February 2005 is when they will start building them. March or April 2005 is probably a better bet on when they'll hit the lots.

    Those dates are subject to change of course.
  • While I guess I am "jingiostic" as crispeegee says, he is not quite up on Ford car history. Right now nostalgia is selling before "sell-outs." I will not apologize for loving the 64-67 goats and not liking the fact that the new one is Australian whether they could/would be better or not. If you want to know how sought after the old goats are, just see how few were sold at the recent Jackson-Barrett auction. I would not buy a Mustang either if it was made anywhere else but in good old USA. No one was more excited than me at the prospect of having a GTO, but no thanks.
  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    I understand what you're saying, but your analogy doesn't necessarily follow...

    The fact that old GTOs are selling for large amounts at auction (when even sold) may or may not have to do with the fact that they were made in the USA. There are many variables that affect the price of classics (rarity when made, rarity now, engine choices, certain options, mythology, etc.), of which "made in the USA" is but one.

    You'd have to run a regression to really see what the effects of the different variables are.

    But the question I ask re Australian musclecars and their "authenticity" as such is - Ford and GM have been making Aussie musclecars for about as along as they've been making American ones. But to be a true GTO, it has to be assembled haphazardly and possess the shoddy build quality we assoctiate with Ford/GM domestic production???

    Interesting argument.
  • I'm not saying I love the GTO just because it was made in the USA, but it has a place in Americana. Pontiac is portraying honoring the GTO and my opinion is that don't take a car that already exists in Australia, work a few months to rush the new platform for it and expect us to embrace it. I know quite a bit about them since I researched them carefully to purchase one. I don't think I would refer to one as "shoddy."
  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    Agreed about the GTO's place as an American icon...definitely.

    My point is just that the Monaro is a very high-quality car (and yes, I've actually ridden in one in Australia) that manages to combine all the musclecar power you'd expect, with a *much* better fit, finish and feel than just about anything that comes out of Detroit (from any point in GM's history).

    It's also important to note I think that unlike Ford and GM here who are just now embracing the musclecar again, FordAus and Holden have been doing it for some time now. RWD cars with big engines are awesomely common down under...they even have a hugely (think NASCAR level) popular racing series called "V8 Supercars" that's akin to our TransAm Series, but with all the Holdens and Fords. The drivers do commericals for fast food joints... : )

    In a certain sense, Australian companies been more loyal to the musclecar than have the orginators. So I think it's more than appropriate that the new GTO be from Australia.

    If only GM/Ford would import more cars from Australia...but the UAW will see that that never happens.
  • Hope I can wait that long ..........
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    So an American icon is only american if it is assembled in the US?

    How far does your "built-in-the-USA" idealogy go?

    What if it was built in the US, but designed by a European team? How about if it was designed by an american living in a different country? What if the transmission was built in Asia, the steering-rack in europe, but the final assembly took place in the US? Would that be "American" enough?

    Cars of every market are engineered and designed by non-local people. In fact for ages these people have been jumping from company to company and country to country and have designed cars all over the world.

    The various parts for a single model are often built all over the world.

    Is "american made" really made in america enough to be called american these days?

    Do we have to break it down by percentages?

    Seems kinda silly doesn't it?
  • I am interested in the latest word about the 2005 Mustang, and all I read is people wanting the base model front and rear fascia, the spoiler as a delete option, and something about the old GTO and cars made in america.
  • Thanks for the disection - I'll continue to think of the 60s GTO's as American muscle power.
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