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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon

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  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    agree with some of the other posters here - if the operation of some of these 'fluff' features is so important to you, how do you not test it before you buy? CAPS not necessary, either.
  • jlsextonjlsexton Posts: 301
    I WAS TRYING TO SPARE OTHER PEOPLE THE DISAPPOINTMENT OF PURCHASING A USELESS ITEM. POINT OF INFORMATION, I LIVE IN UPSTATE NY, WHEN THE SNOW IS 16 INCHES OR MORE ON MY CAR AND THE DOORS ARE FROZEN CLOSED, I DO NOT CONSIDER A REMOTE START A, AS YOU SO IDENTIFIED IT "FLUFF FEATURE". I HAVE MANY TOYS AS I CAN WELL AFFORD THEM. THE AVALON IS MY FAMILY CAR, THE MASERATI & FERRARI ARE OUR DRIVING CARS.
  • jlsextonjlsexton Posts: 301
    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR,I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO, INPUT. PERHAPS IT NEVER OCCURED TO YOU THERE IS A MEDICAL REASON WHY SOME PEOPLE USE A LARGE TYPE FORMAT.
  • Steady there, jl. You're about to blow a gasket. Stop shouting and just settle down.

    Dandydon
  • lzclzc Posts: 483
    >>THE MASERATI & FERRARI ARE OUR DRIVING CARS.

    If true, then the small loss you'll take when you dump the car will be insignificant, and certainly not worth pushing one's blood pressure higher.
  • jlsextonjlsexton Posts: 301
    I posted my messsage to be of a help to others, apparently this is more of a chat room than a collection of ideas or thoughts about cars and there idiosyncrasies. I do not direct this at you but to the writers of inane responses to that post. I will continue to try to help others as G-D has been good to me and we should all try, despite the actions of others...........
  • if you are complaining now, why u didn't test it out throughly when you bought the car at the first point?
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    I view that question as inappropriate.

    How many times have you ever tried exhaustively options before you purchased a vehicle?

    In this case, probably the option was dealer installed at the purchaser's request.

    Two points:
    When a manufacturer offers a OEM option, the assumption which is appropriate is the OEM option will be very compatible with the vehicle, and will be well tested and it's behaviors appropriate, not illogical.

    The other point is, testing of the Remote Starter probably wouldn't go beyond remotely starting the vehicle and proving it works, not detecting odd behaviors which you might only discover after really giving the thing a workout.

    If it truly isn't driver- or customer-centric, then maybe a well written letter to Toyota is warranted, granted.

    But busting on a poster for not thoroughly testing a feature?

    Oh - and I suppose people with issues of the Avalon NAV should have fully checked that out prior to purchase.

    Shouldn't we cut jlsexton some slack?

    We are going to witness more and more Human Factors / Usability issues as vehicles become more computerized and complex.

    The same can be said of Home Appliances and other major purchases. Sometimes behaviors collide with expectations or prior learning... and this is only discovered after a period of product ownership.
  • 3puttmax3puttmax Posts: 119
    Just completed long trip from LA to Seattle and back on I-5. I use the laser cruise control (05 Limited) when cruising on the I-5 freeway. On this trip (but not on previous trips, same places), the LCC senses trucks in the lane to the right of me, and starts to slow down, then resumes the cruise. This causes about a 2 sec interruption before passing the truck - very annoying.

    It seems to be responding to reflections from the reflector strip most large trucks have. This is a metal bar the full width of the truck, about 18-24 inches above ground, with red reflectors across it. I guess I'll have to go to the dealer about this, hate to bother. Anyone else notice this problem?

    Max
  • richa502richa502 Posts: 16
    It absolutely is a useless feature. The idea of remote starting, only to find that when you open your door the car shuts off, is totally stupid. Most people wouldn't test that because they wouldn't think the manufacturer would be that dumb. I, for one, agree with the author of this message. And thanks for solidifiing my decision now - I will now NOT be getting this lemon of a car. Way too many issues with it.
  • netwonnetwon Posts: 53
    Use aftermarket remote start problem solved.

    My .02 Cents.

    Netwon
  • netwonnetwon Posts: 53
    I posted a message a little while ago about Key Override-sl (www.ifar.ca) it allows remote start to be installed despite Smart Key. Learns smart key (not need to purchase second to have mounted under dash). I've used it works like a hot damn!

    Netwon
  • I don't understand the problem. You open the door, get in and restart the engine. Time required 5 seconds. IMHO if you live where you're afraid of being mugged when you open the door the remote start isn't the problem.
  • bobwileybobwiley Posts: 241
    richa502: My Remote Start is a Joke--much like the Nav System---standing in Target parking lot--straight line to car---had to get within 50 ft for it to work--then, when i get there and open door--motor shuts off--duh?! About as smart as having a garage door opener that oipens the door, shuts it once car is inside and then ya have to re-open garage door to do back outside. I tell folks Laser Cruise, Remote Start and Nav System are NOT worth the $$$. Laser Cruise is great if not too much traffic--otherwise--I use regular cruise.
    Bob
  • all i'm trying saying is, you already bought the car, the option is already installed. Complain or regert is no use. Find a solution or live with it.

