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Acura TL Maintenance and Repair

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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,687
    '05 Non-Nav TL. No vibrations, one rattle fixed at A1 service (when sunroof is in vent position, loud rattle over uneven pavement. There is a TSB on it). No wind noise. My father has an '04 and has not had one complaint (white/tan interior). He just drove it from Florida to California and said it was a great drive!

    Go for an '05, price should be in the ~$32-33k range, depending where you live. Comparison shop and negotiate at end of the month.

    Also, remember this is a Probs/Solutions thread so if you're reading here you will read about problems. And don't believe everything you read (trolls!)! The TL is selling very well, if most had such problems they would be selling, well, like GMs... ;)

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    I also am concerned with having good vision out of my car, but I've had great experiences with window tinting. The best way to find a place is through recommendations. I haven't had that good fortune, so I just make sure I look the place over and look at the vehicles in the lot. If the place is busy, and they offer a variety of tints (like 8 or so), that makes me more comfortable. If they also do home-window tinting, I'll feel better about them. Then I look in the lot to see if the tinted cars there have bubbled or anything. I'll ask to see their employees cars, since I'm sure they tint their own, and those would be examples of tint-jobs that've been around awhile.

    I couldn't imagine not tinting my car windows here in sunny FLA. The key is to use a lighter tint. On my old CL (forget the year, but it was before the last model), I had it tinted as dark as was legal, and it did a good job of keeping out the heat and added to my comfort, but I had trouble seeing out the rear window at night.

    With my next car, I used a light metallic tint that was great - it looked metallic when hit by the sun, but almost clear when not. It was light enough to see fine. The problem with metallic tint, though, is that radar and satellite signals can have trouble getting through.

    So on my TL I have a light non-metallic tint that I'm also very happy with. Still, if someone did not plan on using rador or satellite navigation, I'd recommend the metalic. (PS - it doesn't affect cellular service)

    Overall, I've had 4 cars tinted at 3 different places (I've moved around a lot), and never had a problem.
  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    Great decision to get the nav. It's awesome and I wouldn't buy the car w/o it. I have an '04 6MT w/ summer tires and over 16k mi. No rattles, vibrations, bugs, creaks or anything other than a solid ride and a solid feel. I believe my model year was the model with the problems b/c that was the 1st year of the redesign. Still, when you test-drive, take it to 45/50 mph and keep it there for a little bit. I think that's when people say the vibration would show up.

    The other thing you can do is wait for the '06s. With each year, a car will get a few more kinks out of its system. I think you should feel confident with an '05, but if you want to wait for '06, you can consider the premium you'll pay as "insurance."

    Enjoy the ride!!!
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    I can understand tinting in Florida or Arizona, but in Northern CA it's not really needed. Plus in CA, there are restrictions on tintning.
  • ed31cincyed31cincy Posts: 56
    I have an '04 TL with over 20,000 miles. The tires still have 12-15,000 more on the treads, I would guess.

    For heaven's sake, don't buy a TL. You'll hate the blistering acceleration as you are pressed against the firm leather seats, you'll loathe the DVD-Audio system, you'll be upset at a 270-HP sedan that "only" gets 28-32 mpg highway, you'll hate the way the transmission always seems to find the perfect gear in all situations, you won't like the convenience and safety of the Bluetooth handsfree phone, and you'll never hear anyone say how gorgeous your car looks. Stay away from the TL and get an Infiniti G-35 sedan. Let the rest of us suffer through all of the horrors of our magnificent machines! ;)
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    LOL !!!

    Yes, the TL is pathetic, so pathetic I bought one. :P
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    You are going to make me hate my TL after pointing out all the horrible things it brings to my life. Horrible.

    Wow...you got 20k miles and looking at 35k? Which brand and model tires do you have? What are your plans for the future of tires? Wait..forgot..I have to get rid of my TL for all the horrible things you mentioned.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I have an '04. No vibration, pulling, or wind noise problem. Wind noise is definitely not a problem. In fact, even my wife has commented on how quiet the car is. I do have some rattle issues. Some, not a lot. Intermittent, temperature-related type rattles. I think probably most of those can be rectified. But because they have not been too intrusive, and, to be honest, I've been too busy and/or lazy, I have yet to ask the dealer to try to fix them.

