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2013 and earlier BMW X5 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • murmalmurmal Posts: 25
    Wolverine88,

    Can you provide us with the dealer's name and location with the options you have chosen. I am in the market for a 2005 - X5 3.0i and couldn't find any deal in Richmond, VA which is as competitive as yours is.

     

    Thanks in advance,

     

    Murmal.
  • mine is premium package, cold weather package, , rear climate package, xenon, heated wheel, pdc, auto tranmission for invoice + 900.

     

    I didn't get the navigation as I have a van which already has one. I plan to get a PDA based navigation.

     

    the dealer is bmw of ann arbor, michigan.

     

    Btw, is it good to buy

     

    window etching (anti-theft) for 200

    and 6 year maintanene upgrade for 1300

     

    Thanks.
  • murmalmurmal Posts: 25
    wolverine88,

    Thanks for the response. I don't know about 6 yr

    maintenance upgrade. But I would strongly suggest

    you visit this link http://www.carbuyingtips.com/scams.htm?x=0tekxgl_eoyyqkz_ttky3&am- p;y=0x25x62x62x40 to learn more about the scams.

     

    Murmal.
  • Will someone tell me if "fleetservices.com" is legit?? I can't understand how they can beat the Boston area BMW Dealers by thousands of dollars...the only catch is you have to ship the car from wherever..in this case Beverly Hills, CA to Boston for $800. Anyone know someone who purchased this way??
  • rinirini Posts: 1
    we are buying the x5 and were offered $46,800/ it has cold weather, rear climate premium package, xenon lights and heated stering wheel. Does anyone have a better offer?

    We are in ohio.

    Thanks. what was on you x5 that came to 45,500??
  • We are looking at two CPO X5 3.0s.

     

    One an '01 with 32,000 miles, good options and priced at $36,900 with an Edmunds TMV as a CPO of $32,840. The '01 has 2.9% factory financing which will save us $900 over the course of a three year loan compared to 5% financing. I think that the dealer built this into the asking price!

     

    The second one is an '02 with with 42,000 miles similar options, priced at $38,900 with an Edmunds TMV of $36336 as a CPO (The CPO is worth a premium over an above dealer retail.). There is no extra special financing , only 4.9% from BMW.

     

    I'd like to ask the board several questions:

     

    1) We tend to keep cars for 10 or so years from new and out to 110,000 miles or so. Will an X5 be suitable for this kind of retention or will it nickel and dime us? Should be go for a stick shift if we are going to keep it that long (I've read the BMW automatics aren't great, despite being made by ZF).

     

    2) Given the only 10k price gap from a new '05 (see above post) should we just buy a new one?

     

    3) At what price level do the above cars make sense? Below Edmunds TMV with CPO?

     

    Thanks,
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,256
    1) I wouldn't go with a stick because of fear of repairs from the automatic... Of course, any car you keep for ten years may need major repairs at some point...

     

    2) Yes, at those prices, you should just get a new one.. or a leftover '04, if the deals are good.

     

    3) The above cars? I'd rather have the low mileage '01, but I think a price closer to $30k would be more in the ballpark. The lower financing helps..

     

    On the used ones, the expiration date of the CPO warranty would be my major concern.. If the '01 has an in-service date of 10/00, then it has less than 2 years of CPO warranty left... On the other hand, if the '02 in-service date is 09/02, then you have almost 4 years of warranty left... So, even though they are one-model year apart, the warranty expiration could vary greatly, depending on what time of year they were first sold.... it could also vary in the other direction, of course...

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • Kydfx, thanks. Maybe you and Terry should start an on line consulting service? You do the number crunching and Terry provide the background/running commentary for the numerically challenged (e.g., "enthusiasts don't buy cars, buyers buy cars")?
  • gnailuhgnailuh Posts: 13
    I'm told by a dealer that there's this MACO charge he's charged. Here's his quote.

     

    "MACO is a fee charged to all

    Bay Area Region dealers at 1% of the base invoice price of the car.

    In the case of the 2005 X5 3.0 MACO would be $381 because the base

    invoice is $38,105."

     

    This this correct? Is there such a thing as MACO?

     

    THanks.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,256
    MACO is an advertising charge that BMWNA adds to the invoice in most metropolitan areas... I don't recall it being a set percentage of MSRP, but a charge of $200-$450 per unit is typical..

     

    But, that is part of the dealer's cost, not yours... unless you negotiate $XXX over invoice.. In that case, you have to take that charge into account.

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • gnailuhgnailuh Posts: 13
    thank you kyfdx... that's exactly the situation i'm in, $500 over invoice for a new X5... plus MACO... sounds too good to be true, but let's see how it plays out.
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    im considering an 05 X5 3.0, black on beige, premium, auto, xenon, coldweather. how much over invoice am i looking forward to pay for?

    its my 1st time buying an suv, so comments would be really appreciated. thanks

      

     one more thing, is the pastel green interior available for USspec x5?
  • zoranzoran Posts: 68
    i purchased in california bay area, 4.4, @750 over invoice plus MACO excellent customer service from a bmw dealer for a chanhe.
  • What is good deal on following:

    2003 BMW X5 3.0 13249 miles

    Premium Package

    Cold Weather Package

    Xenon Headlights

    Woodgrain

    Light Green Metallic Paint

     

    Not a CPO; original warranty and maintenance till

    9/07. Dealer says it cost them $5,000 to have them CPO, but would be half ($2,500) if I do directly through BMW, says I can do anytime before the warranty runs out. Is this true? Car was purchased at dealership and resold by original owner who left the country to dealership. I plan to verify with Carfax, dealer offered to do it for me. I will be returning as soon as I can come up with price to offer.

