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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon

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  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    would think (don't know) that anything different required to make the light work would be contained within the light assembly itself. It only makes sense. On a production line, they should be setting up the frame/engine assemblies to morph into whatever trim they are going to produce at that time. So things like interior assemblies are switched out if the line is to produce Ltds. instead of XL's or whatever. The interiors should install very close to the same manner regardless of trim. Same thing, I'm guessing, for the headlights - just can't imagine they reengineer anything too substantial to simply switch some halogens out for xenons. It would cost them too much!
  • In my opinion, some of the posts are overly critical! I have one of the first 05 Limiteds, I took delivery in March and now have 12,000 miles on it. This is my evaluation.

    I initially experienced the transmission hesitation. However, this has long since gone away. The transmission seems to work flawlessly. Everything else is working fine.
    The car is very smooth and comfortable, gets great gas mileage (for a large car). I really don't have any complaints. There are some things that would be nice to have such as the backup warning system but one has to be realistic and remember that this is not advertised nor priced as a luxury car!! Overall it's a much better value than the 03
    Acura MDX that I came out of!! I consider it a better car than the Acura. :)
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    see post 10242, sounds a lot like what hutch is talking about as well. Am very happy with my April 05 Touring that now has 17k. The only 'problem' I can see with it all has to do with the electronic control systems, and I think the jury is still out on how Toyota handles them. Took a ride yesterday in a friend's MB ML350 - probably $60k - and you know what - the new 6 speed transmission does the same thing - hesitates briefly while searching for a gear especially from lower speeds. I have found the 'problem' to be something I can anticipate, and I do modify my driving style slightly to compensate for this electronic interference. If you are looking for a large luxury sedan, I'll put the Avalon against anything on the road in its price category. I didn't expect it to be a Lexus LS - but it comes pretty darn close - at about half the price.
  • n0v8orn0v8or Posts: 169
    gbinplano has done the reverse camera installation you described. Do a search for all of his posts to this forum.

    I don't think the specific camera he used is available any longer; the vendor seems have gone under. But there are suitable cameras available from eBay vendors.

    Based on his posted info, I am planning to replicate gbinplano's installation during the Christmas holidays period. The parts are on order. Total parts cost will be less than $350.
  • joe369joe369 Posts: 61
    How does the new avalon compare in terms of interior road noise, wind noise, engine noise?
  • 3puttmax3puttmax Posts: 119
    How does the new avalon compare in terms of interior road noise, wind noise, engine noise?

    joe369 -

    I have a 2000 Avalon XLS, and a 2005 Avalon Limited. Drive both of them all the time. I don't notice any significant difference between the 2 in terms of noise. Others in this forum have complained about how noisy the new engine is, but I just don't hear that.

    The new car has a slightly stiffer ride, and stiffer seats (in the Limited at least). I've driven both on day-long trips (12 hours), and both leave me feeling fine, no back problems.

    Max
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Can't really say about other and later models but my 2001 RX300 has HIDs and the ECU that controls the auto-leveling is under the dash by the stearing column. Mine also has a sensor on the rear axle to sense load weight and adjust the HID leveling accordingly.

    Not a simple upgrade.
  • I've driven one 1997 (XL) and two 2001 Avalons (XLS), and I agree with 3puttmax.

    In terms of noise level, the new one (2005 Ltd) is louder at start-up, but once the engine revs down (after about a minute or two), it's hardly noticeable. There were comments in this forum about how the soundproofing isn't as good as before, but I actually think my 2005 is much quieter than my old 2001 and 1997. Try rolling down the driver-side window and you'll notice the SIGNIFICANT difference.

    The ride is definitely stiffer in 2005, but I kind of like it as it gives me more feel and allows for tighter cornering.

    In my opinion, wind noise is less noticeable in 2005 than in 2001, especially that due to the side mirrors at freeway speed.
  • Personally, I don't think the new Avalon is any louder than before. My family has owned a 1997 and two 2001, and my new 2005 is just as quiet, if not quieter at freeway speed.

    The noise is most likely NOT due to the dual exhause pipes as they are faux. If you look under the car, you can see that the one exhause pipe simply gets split into two near the end. There is no optimization done in the exhaust system like some other cars.

