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Acura TL Maintenance and Repair

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  • Thank you, Mkacura! You've given me hope, and I "will" approach the situation in the direction you've implied: It's great, because, I can let my "public administration skills" speak for me -- in writing, and in no way will I stop there. If I could tell you more, I would, but, I'll stop here before I blow a gasket talking. :o) Thanks to you, I know how to proceed so that the madness is stopped before it spreads any farther. OK. Also, it isn't "hydrogen", it's NITROGEN that's in the tires! :o) I was quite upset when I wrote that note seeking help. Again, thanks for your input -- it is so appreciated! After 13 yrs retirement, the military still comes through in the way that I handle things; 22 1/2 yrs active duty wasn't anything to "whistle at", as old-timers can say. :o)
  • Last year I replaced the original Bridgestone tires that came on my '08 TL Type-S with Toyo Versados. I really liked them for most driving conditions. The tires were a little iffy in bigger snow accumulations. Last year in MA we had some pretty big storms and I got stuck in my driveway with the Versados.

    I ran over a couple of nails recently so I ended up replacing all 4 tires wiht Toyo Extensa HP tires because Town Fair Tire didn't have any Versados in the area. They told me the Extensa tires were replacing the Versados.

    I just bought the Extensas today. I need to drive them a little more so I'm not committed to them yet. I read some reviews of the Extensas and so far it looks like the consensus on them is that they are not too good in the snow. Living in MA I need decent snow tires because of the unpredictable winters.

    I prefer all-season high performance tires over snow tires because of limited storage space and because some winters we don't get much snow at all.

    Has anyone bought high performance all-season tires that they feel are fairly decent in the snow and yet are reasonably quiet?

    I put on about 30K a year in driving. I bought the TL for the quiet, smooth ride and I'd like keep it as quiet & smooth as I can.

    I tried Toyo Proxes on my TL before I bought the Versados and the Proxes were way too loud on the TL. I immediately swapped them for the Versados.

    Thanks in advance for any replies.
    Zak
  • the michelin tires that come stock on the car are awesome

    on every tl , or s type, the michelins did great in rain, snow... regular driving...i didn't notice any noise... windows always closed and stereo on

    i wouldn't get a car without the michelins...
  • annalovely0neannalovely0ne Posts: 7
    edited October 2011
    Hi! I "totally" agree with you about the Toyos on an Acura -- it's close to driving a truck! Plus, the noise is overbearing! Thanks to the guy in the maintenance department who did not do what I asked (replaced Michelin's with Toyos), I drove out of the dealership thinking that he knew what he was talking about! NOT! I have those tires in bags that Sears provides its customers when tires are changed (since April), taking up room in my apartment! I "love" Michelin tires! Advertised the Toyos on Craigs List (458 miles), reduced the price, of course, but haven't been able to sell them! I all but despise that guy! OK. I won't blow a gasket. Only Michelins seem to make no noise; Sears ran a special on them, and offered a $70-rebate. :o)
  • Hi yoyoone,

    Thanks for the reply. What type of michelins do you have? My car came with Bridgestone tires that were horrible. They flexed too much during hard cornering and gave me a very uncomfortable feeling during aggressive driving. Toyo tires are fantastic for dry weather driving but so far the all-season high performance tires haven't impressed me at all in anything but light snow.
  • I would like to let my fellow Acura owners know about the issues I have had with using gas from Costco.

    My 2010 Acura TL SH-AWD died on me the other day and would not restart. It was towed to the nearest dealer where they determined the engine failure was due to contaminated gas that I purchased @ Costco.

    It resulting in having to replace the cars ECU and fuel injectors, which were very costly repairs. Costco claims no responsibility for this damage!

    There were similar incidents in New Jersey affecting about 20 Honda automobiles two weekends ago.

    On going there seems to be an issue with their gas or something in it and our sensitive engines which no one wants to tell the truth about.

    I feel its my responsibility to warn Acura owners about the dangers it can cause to their vehicles.
  • Thanks for the warning, even though I don't use Costco gas. I'm not doubting you but I was curious as to how the dealer know it was the gas? Is there a test that they do?

