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BMW 7-Series Maintenance and Repair

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  • I bought a 02 740il in November with 52000 miles on it. The dealer is telling me that the rear ball joints are worn along with upper rear suspension links.Repair cost is $1250.This is my first BMW and my question is,is this the kind of quality I can expect from a $70000 automobile? If ball joints wear out at 52000 miles, what's next? I'm thinking about selling it and trying a Lexus. Any thoughts?
  • wabendswabends Posts: 102
    I thought the last 740il was in 2001.

     

    For a first time BMW buyer, you may have to read more from this forum before you decide. I am about to get my 3rd beamer this weekend and information from this forum has been invaluable.

     

    Although you are not paying $70K for the car, worn rear ball joints at 52K miles is not the norm. The wear and tear on a car depends on how it was used and/or maintained by previous owners.

     

    My 2 cents...
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    More like 80K miles for those, but as wabends said, it depends on who's driving and how he/she has treated the car.

     

    If you want fewer repairs and less maintenance, statistically speaking, perhaps a Lexus would be a better bet for you, although once a Lexus DOES need a repair, it's not going to be appreciably cheaper than a BMW to fix.

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  • wabends an Mr. Shiftright,

    Thanks for your responses- very helpful.

    Wahoo21

     

    p.s. wabends, you are correct. hat was a typo on my part. My car is a 2001
  • devondevon Posts: 2
    Hello everyone, I'm thinking about buying a 745i, but when I read Consumer Report,I have second thoughts. It seems as if the car will be in the shop more than I will be driving it. I know everyone is bias but can you tell me why I should get the 745i instead of an Acura TL, something that is more reliable.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    Because nothing drives like a 745. You have to jump from car to car in one day and you'll have your answer --- or if it isn't dramatically different for you than buy the TL!

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  • anyone can help me the light is staying on my 98 740il the p light when i park it overnight is this a common problem
  • I have owned my 2003 745Li since November 2002. While it has taken a while to get used to the ugly exterior, the car is the best I've ever owned. The only problem I've had in over 2 years is that I continue to park too close to the parking curbs and my little flap in front of the front tire continues to come off. But, I've had no mechanical problems, and it is, by far, the most fun to drive. By the way, regarding the bad press on iDrive, if you can work a mouse on your PC, you can master iDrive. Don't believe everything you read in the media, including Consumer Reports. Is the Acura supposed to be more reliable? Who cares? It's a Japanese car with Japanese handling.
  • devondevon Posts: 2
    Thanks. That's why I pose the statement to you all. When I hear electrical problems and AC problems plagues this beautiful car,you have to practical and say maybe I should try something else. But, I think you've sold me.
  • My mom has a 1997 740i with 72k miles. She used to drive it alot, but much less in the past few years (<10k / year). I am going to be driving the car now, at least for the next couple years, and am considering buying an extended warranty from an independent insurer. The best quote I received was $2300 for major component coverage for 4 yrs / 112k miles, i.e. 50k miles in addition. Basically, I don't have any experience with this model in the 7-12 year 70-120k mile range, and am thus unsure whether the warranty is worth it. Of course, I need to check the fineprint of the warranty to make sure it actually does what it says it does, but assuming its good, is it worth it? I'm inclined to say yes, but I'd love to hear feedback from the experts. Thanks alot.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    Might be worth it depending on the "exclusions" in the warranty. I'd spend a whole night reading it.

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  • I have a 2001 740il.About two months ago I started it and by the time i got out of my neighborhood it was hucking and bucking and barely running and a check engine light was on. I pulled over, turned the car off and re started it and everything was fine and has been until this morning. On my way to work I stopped to get coffee and when I got back in the car and started it, it felt like I had little or no power steering. I pulled over, cut the car off and re started it and everything is fine. It's almost as if the car is running Windows98. Has anyone ever had a similar problem?

    Thanks,

    KDA
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    You need to have the codes scanned I think. There are so many things it could be. Could be sticking injector, bad plugs wires, bas sensor, etc. etc.

     

    You might try a can or two of dry gas in the tank just in case you picked up some grungy gas somewhere with water in it.

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  • This message is for Mr. Shift Right. I finally got an estimate on fixing the leak from my heater core on my 1997 740I. My mechanic, said he would replace the heater core for me. The job will take approximately 2 days to complete. The cost will be 1,000.0 plus any hoses he has to replace, but the job should cost no more than 1200.0. The price at the dealer was approximately 2300.0. I hope this is going to solve my problem. I have to get it fixed regardless, even if I sell it or keep it. Just wanted you to know, that I didn't forget about u, and your advice. Thank you.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    Well it's a shame you have to do that on a car only 8 years old. Heater cores, like radiators, do clog, corrode, etc. Maybe once they dig in there with the back hoe they will only find a broken hose or something.

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  • mjc3mjc3 Posts: 3
    I own a 2001, 740i , which currently has 60K miles. Purchased as a Certified Pre-owned when it had 42K miles. The car has been great, no significant problems to speak of, except for one nagging item -- it appears to have what I would consider to be an excessive level of wind-noise coming from the sunroof area when the sunroof itself is closed, and the "sunroof panel" is pulled all the way back. The noise level is fine up to about 40 mph, however then increases significantly at 50 mph and above. When I close the "panel" it is much less noticeable, however whenever it is open, it sounds excessive.

     

    I have driven in a friends 97 7401, which seemed much quieter ... and even the 3 series loaner at the BMW Service center is quieter. The dealership replaced the sunroof "seal", however that does not appear to have helped much.

     

    Is this just normal for a 2001 740i, and/or is there some history of this problem, with common fixes identified. The dealership doesn't appear to "hear" the noise as much as I do, or so they say. All I know is that it is a heck of a lot noisier than any car I have owned before.

