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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon



  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Ok guys, seriously now. Production is still at the TMMK in Kentucky. I was just trying to lighten things up! Toyota has spoiled us with their great products throughout the years that we have come to expect nothing but perfection on their vehicles and when there is a defect or defects we cry FOUL! I went through the same thing with our 92 Camry. After owning a Celica and then the Toyota Vanwagon LE which gave us years of trouble free service we bought the made in Kentucky Camry. I thought "Hmm an American Toyota. I bet the car is not the same as the ones made in Japan." It was a first year model and I had always heard about first year models having "bugs that needed to be worked out" etc..etc. And so I the seed had been planted and I started looking for defects and I found them. The first was an annoying glove compartment door that would suddenly pop open when going over rough pavement or bumps. Engine mounts that sounded like I stepped on our house dog, and a gas cap holder, not the gas cover but the holder inside the door that broke off the first time I filled the tank with gas. I made a list and headed to my nearest Toyota dealer which by the way was not the one where I had purchased the car at and they fixed everything for me with a smile on their face. After these "defects" were fixed all we did was the normal maintenance and the car was trouble free until some guy decided to fall asleep at the wheel and rear ended my wife and caused a four car pile up in the middle of rush hour traffic one summer evening about four years ago. My point is if you go looking for defects you will probably find them in any car first year or not. No car is perfect although Toyota manufacturing is striving for that. Until that day gets here, vehicles will come with warranties, written and implied so that any defects will be corrected and the vehicle works as advertised. I always try my best to inform Edmund's readers and forum members about Toyota vehicles and also inject some levity once in while so that we can step back and look at ourselves in a different light and realize that maybe things aren't as bad as they seem. Everyone have a great Labor day weekend, enjoy your families and your time off and be safe.
  • If the streets are too close together, it could show your car on the wrong street. In my nav on my 300M, I put an address that I pass just before arriving home as my home address. I just as soon not have my home address stored in the NAV for security reasons. So why not do the same--just plug in a nearby address that you pass on your way home (so that it would say that you have arrrived at your destination.) There's no need to buy the costly update just to get your home address recognized.
  • Thanks Greg. Yup, looked @ pages 368-369 and there it is just like you said. I'll show it to the dealer tomorrow as their previous response was they couldn't be adjusted!

  • >> I just as soon not have my home address stored in the NAV for security reasons

    You know. I do the same thing.

    But then I realize that most of us have our home address in the car registration slip in our glove box. :surprise: :P

  • algeealgee Posts: 77
    Any idea how to safely remove the XM antenna (factory installed)?

    I'm going to either move it or change to a Terk and put it either above the rear window or mid trunk at the rear window.

    I'm told the XM reciever is in the trunk---anyone know for sure where it is?

    Thanks all for the great group and in advance for the help

    Oh, heres another question. Do you notice (if you were a previous Buick owner) that the ride is harsher on the Avalon? Guess I'm used to the softer suspension.

    I almost belive they mislabeled my car and its a touring model :-)
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    actually I am. Leased 2 trucks both Chevys for my company in 1999 through a leasing co. Glesby Marks here in Houston. Glesby had a supply deal with a dealer and did get some good 'prices' on both. I drive a lot of miles - so standard leases as outlined in my previous post would be even more ridiculous. Glesby owned the vehicle for the entirety of the lease - the payments being very high due to the lease duration (example: 36 months at $1100.00+ tax/mo. on a Suburban for $31K 'purchase price' and the interest rates (almost double bank rates). This was an 'operating lease' so there was nothing due Glesby at the end of the lease - but there was a rub. The company expenses the entire value of the vehicle with the lease payments so therefore, any remaining value at the end of the lease (noted on Glesby's transfer of title to my company) of the trucks became a taxable capital gain for the company. If your co. turns around and 'gives' you the car they can write off the gain but you have taxable income. Since your Avy will probably be worth $20k+ at that time and if you/your company are going to be straight with the IRS, you will have to address this and also work out a way (if you are in Texas) to pay the sales taxes twice. Did not do this again because bottom line the trucks did end up costing more - more than compensating for that initial 'great price'. 'Commercial' leases are indeed different - but there are no free lunchs! Would guess that you could not pay cash to this leasing co., actually buying for the car for the price they are 'selling ' it to you.
  • Just to remind everyone that photos of my 05 Limited chromed wheels are seen in posts 5275 and 5287. I paid $700 for these, vs dealer quote for $1000. While I would really rather have custom 18 inch wheels with fewer spokes, I didn't want to switch tires. I'm sure living in LA helps, plenty of tire-rim stores around, so getting swap-out wheels was no problem.

    One bonus of having chromed rims is that they never get dirty. The brake dust doesn't adhere to the wheel. I have them on my 2000 Avalon XLS also.

  • I have successfully integrated a backup camera into my NAV system. It automatically replaces the navigation information whenever the transmission is in reverse. It provides an unobstructed wide angle field of view. Here's how I did it:

    I obtained a Viewtech video controller here -

    I obtained a reverse image camera here -

    To install, I used 22-18ga vampire splices to connect the controller and camera to the Avalon's wiring. I used grommets and silicone to seal the hole in the trunk needed to pass the camera wires.