    Is it a perfect car? No. But no car is. However, it is a phenomenal value, and it is just so gosh-darn gorgeous, it could sell on looks alone! :shades: Try that with an Altima, Maxima, or even the G35 sedan.

    As someone has suggested, perhaps waiting for the '06 would be added insurance.
  • ed31cincyed31cincy Posts: 56
    I have a non-NAVI with the standard Bridgestone Turanzas. 75% of my driving is highway, which probably accounts for the low wear. For the most part, I baby this car, and it rewards me with great gas mileage and low tire wear. However, I will probably purchase Michelins when I replace these to get rid of a 45-60 mph vibration. There was a posting from a tire store employee on here a while back that made a pretty strong case for the Michelins. I may drop to an H-rated tire too.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    Great...thanks. I don't have facts...but I bet that the 2004 vibration issues may also originate from the original tires provided. Maybe...as I had that problem with a car back in the 1990s.

    Let me know what you discover regarding tires when you start your research. Going to "H" speed rating... That is a drastic drop from the "W" speed ratings. Perhaps go th "V"? Not sure.

    Does anyone know if dropping so drastically from a "W" weaken the ability of the stability control or anti-lock brakes? Are the safety devices calibrated to certain speed rating parameters? I understand they are calibrated to tire size certainly.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    I am still debating tinting. So for those that did tint...what brand of tint did you use...what ratio of blackout...and prices paid?

    I am still a little uncomfortable as I seen a few luxury cars that are 5 yrs old and the tint is faded and hazy.

    Hmmm...still thinking of it.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    I live in Southern California and we went through a heat spell this week. I also drove through the desert to Vegas. These are my thoughts on the AC.

    If you leave the AC on automatic climate (where you set it to a certain temp)...initially it doesn't blow too hard or fast. I believe the reason why is that it is also directing air to the back-seat vents (for those that don't know the TL well...there are vents for the back seat passengers).

    So what I do now is to start the car....turn on the AC with the temp set at whatever you want it to be later on...then increase the air flow to get more cool air circulating. Once it gets a chance to equalize the temp througout the cabin...then I hit the 'auto climate' control to allow the car to regulate the temp well.

    I found the AC to be able to keep me and my passengers cool.
  • rob_passatrob_passat Posts: 13
    I much prefer the way my TL gently lowers the temp in the cabin.

    In all other cars that I have owned, the automatic AC System blasts me with super cold air until it is satisfied with the interior temperature.

    Rob
  • telco59telco59 Posts: 16
    I am probably going to get a 2006 TL in November. I already own a 2005 TSX and love it. I know a few people who have a 2004 TL, and they said the gas mileage is not that great for local driving. One friend averaged about 16 miles per gallon. She took it to a shop, and the mechanic said that was normal for the TL.

    Has anyone else had experience with poor gas mileage on the TL?
  • tedescm1tedescm1 Posts: 309
    DO NOT BUY A 04...

    nothing but problems...get a 05 or 06
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    Never got below 22mpg....typically 26mpg with 32mpg+ on the highway.

    The 16mpg could be numerous reasons. Including miscalculation......accidently resetting the miles after a fill....not filling the tank fully on the previous tank and require more fuel during the measured fill....getting inferior gas (name branded premium is recommended)...etc. What is more confusing it that your friend once averaged 16mpg.

    As a point of reference....the G35 gets 16mpg with mixed driving...heard of 14mpg within the city....maxing out at 25mpg highway.
  • telco59telco59 Posts: 16
    Thank you.
  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    So for those that did tint...what brand of tint did you use...what ratio of blackout...and prices paid?

    I'm afraid I can't answer your questions. I didn't research tint brands - I trusted the installers, but from having it done on several cars, I believe there are 2 major producers. As far as ratio, they'll be able to show you what the legal limits are (and they'll probably violate those limits if you ask). They'll probably also have displays showing you the various tint. Again, I don't recall the ratios, but 1 was tinted to legal limits (which meant the front, side windows were titnted less than the back and back, side windows), and the ohters were tinted light, but not the lightest you could go.

    I'd suggest telling them what your goal is - looking cool, preventing people from looking in, keeping sun out, etc. I believe the metallic tints are the best for looks, privacy and keeping sun out. As stated in a prior post, the metal might interfere with a nav system, though, so if you have a nav system, check on that before getting metallic tint. I use a radar detector, too, but that wouldn't dissuade me frommetal tint. It'd prevent the radar from getting 360 degree signals, but it could still get signals from in front of me.