    I haven't had any problem with engine start-up.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Hi folks. I would like to make my "official" announcement on this board since it's the last one I have made many contributions to. I've decided in the interest of my health to get out of the car business. I no longer have the passion I once did and I would be doing a great disservice to my current and future customers. If in the future I decide to come back I will certainly let you know.
    Your friend,
    Mackabee
  • joe369joe369 Posts: 61
    The engine is loud indeed. What worries me is that the engine on the virtually new avalon is louder than the one on my 1998 mercury sable with over 100k miles on its belt.

    Maybe the wind noise I'm hearing is due to the lack of the sound reducing windshield on the limited (I have an XLS).

    The wind noise doesnt sound abnormal as would be caused by a missing rubber stripping, but is louder than I expected after reading all the reviews about the relative quietness of the Avalon. Our oldest car, a 1992 Mercury Grand Marquis with over 200k miles seems quieter at highway speeds than the avalon! :confuse: :cry:
  • I use to use the Rain-X treatment but it did become a little of a pain in the butt to wipe it off/in totally. I left streaks and distortion that I just couldn't get total ride of. Then I discovered the Rain-X has recently started making washer fluid that is premix with the rain-X solution. The result is every time you use your windshield washer you get a Windex type washer fluid with rain-x mixed in. It works wonders. No more streak an I never really have to go through the pain of reapplying. I guess the mixture is just right.
  • zekeman1zekeman1 Posts: 422
    Your contribution(s) and professional insight will very much be missed. Our very best to you with your health situation.
    zekeman1
  • Mike, it hurt to look at that photo and I hope the damage isn't too bad. My 5 month old Avy has been through 4 major hurricanes here in Florida and I worried more about the car than my house. Hope your insurance covers wind damage.
    Island Avy :cry:
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    been several years since such a close call, but this sure did reinforce my favorable view of my Avalon:
    rush hour, 2 lane highway at dusk, dry roads. Traffic is heavy but moving 60-65 cars maybe 60 feet apart. I am in the left lane and notice a car attemting to merge onto the highway (from the right) at maybe 30 mph. The car turns out to be a Civic and has a long line of impatient cars behind her attempting to do the same thing. By the time I reach the entrance ramp, the car immediately behind the Honda, a beat up Sunfire decides he has had enough of this and decides to swerve into the left lane to try to get by. Except, of course, that is exactly where I am! So I nail the accelerator and swerve onto to paved left shoulder kicking up a little dirt as I did and had my Av up to maybe 85 or 90 in a hurry - just fast enough to clear the Sunfire by maybe 10 or 12 feet because I had to swerve back into the lane in which I started because of an approaching bridge that narrowed the shoulder. Ended up being a 6 car accident though with other folks rear ending both the Sunfire, the Honda, and each other. One driver off in an ambulance but thankfully it did not seem that anybody seriously hurt. Would not have been able to do this without that good old fashioned HP in our Avs, and would not have wanted to try it arguing with the VSC system I don't have.
    I did stop up the road a ways after all this ostensibly to render aid, but instead gave the cops a statement, and watched them write a couple of tickets, amidst the 14 tow trucks that showed up for 6 cars. A sad commentary on the times - the Sunfire driver - no insurance - so unfortunately I guess I will end up being a 'star' witness as everybody decides to sue everybody else, and the lawyers get rich from the multitudes of mysterious injuries... Probably take years, better keep this posting so I can recount what happened 5 years from now?
  • To offer my observations as a three time (00, 03 and now 06) Avalon owner.....
    I do agree that there seems to be more low speed engine "noise" or as I call it a pleasant sounding "growl". I also notice a little stiffer ride as well but I think the trade off is more secure handling and steering balance compared to earlier Avalons. Overall quietness at highway speeds is very impressive. With 2,900 miles so far, I have experienced none of the often mentioned "problem areas" with the exception of fog lights that are not as tight as I think they should be. Perhaps my rear is different than most but I find my limited seats with their adjustability extremely comfortable. Also of note, in mixed driving, I am currently averaging 25.0 to 26.5 MPG. My Avalon is 2006 Limited, Phantom Grey with Ivory leather, VSC Stability control, All weather floor mats, XM satellite radio, body color siide mouldings. As fond as I was of my previous Avalons, they lacked the pizzaz both inside and out that this new one has. No one ever commented on my Avalons until this one!!
  • finfin atlantaPosts: 589
    BEST WISHES, mackabee, for the future, whatever it holds. Your comments and information have been helpful to many on these boards. We all assume you will drive into the Edmunds.com Avalon automotive sunset in an '06 Limited w/ laser cruise, nav, etc.... :)
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 112
    I have an 05 LTD which replaced a 99 XLS that I loved. I find the 05 quieter inside. I hear no difference in the engine noise. The 05 wins hands down in terms of power & smoothness of ride. IMO, the 05 is a much more substantial vehicle.
  • jeffm5jeffm5 Posts: 112
    I've owned an 05 LTD since July & have about 8500 miles on it. The only "problem" I've had is a mud shield that came loose under a rear wheel well after running over some debris in the road. Dealer fixed it as warranty work. I've had no transmission or hesitation problems. Very powerful car that provides a smooth, quiet ride with good gas mileage. I also considered & test drove a Caddy CTS, Acura TL & Lexus GS 330. All were fine cars, but I'm very happy with my decision.
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    Mackabee, you will definitely be missed. Thank you so much for all your input. Please continue on the path to health. I hope you are getting better since we last emailed one another. I wish you the very best and have said the prayers for you. Bye my friend.
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    I have over 12,500 miles and have the same experience you do. It's an awesome car. Enjoy it as I know you are.
  • angeange Posts: 158
    Our limited is 6 monthd old. We find road noise is low. Sometimes on rough pavement there is a noticable noise. No wind noise at all. The engine is noiser than my crown victoria was with 183,000 miles. I am not worried as I plan to let toyota do the service and I have the 100,000 mile package. Driving on a smooth road, at about 60 mph, you can't find a quiter car.

