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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon

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  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    zagman..I am getting 21-23mpg in town. I have 1100 miles on the Limited.

    RONN
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    Hey JUST ME....thanks for the post. I actually almost bought the Chrysler 300 until I heard about the new Avalon. The 300 does have that special look about it, but I found the Avalon to be the favorite. The biggest comparison for me was the smooth ride of the Avalon and the interior look which I find to be of better quality. Also the fact that resale on Toyota is much better as well as reliability.
    When I read the reviews from folks who bought the Chrysler 300, it was scary as they were having many problems getting parts etc.and many were unhappy.
    Many post can turn people off, so I agree that we have to be very positive with the Avalon comments, because people do pay attention. I paid alot of attention to the reviews on the 300.

    RONN
  • gladiator99gladiator99 Posts: 104
    Good day guys!!
    It's Saturday so I thought I'd wash our new XLS. Thought I better check the exhaust pipes for alignment, and guess what? They are both hanging exactly the same. Maybe the Canadian Avalon's don't have the same problem. Next time I am near the dealers, I'll check a few more. I checked the date of manufacture and mine was built in Feb. so I will be able to wax it soon. I have been using a wax/polish called Eagle one Wet Look. This stuff is imported by Valvoline Canada, and really puts a shine on my previous TL and my 97 truck. I have not been able to get more of this stuff and was wondering if anyone out there had any recommendations on a 1 step wax/polish. Also checked my tire pressure and all were 34psi. just over the recommended pressure for the michelins on my car. The ride is very smooth at this pressure so I just left them as is. I am going to check some of the Canadian Auto accessory stores to see if I can get some bumper guards similar to the ones discussed here. Thanks for all the help guys. Have a great weekend.
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    gladiator99...I just bought some Eagle One Wax. I live in VA. and they sell it at an auto store called Advance. Don't know if you have one or not. Maybe they could ship it?

    Ronn
  • clipper1clipper1 Posts: 70
    Analitical: No not with Stadium.... The car I originally ordered was sold 30
    minutes after I told the VP to keep my deposit for the '06.-- Which is contrary to all your dealers... my contacts say early fall.-- Dealer was quite happy as my contract called for invoice +$1500.. (which now is toooooo much) --He sold the car at MSRP...hehe

    Anyone who pays MSRP or with a slight discount are not doing their homework.

    Work off invoice folks and keep it very LO
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    Hi RONN. The 300 Chrysler brochure doesn't give you any specifications regarding front/rear leg room, shoulder room etc. Strange.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Actually, the Chrysler 300 is not on topic here. If anyone is interested, a comparo could be fired up on our Sedans Comparisons board, but we need to move beyond that focus here in this discussion. Thanks.
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    Gladiator99, I went to my Dealer yesterday to lift the left Exhaust pipe which is now even with the right one. While waiting, I browsed around in their parts store and saw the Eagle one you spoke about, so check with your Toyota Dealer. I use Maguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax and it does an excellent job. It seems to work like the Toyo Guard. It was also recommended here when I asked about it. You can get it at Walmart, Autozone etc.
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    Sorry Pat, I was just refering to my earlier post. Thanks.
  • rwb2rwb2 Posts: 85
    24.7 mpg. combination freeway, city, to and from work. From the burbs to downtown Columbus, Ohio. 1,400 miles on the LTD. Regular gas -87 octane.
  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 335
    In 3,250 miles I'm averaging 25.4 mpg in mixed highway / city driving.

    MikeS.
  • Ok, so I'm going with the definition for Avalon is where King Arthur went to die, pass on, etc. It's a wonderful place to visit and now I have to figure out when I can move in!

    So I went on a test drive with the wife this afternoon. The Avalon easily exceeded all of my expectations and then some. It is a wonderful roomy vehical that handles very crisply yet says to everyone else on the road, "you wish you could afford this." Very very cool. OH and about that sound system in there...

    ...They had to take the thing in for a cleaning after the test drive, my drool was all over the the place! Primo system in that car. Excellent clarity and a breeze to use. The BONUS today was the wife is now voting my Audi off the island. So, this will definitely be the next car for me. I didn't start talking price today and all that fun for two reasons:

    1) Not ready just yet
    2) Would have killed the new car buzz I had going

    OH and to answer the leading question on the board right now... NONE of the tailpipes were uneven on the Avalons I looked at in the dealership's lot.