     

    Any advise/help would be appreciated.

     

    Thanks,

     

    mjc3
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    If you can observe that the roof is closing very tightly and evenly all around the seal, then your only recourse would be an aftermarket wind-shield of some sort---they work but they can be a bit ugly.

     

    Sunroofs are adjustable by the way. If you notice any un-evenness around the sunroof seal when it is closed, this can be adjusted out.

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  • mjc3mjc3 Posts: 3
    Mr. Shiftright -- thanks for your response.

     

    From all appearances, it does look like the roof is closing tightly and evenly, so that is why I don't quite understand the wind noise. I thought the new seal would correct it. Maybe as you have suggested the Sunroof needs to be adjusted somehow. Is this an issue that has been seen with any frequency that you are aware of, or does it just sound like a one-off problem that I am having. For all I know, it could be normal for 740's to have a bit more wind noise, although I doubt it. My old Mercedes with over 200K miles was whisper quiet whenever the sunroof was closed, and I would expect at least as much from

    BMW. Anyways thanks for your response ... I guess I'll take it back to the dealer for another look.

     

    mjc3
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    It might not be quite snug enough. Are you talking about a 'whistling' kind of noise, high-pitched, or a very low, loud "drumming"?

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  • mjc3mjc3 Posts: 3
    Mr. Shiftright:

     

    The sound is more of a higher pitched whistling noise. I took it back to the dealer today & had the foreman out for a test drive. He confirmed that it did seam a bit louder than normal, although not significantly in his opinion. So he took it back in the shop and did some re-adjusting make sure it was settled in full compliance with the specs. The result -- a bit better, however still not what I would expect for a higher-end car. I'll probably take to another dealer next week to get a second opinion.

     

    Thanks,

     

    mjc3
  • looking for a set rear sides and rear shades anyone thanks for your help
  • HI EVERYONE JUST PICK UP A 98 740IL CAR IS LIKE NEW ONLY THING IS THAT IT HAS 150K ON CLOCK THE MANUAL SAYS TRANSMISSION OIL IS GOOD FOR LIFE ,WAS WOUNDERING IF THIS TYPE CAR HAS THE MAGNET IN SIDE THAT PICKS UP THE WEAR AND TEAR IN SIDE THE TRANS I TOOK THE CAR TO THE BMW SHOP IN THE CITY, TO RUN FOR ANY CODES HE SAID CAR NEEDS NOTHING AND FOR THE TRANS HE SAID IF ITS NOT LEAKING DONT TOUCH IT ..I AM CONCERN ,I DONT KNOW WHATS IN THERE WITH 150K ANY ADVICE THANKS ..IS THIS MORE LIKE( BLOOD TYPE A OR B THAT IF I CHANGE THE OIL IT MIGHT GO WRONG OR TRANS MIGHT NOT RECONIZE THE NEW OIL AND TRANS MIGHT GO BAD,,,, RIGHT NOW ITS RIDING LIKE NEW BUT HAS 150K A LITTLE WORIED,,,,,,,ANY HELP THANKSSS
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    Hi George,

     

    First off, please turn off your CAPS LOCK. It's hard to read and it sort of violates online courtesy. Many folks will simply not respond to posts done in CAPS LOCK.

     

    But I will, just this once!

     

    I don't think I'd touch the trans unless you can look at the fluid and inspect/smell it. If it looks VERY dirty (like mud instead of pure and clear red) and/or smells like burning cork, you might want to drop it out. I don't see any harm in changing the oil and filter if it is dirty.

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  • Hi All,

    I'm thinking about buying a '00/'01 740 sometime this upcoming May/June. I'm comparing this with a same year LS430/LS400 and S430. I'm already leaning towards the 740, but I'd like some of your opinions in the matter since I don't have much 1st-hand knowledge/info (yet) in this class of cars. I know that quality wise each individual car is different.

    I have done the basic research on Edmunds, so I know that the S was new for '00, and the LS was new for '01, but I still like the 7. I know the 7 is new for '02, but that's a little out of my price range.

    I guess I'm looking for why you would buy the 7 vs the LS or S.

    Quality/Reliability? Handling/Performance? Styling/Image?

    Thanks everyone!

    (This is my 1st actual post, although I have been browsing these forums for some time now.)
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    My personal opinion is that the BMW beats the Lexus mercilessly in all categories you mentioned except reliability. The BMW will probably have little burps and glitches and probably cost more per mile to run.

     

    I've driven both these cars and again, I personally would put up with an occasional spit up and temper tantrum for the benefits of having a car that is much more exciting to drive and a lot more fun to look at.

     

    But if you willing to trade off these things for the edge in reliability, then the Lexus would work better for you.

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  • Thanks MrShiftRight.

    What do you think about the 740 vs (MB) S430 comparison?

    I agree that reliability wise (overall) Lexus probably edges out both BMW & MB, but loses in styling.

    Comparing BMW vs MB though would seem to be a little more difficult.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    I still think the BMW is a better driving car in every respect than the MB. I think the engines are better definitely.

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  • hello everyone,

    i am a new member.

    i just bought a 740 il sport and i am considering to buy the extended (platinum) service warranty. the coverage is for 36mos/36k miles for $3,300 with a $150 deductible. what do you think of it.

    since the car did not come with the owner's manual, i am having difficulty learning to operate its options/equipments. any idea where i can obtain a manual.

    comments and advise are highly appreciated.

    mahalo
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,930
    The dealer sells the manual and probably has it in stock.

    As for the warranty---how many miles are on this car already? Also, I would strongly suggest you read this warranty cover to cover so that you know exactly what is included and excluded.

    You can run up a $3,300 repair bill pretty easily on a 740, especially if you drive a lot.

    If you are out of factory warranty already, it might be a good idea if the exclusions are not too many or too severe.

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