    Remove the rear license plate to provide access to the rear of the bumper housing. Remove the plastic covering in the back of the trunk by pulling the bottom toward the front of the car to undo the push retainers that attach it. Then, pull upward on it to remove the remaining push retainers. Remove the driver's side trunk panel by removing the two round retainers and then the panel. The navigation controller is anchored with three 10mm bolts. The wiring cover on the back of the controller unhooks to provide access to the connectors.

    I used a 1" forstner bit to drill the hole for the camera. I put the camera about 1" below the overhang for the license plate area and centered between the license plate and the bumper. I drilled a 3/8" hole in the sloping area on the back of the trunk to pass the camera's power and video cables. Use a 3/8" grommet in the hole to protect the camera cables. After passing the camera cables through the grommet, fill the space between the cables and the grommet with silicone sealant (I used black, but clear or any color will work).

    I connected the Viewtech controller and reverse image camera to existing wires terminating at the 18 pin connector to the navigation ECU (rear-most connector). I used splices (vampires) to connect the camera +12V to the Viewtech +12V red wire; and the camera ground wire to the Viewtech gnd black wire. I spliced the Viewtech +12V red wire to the red wire in in position 9 of the 18 pin connector; the Viewtech gnd black wire to the gray wire in position 1; and the Viewtech backup gray wire to the black wire in position 14. I set the Viewtech controller on top of box-like floor mat covering the navigation controller.

    The camera works well. It can be positioned to view downward to include the road directly behind the car.

    Greg Brown
  • Perhaps I'm just being picky, but how many clips do you guys have for the driver floormat? I see two holes, but I only have one clip.
  • Update to my previous post.

    The red wire in position 9 of the 18 pin connector is always hot. I have moved the Viewtech 12V connection from pin 9 to the blue wire at pin 18. Pin 18 is hot only when accessory or ignition is on

  • fragmire, Mine came with two clips. They were in a plastic bag in the glove box, look there. If not ask your dealer for one more, he shouldn't charge you.
    Mac you sound like your much better. Stay well my friend.
  • Does anyone know whether the Avalon uses a timing belt or does it use a timing belt. The chain would more durable. A belt would have to be replaced at some point.

    If it uses the belt, when does Toyota reccommend changing it.
  • The pictures of chromed wheels you posted are great. They are identical to the ones I received on my Avalon. I don't think most folks could do better price wise. This seems to be the going rate. For $700.00 extra you received the wheels with the car, tires mounted and balanced. Why go after market?
    Tips for removing the factory XM antenna and hooking up the Terk micro unit would be appreciated. It appears double sided tape was used to secure the current antenna. Was there any problem removing the existing trunk mounted antenna? Did the paint stand up to the relocation? How is the XM radio reception?
  • I have been trying since January to find a 2005 XL without Moonroof (so I can get some additional Headroom) I just saw the first XL without moonroof at a dealer within a reasonable distance.

    At this point, I'm curious to compare 05 vs 06..

    According to Edmunds, the 06 is $300 more, The 06 has less rated Horsepower (not important to me) and offers optional traction and stability control.

    From a features standpoint, is that it?

    Are 06 XLs without moonroof more common than 05?
  • 5539655396 Posts: 530
    "Why go after market?"

    The reason that I go aftermarket is for greater selection, allowing me to get exactly what I want, I probably won't see another like it, and it gives me a second set of wheels/tires for winter, so I can keep my first choice in mint condition. Swapping also gives me variety, and I can install a less expensive, more aggressive tire for winter. Yes, I have to buy another set of tires, but I also have a second set of pristine wheels/tires to sell, or put on my next car, when I trade or sell. It's also a bit more of a pain in the butt to change and store, but to me, it's worth it.
  • wynwyn Posts: 32
    The floormat clips furnished in Avalons in NC are poorly designed and will push the grommet out of the carpet during installation. I have two ragged holes with the grommets down underneath somewhere. The dealer has stopped installing them. He offered to replace the carpet but I elected to wait for Toyota to come up for a less serious solution---The seats must be removed to replace the carpet. It appears the upper lip on the grommets were also too narrow to prevent pushing through with minimum force. I discussed the problem with Toyota several times and sent them pictures but have heard nothing from them in a couple months. My Avalon is an 05 XLS and was delivered in April.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Marv, just taking it one day at a time. I got a call from the oncology clinic today to tell me who my new Dr. will be as my Dr. retired earlier this month. My new doc is a woman and her name is Dr. Crook! I told the nurse; "I hope that's not a bad omen" and she replied: "Actually she has been handling it pretty good! Everyone ribs her about her last name" I get to meet her on the 28th of this month. Wish me luck!
  • That's a good explanation. The way my deal works is, I'll drive the Avy as a company car for three years (or 60K miles). At that point, I order a new car and when the new car arrives, I can buy the Avy for the remaining balance or just give it back to the company to let it go to a wholesaler. It's generally a great deal to buy the car as long as you start with a car that has strong residual value and you've had the car for 36 months. The last car I had was an Acura 3.2 TL which I was able to buy for $12,300. I then traded it in on a new Honda Accord EX which I bought for invoice price +TTL. The dealer gave me $15,700 trade in for the Acura. I agree with you that the commercial leasing company would probably not sell you the car for cash at the same price. :)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,688
    Thanks for the update. Had it on my list to email you to ask myself.

    This message has been approved.

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