    BTW, for those of you who run into a push salesperson when you go looking at the Avalon... Just turn up the stereo. :P

    -LoUdSpEaKeR
    ...Still feelin' that buzz. :shades:
  • Good day guys!!
    It's Saturday so I thought I'd wash our new XLS. Thought I better check the exhaust pipes for alignment, and guess what? They are both hanging exactly the same. Maybe the Canadian Avalon's don't have the same problem. Next time I am near the dealers, I'll check a few more. I checked the date of manufacture and mine was built in Feb.


    Hello Gladiator99,

    I'm Glad for you, and for any others who own even-tailpiped Avalons on either side of the 49th Parallel. But the answer is elsewhere: my XLS is also Canadian. It was built in January, arrived Feb 28, delivered March 1. I'll be curious to hear from others as well.

    I was at the dealer's today to make an appointment to fix the misalignment. In my car the problem is minor, but in another XLS in their showroom it was very noticeable and I had a look under it today. Both tailpipes/mufflers are hung from identical short, rigid rubber mounts of oval shape. I don't see how they could adjust these mounts. The L pipe pointed a lot further downward and also inward (towards the license plate), compared to the R pipe. Either the left tailpipe(s) was (were) misaligned when built at the factory, or the paths of the R and L tailpipes are different (not likely). In my view, the rubber hammer will still be the simple solution, but I'll leave this up to the service dept. (to honour Ronn's concerns about warranty voiding!)

    By the way, as I was about to leave, they offfered to wash my Titanium XLS. Not that it looked like it needed it -- more likely, the service guy was looking forward to drive it a bit!

    have a good one, havalong
  • Welcome to Avalon, LoUdSpEaKeR! Very nice to hear that the sound system meets with your approval, this is good news for all of us and for Toyota, too. Just make sure to snap up one of those even-tailed specimens that you have checked out. Or, perhaps the factory has caught up with an early defect and is now delivering only truly flawless cars!

    best wishes,

    havalong
  • cafpafcafpaf Posts: 65
    I thought that several of you might get a hoot out of this. While we still have not taken delivery of our new Avalon Limited, today my wife told me that once it arrives if she is not driving she will only ride in the rear seat. When I asked why she said, "Because of the Avaloungers." It seems that is now what she calls the reclining seats in the rear. I had a great laugh and hope a lot of you will as well.
  • mark40mark40 Posts: 1
    Just purchased my Limited yesterday. Paid $1700 above dealer invoice. Dealer invoice included such things as holdback, but the price was still approx $2,200 under MSRP. Contacted the dealer through the MVCP program which my credit union belongs too.

    So far I am pretty happy with the car. I am constantly learning more things about the vehicle. Can't wait to ready the owners guide from cover to cover to see what else it does.

    Only one problem so far. The rear sun shade binds when it is lowered. Stopped by the dealer today. They tried lubing it, but no luck. They are ordering a new mechanism.
  • gladiator99gladiator99 Posts: 104
    Hi just me!
    Thanks for your suggestion. I went over to a local auto accessories store earlier and they had my eagle one polish and also meguiar's gold class clear coat liquid car wax. One of the employees behind the counter suggested the meguiar's as he said it was easier to apply and buff off. Well I tried it and it was very easy to use, and has a great shine to it. My car is the Blizzard white pearl so I had to really look from different angles to see if I had buffed out all the wax. It looks great. It is probably similar to the meguiar's that you use. Thanks again!!!!
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Agent, the "specials" don't foreshadow anything. These are the monthly incentives Toyota offers to the public in the form of cash back or special APR financing on certain vehicles. I can guarantee you there are no incentives on Avalon. Good luck selling your Jetta. :cry:
    :blush:
    Mackabee
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    Gladiator99, your welcome. My question is as follows. My XLS came with the 6 changer CD, and regular radio. I did not opt for the JBL 12 speakers. I am not deaf, and appreciate music, and to me what I have is wonderful. Maybe my ear for music isn't that critical? I had the JBL in my 04, and I really can't tell the difference, neither can my wife and she has an excellent ear for music and can carry a tone and also sings. She is also happy with it. So when people get the JBL with the 12 speakers I can appreciate it's even better, or as someone said awesome. What I don't understand unless someone is a concert pianist here like Horowitz, may his soul rest in peace, why would anyone take out the JBL and put something else in that supposedly is even better. I can only believe maybe one of of ten million would be that critically attuned to notice a difference. So can anyone shed some light on this for me. Isn't the JBL sound good enough??
  • morganffmorganff Posts: 6
    I just bought a 2005 Avalon Touring Edition on March 22, 2005. I test drove 2 Avalons before buying, found the steering in both to be perfectly fine. I bought the second one I drove. After 300 miles, it started pulling to the right. Two trips back to the dealer for alignment adjustments haven't solved the problem. It's going back in for a third look on Monday. Like most of you writing in, I'm all raves about the car (until this problem surfaced). Now I'm concerned I'm looking at the tip of a suspension iceberg problem with this vehicle. Anybody out there have any similar experiences or helpful advice?
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    LOUDspeaker...concrats on your liking the Avalon. We knew you would. Glad the stereo worked for you too!!! Poor Audi! :cry:
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    cafpaf........I think it is great news that your wife wishes to be riding in the back. After all, that's what a LIMO is for! RIGHT?
    LOL for awhile...that's great. Make sure to take a picture for us, and make sure her head is held high!

