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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon



  • rjeokrjeok Posts: 7
    I have a Garmin portable Nav system (Street Pilot III) that we use in our other car. I have noticed that the nav system on my 05 Avalon does not compute a route as well as the Garmin, and the Avalon nav system frequently takes us out of our way.

    A good example is when we bought the Avalon at Autofair in New Hampshire the Garmin computed a route back to our home in Ct of 187 miles; the Avalon Nav system computed a route of 210 miles (quick was selected).

    There are alot of similar examples, do other people have similar problems???
  • Since you mentioned that quick was selected -- quick will not be the shortest route, it will be what the nav thinks in the fastest. Think of the difference between winding mountain roads through small villages with stop lights versus the super highway going around the mountains. The highway may be longer but quicker.

    That said, there is a definite difference between different nav system's calculations. Our Honda sometimes takes you a wierd sight seeing tours that are obvioulsy rediculous. Garmin (original Street Pilot in my case) was pretty good 95% of the time, and had excellent prompts (directions) as you went. I probably like the Toyota the least. But what choice do you have, eh?! I like built-in much better than tacked on.

    Did you see the blurb on the internet a few months ago where the European version of MS's Streets and Trips took people on something like a 200 mile trip, traveling off an island, onto mainland, and then back on again from another angle in order to reach a town that was like 20 miles away on the same island?! I may have the numbers wrong, but the core story is correct. It was hilarious!

  • ejmannejmann Posts: 12
    I too have an XLS with similar features. Love the car except for the remote start. It has a VERY limited range. Mine only works from about 50-75 feet away. My aftermarket unit on our 04 Highlander is MUCH better. Plus, the factory unit on my Avalon requires you to shut off the engine before you can enter the vehicle. The remote starter is POORLY designed. Otherwise enjoy the new car.
  • paulexpaulex Posts: 16
    ejmann - I remember reading on that the range for the starter is 80 ft. Your numbers do sound a bit low. Is there a lot of interference that could be causing this?

    I am still waiting for my car - the dealer told me it is invoiced...they just don't know where it is? I have been hearing "any minute now" since Monday. I can hardly stand the wait! I will post back with any findings on my remote starter.

  • parks1parks1 Posts: 5
    I just completed ~2500 miles. I notice that the steering "feel" seems light. I am used to a tighter & heavier feel. Does anyone feel the same?
    I find the car a joy to drive. I have a few annoyances but nothing to question my choice.
    There is noticeable distortion in the rear window. I miss a place to put loose change like a small change drawer. I am regularly cleaning a haze off the interior windows. I assume this will get better when the new materials stop out gassing.

    If I had to do it again, I would definite choose this car. :)
  • I also have distortion in my rear window. I am taking it to show the dealer because I want it replaced. I look at cars behind me and depending on where I look they can look like SUV's or odd shaped cars. It doesn't make sense why their window would be like that. I have never had a car with distorted windows like that.
  • jickajicka Posts: 38
    Come ON! How often do you look at your rearview mirror? My Ltd's back light is distorted too. So what? I do not regularly drive long distances in reverse. Think about the possible screw ups by the techs that replace that glass. I have a hunch that you'll have a LOT of complaints about the replacement and its installation.
  • parks1--I also have a cloudy haze on the interior windshield amd back window. No matter what cleaner I use, the window never seems clean. Does anyone out there have suggestions on keeping interior windows sparkling clean? What window cleaners are best? My LTD is 1 1/2 months old and otherwise perfect.
    Island Avy :shades:
  • Timely comments, parks1 and islandavy. I noticed the same in the past couple of weeks (after almost 6 months of ownership). Windex doesn't take this haze off. It does seem to go away while the defroster and rear window heater are on, but it is not just a moisture problem, there is a residue that is hard to remove.

  • angeange Posts: 158
    I have had several cars with rear window distortion. It is not uncommon. My other cars had short and sorta flatten autos following me down the road. My Limited has some distortion, but the window is high in the rear and the glass is narrow. The visibility is poor so I use the mirrors. I am beginning to accept all cars are not perfect to all owners. I had high hopes for the Avalon when I was reading all the ads and surveys. I guess a snapshot sometimes imparts a good impression and later with time the overall picture looks different. ange1
  • gwsgws Posts: 67
    "I think it would be interesting to get feedback on real-world fuel consumption. How about everyone post their miles and average mpg so we can get an idea?"

    At about 325 miles, I refilled the tank for the first time and calculated 36 mpg following break-in care (speed changes, mostly rural driving). After a further 300 or so miles of virtually all city use, the calculation was 31 mpg. I did convert from litres per 100 kilometres to miles per Imperial gallons (20 percent larger than those US ones).
  • To those who would be inclined to just pass-off a distorted rear window, I would ask a few questions:

    1. Do you seriously think Toyota would pull this on a Japanese customer at home?

    2 Does anyone really think that the public in Japan would let Toyota get away with this?

    3. Why should anyone be willing to pay $35,000+ for a car with a sub-standard part?

    4. Suppose your local Toyota salesman said, "Hi, Charlie! How would you like to buy a new Toyota Limited with a distorted rear window?" Are you telling us that you wouldn't be insulted by such an offer?
  • barclay3barclay3 Posts: 90
    Alan...Mine is exactly the same as you at 16.8 mpg consistently for the past few fill ups city driving.

    My dealer installed a new radio cover today replacing the broken one that got stuck closed. They also replaced a damaged visor.
  • buck11buck11 Posts: 30
    I might be insulted but I surely wouldn't be anal. It's just a car people. Get over it. Mistakes are made and life goes on. Again, "IT'S JUST A CAR". You think that 40 and even 50K plus cars don't have problems? Get real!!!
  • zekeman1zekeman1 Posts: 422
    54gradsteds - curious, do you own either an 05 or 06 Avalon? Noting some of your recent posts, you commented on sloppy workmanship, laser lens issues, lack of foldable mirrors and now the problems with the distorted rear windows. Would you not agree that the best way to pursue getting corporate Toyota to address these issues would be to encourage written complaints versus beating the drum via an internet blog? I would really hope that the myriad of complaints (some rather picayune) that I've read on this board are seriously addressed in writing, rather than public whining about them - it's the only way something might get done.
  • barclay3barclay3 Posts: 90
    I have the same haze on the front and back windows too and it's worse on hot humid days. Also my glasses haze up a lot when I get out of the car on hot humid days. I don't remember this happening with my other cars. Any relationship?
  • easyrider300measyrider300m Posts: 1,116
    The best glass cleaning product I have used is "Stoners" glass cleaner sold at auto parts stores like Pepboys and Autozone. I just used crumpled up newspaper. If the glass if very dirty, it might be necessary to apply and remove the product twice. Works great for me with no residue and it cuts through the grime. It's much superior to Windex or similar products imho.
  • nimiminimimi Posts: 249
    Make sure that you use a window cleaning fluid that does not have AMMONIA as it will remove the tinting from the glass.
  • Perhaps there is a defect in the interior finish materials. They might be 'outgassing' at a heavy rate in your Avalon. This outgassing could precipitate on your glasses and then coagulate when they are subjected to a sharp temperature or humidity change when you go outside. The coagulation might cause a hazing that you see.

    If you can, get a friend on relative that has contact lenses to try a ride in your Avalon. If their contacts 'haze' over, then you might have a safety issue that you could register with the NTSB and the National Association of Contact Lenses Manufacturers.
  • zekeman1zekeman1 Posts: 422
    My glasses always haze up when I get out of an air conditioned car into the hot humid weather. Same thing happens when I come out of a cold, air conditioned store into the hot weather. I seem to remember something about that weird happening in science class.
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