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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon



  • dandldandl Posts: 57
    It may have been your VSC warning tone. I "activated" the light and warning tone when I deliberately tested the car in a skid on an icy spot in a parking lot after our first big snow storm :blush: When the car perceived the "skid", a warning light flashed (very briefly) under the fuel gage and a quick warning tone sounded. The interesting thing was that I never felt out of control of the car and it responded just fine. The car manual explains more about this....
  • I made a similar comment above, but I’ll reiterate it here.

    Any four door sedan really has too much girth to be considered a sport anything in my book. I’ve had a VW Phaeton, Audi A6 and seriously test driven M3 and M5. The BMW’s were probably the closest, but once you stepped back into a sports car, you realize it’s all just marketing hype.
  • K and N Filters just announced you can order air filters for the 2005 and 2006 Avalon
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    That is if you're interested in coating your MAF/IAT sensors with oil wicked from the K&N and then the oil coating covered with all the dirt particles the K&N doesn't "filter".

    Completely removing any and all filtration will only add, at the most, 10% to the engine capability and even that only at WOT and near max engine RPM. So now put the K&N back in and you lose maybe 50% of that 10% you had with no filtration.

    So the bottom line is that using the K&N will add about 13HP to your base 268HP just prior to the transaxle upshifting. If you DIY clean the MAF/IAT every oil change then maybe it makes sense.

    If you're a boy-racer personality type and like to beat out the other guy at the traffic light then go for it.

    Yes, we will probably accept their ad money and run K&N's on our 997/GT3's at the upcoming 24 hours of Daytona but those engines are torn down and rebuilt after each race.
  • "Would be curious to know if you were driving the 745, why not the LS instead of the Av?"

    I don't want to spend that kind of money on a car any more, whether an LS or a 745. We're saving for two kids going to college, and I'm more interested in retiring early than driving an expensive car. In short, my priorities have changed.

    When I was younger, I always wanted a high-end German car and I got my wish. It's out of my system. Now I'm more interested in cheap, comfortable, reliable transportation. The Avalon fit the bill pretty well for me.
  • "also it has been proved here its faster than 745 and 645 for ur info"

    You might be right. I never did any scientific timing on the 745i, but I always thought it was a little slower than BMW claimed. Especially at 5k feet where I do my daily driving.

    The Avalon is 800lbs lighter, and that could make up the difference for a less powerful engine and a 5-speed. With better rubber, the Avalon might well be as fast, or faster than an '02 745i -- so long as you're going straight, and you don't want to go further than, say, a quarter mile :).

    But seriously, I'm not going to quibble over a tenth of a second. It just doesn't matter to me.
  • hylynerhylyner Posts: 216
    $35K seems a mite high for a used 06 LTD, but you're in the business and could shed more light on my guesstimate. From what I read in these forums, selling prices for new ones range from $28K to $32K reasonably well equipped, depending where in the country you're located. I would think wholesale values on a used one would be lower than that. Could be difficult finding a buyer at that high a price. I cannot for the life of me figure why the problems he says he's having can't be made right.
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    think mackabee is just calling a man's bluff, certainly beginning to look like the car doesn't exist - somebody with an agenda?
  • scoti1scoti1 Posts: 676
    :confuse: Didn't Pat the Host tell us to knock off this kind of talk?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Pat the Host sure did.
  • hylynerhylyner Posts: 216
    Will somebody please tell me what I said was wrong this time? :confuse:
    Seems this business of "you're not supposed to say that" is being taken to extremes!
    Also, if memory serves Pat, didn't you rule that we should email you if we object to something another person says, and NOT say so publicly??
  • 35K sure sounds high for what is essentially an used Avalon. It is a known fact that the minute you drive the car off the dealer's lot, you will lose 10 to 15% of the car's value. Given that you have driven the car for few months and put about 5000 miles on the odometer, 35K sound extremely high and nobody in their right mind will pay that much when you can buy a brand new Avalon for as much or less than that. If you really want to "Dump" the car then you certainly wouldn't ask 35K for it.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    We need to talk about the Avalon. We need to not talk about each other and we need to not talk about discussion management. And we need to not talk about anything else that's disruptive and off-topic.

    EMAIL me if you have comments to make about what I am saying. Further posts that include any of these things will be removed without notice.
  • scoti1scoti1 Posts: 676
    FYI, my reply was not to your post. :)
  • not being able to turn it off. I live in the New England. This car will leave you high and dry in a Blizzard. My problem with not being able to turn it off is that, when the car just gets some momentum, the Trac-cntl activates and shuts your pedal off. There was one incident where by the time i got moving, it turned off in the middle of an intersection with a truck coming toward my side. It felt like an eternity before the system recovered and i got out of the way. Toyota has taken away too much control from the Driver. I would love it if they bought the car back.
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    I thought traction control was a safety feature that maximized the traction available under slippery conditions. Rather than not moving at all, the car proceeds as quickly as it can without the wheels spinning. Please let me know if this is not how it functions. I would much prefer to have traction control than ABS. ABS equipped vehicles have longer stopping distances in ice and snow conditions (contrary to what most believe).
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    grew up and learned to drive in NE and remember well how important it was to maintain speed to be able to get thru drifts, up hills, and those snow banks the plows will leave at cross streets. your problem is not really with Toyota per se (although they should provide a means to deactivate things like TRAC and VSC) but with this technology that is becoming so popular on today's cars. The Avalon is one of many cars out there that now has these kind of problems AND expect it to get worse! Glad to hear that the car decided to give you some throttle back before that truck hit you!
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Please post where it is documented that ABS cars have longer stopping distances on ice.
  • mem4mem4 Posts: 52
    I tried the traction control on Thanksgiving with 3-4" of unplowed snow on the side roads. I went up a hill that had been tough to get up with my 4x4 Tundra. The Traction Control kept the car moving, prevented the wheels from spinning and let me keep going at 20-25 MPH. I just put my foot on the gas and the car kept moving, I never felt the Traction Control remove power.
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