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Toyota Prius



  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    A caution about posting your email address on these pages--it can be stripped off and used for spamming. It's safer to put your email address into your Town Hall profile, mark the address public, and then just refer people to that.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    One sure way to get a Prius before Christmas is to buy it on eBay for the "buy it now" price. That means you'll likely pay over MSRP. Another option is, do you live near a rural area? One theory is that Priuses are not as popular in rural areas as in cities, and you might find a dealer with a Prius they want to unload. I've heard that every Toyota dealer got at least one Prius. You could call all the small-town dealers around you--depends on how far you're willing to travel to get the car.

    As for discounts... given that you want a Prius in the next three weeks, I think you will be very lucky to pay just MSRP for it.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    There's no law about using one's spare time to contribute a lot to particular Town Hall boards. If you want to see some people with a lot of time on their hands, check out the Mazda3 board--or practically any Mazda board for that matter. has to buy entire disk farms just for those folks. ;-)

    But of course, you can use the handy "page down" key to move through any posts that aren't worth your time.
  • john1701ajohn1701a Posts: 1,897
    I bought a bluetooth enabled phone just yesterday (a Sony Ericsson T610). It isn't even activated yet. But once I get it up & running, I'll be able to help out.

    Here's the short & sweet instructions for that particular phone:

    1) Select "Add Phone" button in the "Settings" menu on the Multi-Display.

    2) Select "Connectivity", then "Bluetooth", then "My Devices", then "New Device" on the phone.

    3) Enter the passcode when prompted. (On T610, the default is "1212").

    4) Select "My Devices", then "Hands Free" on the phone.
  • john1701ajohn1701a Posts: 1,897
    I've done that TWICE!

    Both with my 2001 Prius (44/42 PSI & 5W-30 Castrol Syntec) and with my 2004 Prius (44/42 PSI & 5W-30 Mobil 1).

    The gain of several MPG is pretty obvious. With the 2001, I maintained 50 MPG all throughout last summer. That was pretty sweet! And the tires weren't even LRR, they were just oridinary Goodyears.

  • Does anyone have any suggestions/recommendations for reliable dealerships with inventory? I live in central VA but I'm willing to drive north if needed. Are all of the Prius colors and packages on back order? Any suggestions re. inventory, pricing and options would be appreciated. Thanks!
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I did find a Tideland Pearl Prius on eBay apparently with no "Buy it Now" price. I'm considering..... But I better think fast as the auction ends in 2 days. I may just pass it and find a rural dealer maybe 40 miles away and try to locate a Prius.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    The Prius is probably going to go to my friend, who wants a Prius before Christmas, whereas I can wait it out till April or May when prices fall slightly.
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    ok folks - if you aren't fond of someone's posts, don't respond to them and just carry on. What may be worthless to you may be exactly the answer someone else is looking for.

    This is an extremely popular topic with many view points. Agree to disagree, be civil, etc.
  • Now have over 2000 miles and my overall average mpg is 52.1, including many miles at 65 miles per hour. My high for a tank was 56, my low was about 48 ( all stop and go real city mileage.) You cannot drive this car like any other car and expect to get that mileage. You need to learn when to let the car coast, how to go up hills and not burn gas to the extreme, etc. It is already instinctive to me and I do not have to look at the bars for reinforcement.
  • Do you read all the posts in all forums? Just curious, as it would seem to be almost overwhelming if it is just you. Which is your favorite forum?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    If you want a Prius in April or May, you might want to order it soon. In my area at least, the backlog at all the dealers I checked was running 4-6 months. As for prices falling in April or May--I think that's anybody's guess. The way things are going now with orders, it's possible the entire 2004 model run will be sold out by early next year, unless Toyota increases production.
  • The only two squawks I have are an occasional base vibration from the speaker in the driver's side door. And, on two occassions, it would not go into drive when I first started it but I think I moved the handle too quickly. Waited a couple of seconds, tried again and it worked. Otherwise, seems trouble free. I did not have the check engine light, any apparent allignment problems, or any other issues I have read on other boards. What are your findings?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    How are you finding the cargo cover holding up? It seemed a little flimsy when I looked at it during test drives. Do you use it?
  • Could anyone comment on the safety of a Prius v. that of a Mini Cooper? I have narrowed my buying choice down to these two cars. All I read about is the great gas mileage. Nowhere do I see anything about safety, especially as compared with other cars.
  • xcelxcel Posts: 1,025
    Hi Greyscale:

    ___The Mini Cooper tested well in NHTSA’s crash tests w/ 4 Star ratings across the board other then the Side Impact - Rear seat with the testing body saying it was too small? Under the IIHS ratings, a (G) – Good rating was given across the board other then an (A) – Average rating for Restraints/Dummy Kinematics … whatever that means?

    ___In the case of the 04 Prius, nothing has been tested although I thought I remember reading somewhere that Toyota expected to receive 4 to 5 Stars across the board in the NHTSA tests.

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne R. Gerdes
  • Ordered 11/7 from Newbold Toyota in Fairview Heights, IL Driftwood Pearl / #9. Got a call today that the vehicle is built and schedule to go to port today! Woohoo! Possible delivery before Christmas.

    ___Prius vs. Mini Cooper I would suggest that you also review the Consumer Reports evaluations on vehicle reliability. I was interested in the Mini Cooper but their evaluation, plus a friends experience with British vehicles, turned me away.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    I looked at the Prius but have a Mini Cooper S on order. Both cars have a full array of safety equipment and the Cooper has crash-tested well. I'm sure the Prius will also. While you can always find differences in safety scores, I don't think it is a significant differentiator between these two cars.

    As talleyid said, the Mini is doing poorly in reliability ratings and I expect the 04 Prius (like most Toyotas) to do well, although there is always some risk down the road of there being some serious flaw in the hybrid design. Any car can develop serious problems, but overall, I'd consider the Prius a very good bet.

    Much of the Mini's problems are probably attributable to early teething of a new German design, but we need more miles on the newer models to know if things have improved much. I doubt it has much to do with it being assembled in the UK - it's basically a German car. If you decide on the Cooper, go in with your eyes wide open. The fun-to-drive nature of the car was so overwhelming to me that I decided to accept some risk.

    - Mark
  • Has anybody rented an 04 Prius through the TRAC program? I'm in the Twin Cities area (south burbs)and am interested in an extended test drive, so TRAC seems like a nice option. However the closest I can find around here is St Cloud. They do have cars available (for about $35/day).

    Do any of you other MN people know of a closer in Toyota dealer that has TRAC rentals?

  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    and test our Prius right now and if it sacrifices braking HP during severe/panic braking in favor of battery charging it's gonna get TORCHED, immediately.

    But truthfully I suspect long stopping distances are more the result of smallist contact patches, and maybe some contribution from ABS, rather than regeneration.
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