    Also, some people get a strip of tint along the top front mirror. I'd hesitate before doing that - think it looks real bad.

    I am still a little uncomfortable as I seen a few luxury cars that are 5 yrs old and the tint is faded and hazy.

    Tint will fade over time - there's no denying that. I'd expect you too notice it less in a lightly-tinted car. Ask about fading - maybe metallic tints don't. Also, when some tints fade, they show purplish, and others greenish. Usually, they'll pick a greenish or purplish shade to match the cars pre-existing glass. Lastly, each tint I've gotten came with a warranty. I've never had a car for less than 3 years and never had a tinting problem so I can't vouch for how well they work.

    PS - if you use a radar detector, most of these places can also rout your cord directly into the electrical w/o using the lighter socket.
  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    I have an '04 TL (no problems, thank you) and think that 16 mpg city could be accurate BUT

    1. even when city driving, it's subjective. A lot of stops; quick starts 'cause you think it's gonna pick up, only to have to stop short,etc.

    2. I know I get lots worse mpg than I shold b/c I'm having a blast practicing my 0-60 times!!!

    3. I think the TL low tank light goes on way too early - usually when I have 40 gallons left. If your friend is estimating based on what the handbook says the tank will hold, they're probably not getting an accurate read. She needs to let her computer monitor run for awhile, or look at the actual gas put in the 1st tank, compared to what is put in on the next refill, compared to the # of miles driven.

    Hey, TL owners, could we compute this quickly by filling up the tank, looking at "miles to empty" and then dividing by the # of gallons the handbook says the car will take?
  • ceraulicerauli Posts: 44
    I have an 04 TL and I am getting 20-21mpg around town and 26-28 highway. Hope this helps. :) I am happy with this for the 270hp fun that comes free with the car!!! :shades:
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    When I moved from the suburbs to the city, my mpg dropped by about 3. Now, if I do entirely city driving, I only get 19mpg at the most. And those are on Imperial gallons! :cry: But on the highway, I get at least 31 - 32.
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,597
    "I do have some rattle issues.".............."I have yet to ask the dealer to try to fix them."

    Don't bother. They only have "it's normal" programed in their vocabulary (LOL).
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,687
    Not true. I had a sunroof related rattle (the only one, so far?). There was a TSB on it and dealer fixed it at A1 service.

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    If you live in Phoenix or Vegas you want that blast of cold air, NOW!!! :shades:
  • carnaughtcarnaught Posts: 1,597
    Gee, maybe there's a TSB on all my rattles, buzzes and vibrations. I'll call my dealer (LOL).
  • usntl05usntl05 Posts: 8
    You know I purchased my car right before I deployed, its a 05/NAV, and I only drove it 2 days, but I been admiring the car since 03, and when the new 04 came out, I was only wishing to but the car, and test drove it at the end of 04, and since I joined this site, just for some info, I been seeing people SLAM the car, and I have been like O my God what have I done, but it always good to hear some positive input. I guess all n all you heed what applies if your vehicle is running good than great, if not.. well. it happens. I am still happy with my purchase and still like the vehicle very much. for the buck and technology.
    :) :shades:
  • usntl05usntl05 Posts: 8
    There are VENTS in the BACK???? Why dont people tell me these things!!!!!
    I am calling the DEALERSHIP!!!
    LOL
  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    LOL - they're behind the center stack. Not sure if you can turn them off or not.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    Yes...you can turn them off so they don't blow in the back area. But the dial controlled by the back seat passengers (that is...the dial is near the air vents) so that means that the air flow is still going to the back seats...but it blocked...and minimal additional air flow for the front passengers.

    Either way...if you want more air flow...just pump up the flow initially...then hit the 'auto climate' for a nice regulated temperature.
  • taxesquiretaxesquire Posts: 681
    it's really not a problem for me. I generally have my temp set btn 70 & 73. If my car's been out in the sun and is closer to 85 inside the car, the a/c automatically kicks into high gear. The only thing I do is that if it's hotter in the car than out, I set it to bring in outside air, rather than recirculate inside air.

    I rarely bother adjusting the fan speed or temp.
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