    If my dealer told me it was bad gas, I would say "Prove it!" I'm just wondering what proof they provided you.
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    I have used COSTCO gas in my cars for the last 15 years. Recently my wife 2009 TSX and for the last 2 years in my TL-SHAWD, Zero problems, but that is here in San Diego, Ca.

    This should not be blamed on Costco, but rather the distributor of the gas and how well they take care of their underground or above ground storage tanks...

    Sorry to hear of the problem.
  • sdginz13sdginz13 Posts: 6
    edited November 2011
    The dealer pulled the fuel injectors from the car and sediment was leaking from them. I have pictures to prove it.

    You should watch this link:
    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/video/#!/news/local/Tainted-Fuel-at-NJ-Costco-Cau- - ses-Problems/132751993

    I strongly believe that there is something used in the gas that affects our engines. That may only be here in the northern states as the gas changes over to a winter blend. Regardless, we should know about it.
  • rlonn1rlonn1 Posts: 106
    I watched the video,definitely is a delivery company issue with contamination. I take care of technical building and have over 21 Generators under my watch. Contaminated fuel is a big concern for me when filling up a 2000 gallon tank. With Diesel Fuel we do what is called Polishing the fuel once a year looking for any kind of contamination. In California we have summer and winter fuel, mixing them together will not cause any issues... I think Costco did the correct thing to make good. I am sure they in turn will go back to the delivery company to get their money back.... They only showed Hondas, I am sure other brands have the same issues.... Having the car break down does SUCK big time, but don't blame Costco.... BTW, just refueled at Costco yesterday and I looked around and saw BMW's, Mercedes Benz, A Jag, 2 Honda Civic, 3 Toyotas and what looked like a 2012 Ford Taurus all getting gas!!
  • I dont know who to blame. Dealer says its the gas, Costco says its not. I am just trying to get the word out to people to be careful. I was lucky that Acura stepped up to pay for the costs otherwise I would have been out of pocket a lot of money.
  • I watched the video too. It's awesome that Costco is taking full responsibility even though it's the distributor's (or higher up the chain) fault. Not a Costco member but now I'm thinking about it! :) Very rare these days as it's usually screw the customer.
  • There must be something to their customer service - I just read recently that Costco has about an 85% renewal rate. Pretty darn good customer retention.

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  • I think you people are missing the point. They are paying for this because they got all kinds of publicity on it. When I went to them with MY issue they denied responsibilty and refused to pay.
  • exb0exb0 Posts: 539
    I have a 2004 TL with 76K miles. The dealer says that I need to replace the timing belt due to age and dry rot (8 years old). The manual says that I need to wait until the maintenance minder tells me to do it.

    Any advice? Can I do it at a Honda store, it is $200 cheaper?
  • How did the dealer examine the "dry-rotted" belt exactly?
  • I've been told the same thing by a honest non honda/acura mechanic. The belts, like any belt, do become cracked over time. The risk of not changing it is ruining the engine. I have 50 k on my 04TL and plan to get it done soon. Cost here in Denver with the mechanic I mention above is about $900. The dealers want, if I remember correctly, $1200.
  • I don't see why the belt couldn't be examined for these cracks, but I suppose the logic is that while you have taken things apart to look at the belt, you might as well change it. But on many cars you can take off a shield and see what's what in there.
  • exb0exb0 Posts: 539
    The dealer didn’t inspect the belt; it was a “general recommendation”.

    The Acura store charges $1300, and the Honda store charges $1100, however, it includes water pump replacement, coolant flush and some other stuff. I have scheduled an appointment with the Honda store on Saturday.

    Thank you for your replies.
  • This is my first message and I understand that this forum is mostly for discussing acura maintenance and repair issues, but I would appreciate any inputs from members since I am into the car buying market once again after my car got totaled last month in an oil spill related incident.

    I am in NJ and I am researching for a used TL (base)...most of the '08 models are available at dealers around $22000 - $23000 (with approximately 30000-35000 miles on them)...and most '09 models are available around $27000 - $28000 (with around 25000 - 35000 miles on them)...

    How much low could a dealer get if I negotiate on this price? The prices seem unusually high considering that these are 3-4 year old models...

    Any inputs are greatly appreciated. Also, does anyone have experiences with "Paragon Acura" (NY)? They seem to have the best prices but have a lot of negative reviews around hidden fees etc.
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