    When I test drove the dealer's 2005 limited I noticed there was an engine roar when you hit the throttle. I decided to accept this. While this is noticable it is livable. Why didn't toyota install headers on the engine? This might reduce engine noise and increase horsepower. Maybe they will do this later to recover the HP they advertised in their literature and car window stickers.I still am unhappy about their origional HP measurements they used.

    Ford had boasted about a quiter dual exhaust with headers and they were right. Their main muffler had an unusual rectangular shape that was tapered in the middle.

    The windshield does have some sound reducing benefit. You notice the sound of the rain making a slight sleet sound. I am not sure this is a benefit. I can't notice any other noise reducing, if does happen. ange1
  • Oh...oh....oh...your poor car! I have the '06 Avy Ltd in the same color and I know how I felt when someone rear-ended me and pushed me into the car in front of me when my Avy was only 2 months old! I just got my car out of the shop and they did a great job. Hope yours does ok!
  • retired7retired7 Posts: 133
    I own a '96 XLS w/142K miles and a 05 Ltd w/14K miles. Both are garaged and well taken care of. The 4 speed tranny on XLS is less agressive to throttle responses. Engine on both are quite and smooth. The 191 horse XLS can't hold a candle to the 280/268 horse Ltd. The Ltd is much more of a car and I feel I can run with the big boys w/the 3.5L engine on premium fuel. The leather seats on the XLS are more comfortable than the Ltd but love that seat heater in 30 deg weather. Rear and side visibility is much better on XLS and need to be more careful with the Ltd when backing out of parking spaces and pulling out to pass. We use the XLS for town driving and the Ltd for long trips. The Ltd is a revolutionaly advancement over the XLS.
  • Does anyone know a part number or where to get a front license holder? I don't want the plate to be directly on the bumper (may scratch up the paint, etc.)
  • 06ltd06ltd Posts: 25
    I've used it on my wife's'06 Limited and it works just fine. Be thorough in buffing it off and you should do well with it, too. I find that I need the wipers at low speeds when there's insufficient wind, but at higher speeds the wind blows the water off the windshield sufficiently well that wipers are unnecessary. Sometimes, people riding with me who don't know about it get spooked when I don't use the wipers. I use it on all the glass on all my cars.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    What an experience! Glad you and your Avalon are okay.
  • Great detail and instructions on installing Awell. I have a question. From pictures it looks like you have Blizard Pearl Avalon, if so, what color and model Awell did you use and how well did color match?
  • n0v8orn0v8or Posts: 169
    dclee12 . . . see message #9095 on this forum for the part number.
    Dealer's in my area quoted $20 for the "official Toyota" bracket (must be gold plated), so I purchased a nice plastic universal bracket for $5 at a local auto store. The universal bracket provides the flexibility to align the plate vertically much better than the factory one does.
  • n0v8orn0v8or Posts: 169
    The photos are misleading because it was a bright sunny day. I have Titanium Silver so used the silver sensors. Blizzard Pearl may be more of a challenge to match.
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