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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon



  • gypsy13gypsy13 Posts: 28
    Mileage report: I drove from NW Wyoming through Yellowstone and Teton parks (slow, hilly) to and around Jackson...then from there to Evanston, Wyoming. got 30.5 mpg. From there at about 65 mpg to Yuma, Arizona...800 miles....and got a precisely measured 35.2. Around town in Yuma it's running 19.4 to 20.4.
  • just wanted to see if other people are having the same issue. the issue is with the door for the compartment where your cellphone goes. my doesnt close unless i press the button and hold down to click it in. i have mentioned it to the service dept but they state that they cant do nothing for that. sounds similar to the center instrument cluster finish plate assembly. one last thing how are TSB reported and issued.
  • I have seen a comment or two about roads missing from the navigator and since I mostly use mine when I travel, I didn't notice that some of the minor roads were not shown on my screen. What surprised me was that the computer "knew" what road I was on because it had a title but the road wasn't drawn on the screen. I played around until I found that zooming in with the "+" button made the roads pop into view.
    I hope this helps some of you with the same problem.
    I love my 05 Ltd. No real problems that I can't live with. I get a real kick of seeing people who need to move the car, puzzle about the lack of a key. (It did bother me a bit when the Toyota Service Manager couldn't start it at first though.)
  • Has anyone received the Sirius radio option on the 06 Avalon. I've heard that they replaced the external antenna with one that goes on the inside of the windshield. Can anyone verify this?
  • ub2ub2 Posts: 17
    This was on the net as a hybrid image
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  • Clay,
    This topic is a hot issue not only on this site but most other auto forums which have Denso Nav systems which also will not allow an input while driving.
    While browsing through a Cadillac forum I ran across an input from a guy who works for a company which services these units. His post is cryptic in that he will not say directly how to get around this problem, but he post many hints. He seems to say there is no way to do it on the diagnostics screen, or on the map disks, but he does talk about a master disc (he gives the P/N for GM vehicles) which does not contain map data but instead .bin files. Here is the link:
    It is in post #115 and #118 from a poster called "FIDGAF"
    Maybe someone here with the proper knowledge will be able to gleen something from his post to set them on the right path to unlocking our Nav systems as well since I believe we also have a Denso system? Just an idea...maybe some of our tech savy folks can read it and comment?
  • I went back to the dealer today and told them I would not take the car...they were very apologetic and did some calling. They said they got some good deal from Toyota and that they would have the car for me as requested in about two weeks. :D They are even going to put the laser cruise on it for me since I decided I wanted it as well. Much better than the free oil changes first offered. They were actually surprised that I wasn't that upset about it, hey it happens all the time, just hated seeing the wife so disappointed. She should be happy in a few weeks.
  • With less that 5K miles, I have chips in the front and back bumpers and several big chips on the chrome-looking front grill. None that I could find yet in the paint and I wash the car twice a week. Sure wish they painted with a longer lasting top coat. Checked the service dept. for touch-up paint and they don't have my color, Silver Pine Mica.
    Island Avy
  • ednovakednovak Posts: 55
    My wife has a 2005 Sienna XLE LTD AWD. She loves it. She uses the Nav system when going to new places and it does a great job for her. She says even if she could re program while driving she would not as it takes her concentration off of driving. But when both of us are in the car it would be nice for the passenger to have the option of programming the Nav system while driving.

    I can't help with the Avalon, but on the 05 Sienna (I have one) and the various Lexus models there is a "secret" sequence that unlocks the system and allows entering destination information etc. while in motion. It has to be entered each time you start the van but stays active until you turn off the ignition. Unfortunately, it only works with the touch screen models. If you wish, drop me a direct line and I'll forward the information to you. I'm
  • motownusamotownusa Posts: 836

    Hi Regis:

    I was just finding out a new way to post picture. So I decided to try your Avalon Picture. It seems works pretty good. They don't restrict posting images hosted on their sites. You do have to register at their site which is actually pretty straight forward.

    Best Regards
  • I just considered it part of my cosmic luck, but I got my first hood paint chip and my first windshield chip (different sides) on the same 4 hour interstate trip after only 1500 miles. Still awaiting my first door ding at 3000 miles.