    RONN :)
  • rwb2rwb2 Posts: 85
    At the Columbus auto show last month a Toyota rep with a laptop said Toyota had a New brochure out on the Avalon. He informed me that the first one had some mistakes. He was taking names and addresses to send new ones. Some of the specs, he said were inaccurate in the first brochure. You may want a to order a new one from Toyota, not only for the correct specs but to see if they upgraded the appearance of the new brochure. Lexus' GS brochure is outstanding but its the second one produced too.
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    Hey JUST ME......In response to your radio question, I do have the 12 speakers in the Limited, and wow what a sound! As I have said before, I am a musician and I have several CD's of myself from programs and concerts I have done. I listen to them so I can see what needs to be changed or done differently when I perform.
    I want a quality sound that will help me to hear, and the JBL works for me.
    As someone posted earlier, many of the settings such as bass etc. have to be set to the persons liking, so I messed with the adjustments to get it just right. Lots of bass I love!!

    RONN
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    IMHO, I know Toyota will take care of you, if not post that here and I'm sure we can give you good advise. It will be worked out. Know I never had that problem with any of my Avalons, I had that problem once with a Mazda, and it was never 100%. Your Avalon will be,I believe that whole heartily. Take a drive with the service department let him see while your in the car. Good night for now.
  • gladiator99gladiator99 Posts: 104
    Hi Just me!!
    My Avalon ordered with option B has the 12 speaker JBL surround sound system and I think it sounds great, but you may have to set the balance, fade, bass and treble, to your liking. My wife doesn't like the system too loud so I can only pump it up when I'm alone, then you can really appreciate the power of this system. I am sure there are better speakers on the market but the stock ones seem to be good enough for my ears. It's funny how your car runs better and sounds better right after you wash and wax it. L.O.L. Take Care!!!
  • alan_salan_s Posts: 356
    1. Check the tire pressures. I bought a new Maxima in 94 and it was pulling to the right. I took it to the dealer for alignment a few times to no avail. I eventually discovered that the tire pressures were 40psi! When corrected, the Max no longer pulled. Apparently dealers forget to check the obvious.

    2. Tires may be the problem. Toyota have experienced a lot of problems with previous model Avalons and current Camrys pulling to the LEFT when fitted with Continentals. I had this very problem with my '02 Avalon until I chucked the Continentals in favor of Bridgestone LSH's. You either have Bridgestones or Michelins, but try moving the tires around and see if the pulling corrects itself or changes. There may be a defect in one or more of the tires.
    If the car is pulling to the right, the front right or rear right may be underinflated, or the front left or rear left overinflated. These conditions cause a change in the rolling circumference which causes "steer" in favor of the wheel that has a smaller rolling circumference. If the tires are all overinflated, then the vehicle tends to become very sensitive to road angle and road crown, and may pull to the right in the right hand lane and to the left in the left lane. If alignment is out, the steering wheel can be off center as well as the car pulling to left or right.