     Listing Price: $38,895.

    Appreciate any feedback and assistance on what price to offer and CPO costs and truths. Also Consumer reports lists that vechicle can lift wheels in high avoidance manuevers. Has anyone experienced this?

    Thanks for the help!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,256
    The extended warranty plan is only available to the original owner or lessee... If they don't CPO the car, and you buy it used, you will NOT be able to add the warranty later...

     

    Their payment to BMW to CPO the vehicle is about $1200.. They may have other costs to bring it up to CPO standards, but in general the total cost is only $1500-$2500... and probably on the low end, considering that car only has 13K miles.

     

    It sounds like they don't want to CPO the car.. Probably one of three reasons..

     

    1) With the low mileage, they think they can sell it easier without the CPO.

     

    2) They sense price resistance from you, and think they can't get the CPO cost back on purchase.

     

    3) There is something that disqualifies the car from the CPO program. (prior major body damage, manufacturer buyback, etc..)

     

    The $5K BS, and the "prior owner left the country", and the misinformation about buying the CPO warranty later... Those would all make me very nervous about this car and this dealer.

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • Thank you for the prompt response. I did not give any indication on price resistance as my initial conversation was over the phone. I did a quick test drive of the car later in the day just before the dealer ship closed and did not discuss dollars. Your responses 1) and 3) sound more probable. It sounds like I should push to have the car CPO'ed to remove any doubt as to the car's worthiness. Any suggestion on price if it was CPO'ed? They have lowered the price to $37,985 in an ad in this morning's local paper. I am located in Central (upstate) New York.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,256
    I don't really follow the prices of X5s.. So, I'm probably not the best judge of what you should pay...

     

    You might start a search of BMWUSA.com and autotrader, ebay, etc... to get a feel for prices.. Of course, realizing that BMW CPO units usually have unrealistic asking prices..

     

    I might just pass this unit up, considering the response they have given you so far.. If they are unwilling to CPO it, getting them to do it may not enhance your negotiating position..

     

    Are you anywhere near Utica? Carbone BMW has a good reputation, but they are small, and may not have much inventory.. Of course, if that is where you are shopping, then.. never mind..lol

     

    I just don't get any warm fuzzy feelings from the guys you are talking to.. But, of course, that is just from one phone conversation..

     

    One thing I would ask for.. A BMW vehicle history report... The service advisor can print that out in one minute, so don't let them tell you they can't give it to you.. That will have all info on warranty expiration (which you already know) and any service issues the car has had... Sometimes those reports can be enlightening... Watch for any white-out and re-copying on the report they give you..

     

    Good luck..

    kyfdx

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  • I did look at the CPO's on BMWNA and they had similar mileage similar option x5's for about the same or $1-3,000 higher. So for the asking price this X% should have been a CPO given the listed (starting price). Thank you for your suggestions. I am not shopping at Carbone,but will look them up.
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    does anyone know if the pastel green interior is available for US market x5? thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,256
    Do you mean exterior?

     

    The gray-green is gone.. There are two greens available..

     

    One is called Olivine.. this is a lighter green, and there is Highland Green.. a darker green.. I don't think either look like the old gray-green, though...

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    i mean pastel green interior, from your response im guessing theyre never available for US market, that sucks :(
  • Can someone explain if either of above are added to purchase price or are included in the msrp price listing. Thank you.
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    i do think it varies by state, as I heard they decided to drop off the gas guzzler tax here in WA
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    never mind my previous post, i checked w/ my friend at the dmv and he said the gas guzzler tax is still on
  • twm67twm67 Posts: 1
    I just made a deal for my first X5, my first BMW, and a car both my wife and I have been interested in for a long, long time. Also, it will be my wife's daily driver, and our "nice car." Without any ado, the particulars.

     

    It's a lease, and I thought the terms were pretty good. Not the best ever, but good.

    MSRP - 49,370 (X5 3.0i, Sterling Grey, Black, Step., Premium, Cold, Rear Climate, Xenons, Heated S. Wheel)

    Selling price - 47,432

     

    (Someone needs to check the TMV...)

     

    628.64 / month, 15k mi./ year. 36 Months, 58% Residual.

     

    $3,436 up front (1,128 taxes, 307 MV fees, 650 security, 98 doc. fee, 628 1st payment and 625 bank fee)

    Money factor .00140

     

    My dealer was Open Road BMW in Edison, NJ. It was a WONDERFUL experience. I made an initial email inquiry, a few emails and phone calls later and a deal was struck. I picked up the car earlier this week.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,918
    TMV is just the average selling price for the vehicle, not the best you can do. You did GREAT, and you seem incredibly pleased with your vehicle. Congratulations!

     

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  • I was just curious if anyone thought this was a good price. It was the end of month and I found this awesome fully loaded one!

     

    2005 X5 3.0i, Silver

    Premium Package, Climate Package, Cold Weather Package, Sport Package, Xeon Headlamps, Navigation System, Parking Control,Premium Hi Fi Radio system

     

    MSRP - $55,770

    Selling price - Invoice + 800 = $51,825 (includes MACO fee)

     

    How did I do guys?
  • sdguysdguy Posts: 1
    sdsf501,

     

    Which dealer did you get this deal from.
  • Hi Sdguy,

    I got the price from BMW of Escondido. Is that a pretty good price?
  • I'm looking at an X5 lease in the Baltimore area and would like to know how much over invoice are dealers allowed to go. I know they are running a Feb lease special but at an MSRP of $45,490 how low can they go? Welcome anyone who has done a lease this month. Thanks.
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