    When i bought this 06 limited last year, I went to the dealer 4 days in a row to test drive the car. I have done enough research on here and some other websites before I bought the car.

    so remote start sucks - i got an aftermarket one
    no ipod? - I've searched and found somewhere for an OEM ipod adapter
    no bodykit? - I just bought one and coming soon - yes California
    transmission sucks - yes it sucks, but that's how the drive by wire works.
  • Why do we need Laser Cruise? IMHO opinion it's an accesorie that's added just because the technology is available. If you can't tell that a car in front of you is too close and you should slow down then maybe it's time for you to hang up the car keys.
  • rwb2rwb2 Posts: 85
    Or maybe you have a reoccuring ankle or knee problem. And it may be sports related and not because you'll old. Maybe intolerant people should take a step back.
  • nimiminimimi Posts: 249
    Physician, heal thyself.
  • user777user777 Posts: 3,341
    peace,

    but you say you experienced the transmission and you still bought the car anyway, right? :confuse:

    the original poster was making a point to clue other people in that the option was a poor value.

    and no, DBW doesn't have to "work" that way. ;)
  • gartmacdgartmacd Posts: 27
    We are in Chetticamp, Nova Scotia, on our tour of the Province with the new Avalon. First oil change in Sydney en route. So far so good, and I won't say more because good news seems to irritate some folks.
    We found our B&B has internet so here goes.
    Just dropped in to express some curiosity. What's all the fuss about a remote starter that shuts the engine off when doors are opened. I don't have one, nor need one (BTW our Winters are a lot worse than New Hampshire by a long way!). But doesn't it make sense to have the device do just that? Example: You're still in your home, car in driveway, remotely started, and a thief decides to scoop the car? Makes sense to me! I also suggest that behaving like a juvenile when something doesn't work the way you want it to (never having tried it beforehand) is a little foolish. Even more so when carrying a pistol around to mete out vigilante justice. A bizarre way to make a point IMO!
    Rest assured we'll avoid New Hampshire in our travels, where 'shoot first and ask questions later' is the way differences get settled!
  • jlsextonjlsexton Posts: 301
    I meant the revolver thing as a joke when talking to the local rep, she laughed so apparently she realized it for what is was. I really do not carry my Ruger, as it is too heavy, a much smaller Rohrbaugh 9mm is more suited for that. I keep forgetting that there is a large percentage of the earths population who chose to be a victim rather than to protect family,friends and property. That is everyones right, that is to expect someone such as a police officer to protect their butts. I'd rather accept my responsibility. Get back to you when I have more time to waste.
  • gartmacdgartmacd Posts: 27
    I returned only to correct a mistake. I referred to 'New Hampshire' in my post instead of 'Upstate New York'. Sorry for the unintended slight to NH.
    Have to say this though:
    Carrying a weapon with stated intent to use it for any such purpose is no joke. Claiming it as a 'responsibility to protect one's butt' is.
    Don't bother getting back, thanks. Not interested, and besides, we're on the road again soon and may not have further internet availability.
  • I have been monitoring this forum ever since we purchased our 2005 Avalon (Limited)in February 2005. We had previously owned a Lincoln LS which was a complete and total disaster. I am happy to say that we have 14K miles on the Avalon and have been very pleased with the car thus far. Unlike some of the people who have posted, our experience with the laser guided cruise has been good and I use it often, however, there is very little traffic on my work commute.

    I do agree with many posters that the navigation system is difficult to use. Our other car is an Acura TL (2004) and the navigation system is superior by a very very very large margin. I have not experienced any of the transmission issues documented in this forum.

    I did have a squeak in the rear seats which the dealer could not fix. I figured it out myself and fixed it with a quick adjustment of a single bolt. Overall this car has been great. It is my sixth toyota and is performing to the top quality standards that I have come to expect.

    Have a great trip and do not hesitate to point out the good as well as the trouble spots.
  • doobredoobre Posts: 42
    Hi hsakuragi, can you provide more details on the aftermarket remote start and the iPod interface you have used with your avalon.. supplier and price etc...
    cheers
  • for remote start, refere message #12923 of 12935

    for ipod, you have to contact SE region toyota dealers and see if they can sell them to you as accessiores and ship it to you if you are not in the SE region, I'm not allow to give you the information where I got it from, but the price is 180 for the adapter, and yes, it's OEM and works with the steering wheel control.
  • retired7retired7 Posts: 133
    I once heard this one and thought I'd pass it on for what it's worth; " It's better to be tried by twelve than carried by six!"
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Let's get back to the Avalon, folks.
  • bobwileybobwiley Posts: 241
    Thanks Pat: Too bad folks can't use the Forum as intended--pass on the goodd,bads and experiences regarding the specific car. Can you pre=screen replies and remove the "venomous" ones? Grat network the Forum!!
    Bob
  • nimiminimimi Posts: 249
    I just stumbled upon a review on www.nctd.com on the 2006 Avalon. Here's an interesting exerpt:

    "Avalon's engine and transmission deliver unobtrusive performance. Fifth gear is a relaxed overdrive, allowing the engine to loaf on the highway. Driving over steep mountain passes with some determination rewarded us with 268 horsepower backed by an automatic that knows when to shift. In tighter sections, where our speeds were in the 30 to 50 mph range, we decided to operate the transmission in manual mode, tap-shifting from second to third gear and revving up and down through the corners."
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    after 36k on my Touring will likely be looking to replace my Michelins with a set of somethings soon. Have found the Michelins to be quite satisfactory but have always felt that tires in the last 25% of treadlife need to be replaced. Don't need anything for snow/ice just lots of rain.
    In any case, anybody out there with some specific recommendations given that I'm not about to screw up my car with some outrageous tire/wheel size combination. Think the same 215/55 or 225/55 on my stock 17" wheels - any thoughts or experiences would be helpful.
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