    It did strike me as odd that I did not recall any impacts to cause this damage. Never had a chip in either of these places during 45,000 miles in my previous Maxima.

    Now that I have these badges of honor, I'm just hoping the second ones are a long way off.
  • chodiechodie Posts: 13
    Do you still have the ping at start up. I have an 06 and mine does the same thing. Is this normal? What does Toyota say? thanks
  • Hi Ed,

    This is quite the hot topic, and I'm sure with all the knowledgeable folks on here we can get around this "small irritation" somehow! When I took delivery of the car my salesman offered a "tutorial" of the navigation system from a techie who was a specialist supposedly with the system. He said it would be much more in depth than the usual quick one over when I took delivery of the car. I am going to call and make that appointment tomorrow and see if I can squeeze any information out of the guy. As for our system, if I am not mistaken it is originally made by Fujitsu Ten, which mfgs all of the other Toyota systems as well. From what you mentioned, and what I have seen on other forums, most Toyota model navigation systems with the touch screen interface have the override screen, but since ours is set up differently with the remote console buttons for operation of the nav, it is more difficult to figure this out! I have to admit it is a fun little project though. I never would have figured how to get to the diagnostic screen without the great info on this forum. In any case I'll try like the rest of you to get some information from the dealer and hopefully we can get around this somehow. :)

    Take care,
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Sorry to hear about your paint chips. On the Toyota Avalon the door dings are programmed to come on at around 4500 miles. Actually all paint chips, windshield chips, and door dings are part of the ECM software which also tells the cars' transmission when to hesitate. This programmed "events" happen so quick that they are transparent to the user. Enjoy.
  • ub2ub2 Posts: 17
    My 06 has 4500 miles on it and one chip in the front bumper. I could swear that it happened when I was washing the bugs off the front. I get real close with the spray wand and saw the chip fly off. Could be toyota need a more sterile painting environment.
  • n0v8orn0v8or Posts: 169
    Great find, nolava50,

    There are likely some useful clues in those Cadillac forum posts, particularly if our Nav units have the same heritage as those in the Caddys. I'll take a look on the Cadillac Division site to see if the Nav screen shots and controls look familiar.

    Before they discovered the "override" button, the Prius and Sienna guys/gals had developed a hardware "hack". It uses a timer and relay that disconnects the speed sensor signal from the Nav (which fools it into thinking you have stopped for 20 seconds or so). Once the Nav takes a new satellite read (every 20-30 seconds) it realizes your position has changed so restores the lockout. The timer re-connects the speed signal for ~1 second every 15-20 seconds to give you a fresh 20 seconds to work with. All of the the construction details and test results are available on the siennaclub site forums. A minor downside is that the nav becomes "lost" during the time you have the speed signal disconnected. However, once you or your passenger is finished, the connection is restored full time, and the Nav recovers your true position from the GPS.
  • regisregis Posts: 94
    Thanks motownusa. I've registered with

  • Clay,
    Wow, got my wires crossed...for some reason I had Denso on my mind. But, whichever make it is, the intend was to spur looking in a different direction. I have read on this forum about trying the diagnostic screen, but those who got there (I guess you have made it there?) found no means of a bypass. I did read the fix someone made to trick the system with a switch to fool the unit into thinking the car was stopped. I had also read that someone said they though the dealer had some way to turn this feature off, so when I read the info from an insider about a "special" .bin DVD I thought we may have something similar which Toyota uses which opens the ability to set the system. Beyond my knowledge base, but if available I'm sure many of us would like to get their hands on it. I'm thinking of asking my wife (Japanese) to write to Toyota Japan or Fujitsu and tell them we are moving back to Japan and want to bring the Avalon with us to see if there is a bypass (not required in Japan). I doubt they will tell us anything...but like you said, with so many of us looking eventually something will come up! :)
  • deaniedeanie Posts: 172
    I preferred the Ivory interior too, but after seeing a demo w/ivory interior with only 400 miles on it, and noticing how prevalent and visible the scuff marks and dirt showed up on the door sill plates and the lower half of the door trim, wife and I instantly decided on the slightly less handsome, but far more practical grey interior (we have two young kids). Take your pick - both are nice.
  • My mother has the Sirius radio option on a 2006 Avy. The antenna is above the rearview mirror on the inside of the windshield.
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