    3. Take the car to a Bridgestone or Michelin dealer (depending on the brand of tire). They will check the tires under warranty for any defects, out of round or other problems. They may check the alignment for free and give you a report if they believe the tires are good, or offer to do an alignment for about $40. In my experience, tire dealers are much better at resolving these kind of problems than regular dealers. If they charge you for the alignment and it resolves the problem, take the bill back to the Toyota dealer and ask the service manager for a refund. You stand a good chance of getting your $40 back, if they failed to correct the problem themselves.

    4. When new vehicles are transported, they are tied down during transit by chains which may bend suspension components if too tight. This can also cause pulling problems. You need to eliminate the tires as the cause first.
  • jmarlinjmarlin Posts: 7
    Anyone have any tips!

    Thanks
  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 335
    Tips, on what? Some more info, please?

    MikeS.
  • toyava03toyava03 Posts: 4
    Hi morganff,

    Hope you have better luck with solving your pull problem than I had and still have with my 03. The new Avalons overall appear to be great cars and I hope you don't have my problem. The long missive that follows is actually the short story! Lesson I learned is that even a competent and honest dealership might not be able to solve the problem and don't depend on your Toyota region or "independent arbitration" folks either.

    After the first few hundred miIes I noticed my new Avalon had a definite pull to the left on the slightest road crown to the left. The slight, but constant pressure I had to keep on the steering wheel during my first three hour trip, much of it in the left lane, was felt in my upper arm that evening. On a perfectly flat road it always tracked straight (and still does). There was a very slight pull to the right on a road crown to the right.

    Took it back to dealer who said it was "slightly" out of alignment. They tried to correct it. But it still had the problem. Had tires rotated, inflation checked, etc. Tires not the problem. Second try the dealer did a four wheel alignment and said it was now within specs. Still pulled to the left excessively. So I tried to live with it for 4 months. An otherwise excellent car was undriveable for more than a few hours on the highway! Took it to a well-qualified independent alignment shop. They confirmed the problem and said they could probably fix it but it would take some time and several hundred dollars. Took that report back to Toyota dealership and they tried a third time to fix it. Still couldn't correct the problem. So dealer said it was okay for independent shop to work on it. The independent expert basically changed the caster and after a number of test drives and tweaks, he minimized the left pull so that it equalled the slight pull to the right. (Toyota reimbursed me for the independent shop's costs.) The car was now driveable although I still had a question: "Do all Avalons have this slight pull on any road crown."

    Four month later I actually met with a Toyota regional tech rep who drove the car for an hour on various roads. He said, "Yep, it's okay and that's exactly how they all drive." I was prepared to live with that. Then, being a friendly, helpful fellow he took it into the local dealer's shop to get the actual measurements so that I could give them to any alignment shop in the future. That's when everything fell apart. He said the alignment was outside of specs and "might cause future problems." But he would give the local Toyota techs specific instructions and the result might make the car "drive even better." Naturally I let them work on it. Well, it was a week later when I got the car back. They had changed the front struts, other parts, and even the front subframe. The result was that the car was "within specs" but now had the original problem -- a pull to the left again.!

    The Toyota region said they would not do anything more. So I went to arbitration asking that Toyota replace the car or buy it back. The arbitration panel turned me down. They wrote that they had considered my state's lemon laws, etc., and that the car was still under warrantee. They apparently ignored my cover letter that explained what had transpired, that Toyota wouldn't work on it anymore, and that the car was undriveable on most highways. The arbitration folks could not force Toyota to do any warrantee work!

    In fact, I could have gone the lemon law route and, according to a superb local consumer law firm, would have won and Toyota would have been forced to buy back the car and pay my legal fees. Only problem was that it would have dragged on for months before I got my judgement. In the meantime I would have an undriveable car for a second summer. Went to two more independent alignment shops who confirmed the problem Back to the original independent shop who did the same work again and it cost me several hundred dollars which Toyota wont reimburse. The car pull to the left is now is normal but the pull to the right is greater than before. I can see having it in for a readjustment several times a year, depending on what kind of roads I'll be on.

    As I said, this is my short version and I apologize for it being so long. I learned a big lesson. Even if the auto folks mean well, it can still cost you much time and money. The various state lemon laws came about for a very good reason and I will certainly go that route if I have the same experience with my 2005/6 Avalon should I buy one.
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