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Audi A3

chrisducatichrisducati Posts: 394
I'm a big fan of Audi. I am hoping for the 3 door A3 to be here soon. I know the 5 door is coming first but that isnt the Hot hatch the 3 door is. If your listening Audi, do us right here in the states, give us your wonderful A3 hatch.
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  • vikdvikd Posts: 187
    ...I hope so! I really, really hope so... Wait, I have 2 kids and am already growing out of my GTI...oh well. Back to sports SEDAN shopping for me...

    Regards... Vikd
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Posts: 1,308
    I'm wondering if they're thinking that bringing the 3 door over here would cut into GTi sales. Perhaps they'll market the 5 door as a GTi for people who need more doors (like me.)
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,621
    younger buyers like them cuz they don't have multiple cars so the GTI does OK but the more expensive Audi hatch would probably bust thru the price ceiling for hatches. Saab abandoned it's 3-door model a few years back.

    Europeans of course don't have such silly prejudices but they too don't have mulitple cars for the most part.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • I know most Americans are bigger is better people which is something I have yet to understand. I grew up riding in the back of my dad's R 17 and my mom's VW 411 and missed the whole Vista cruzer thing. Oh and no matter what anyone says I believe GM was the reason Saab moved away from the three door. If you will look at Saab's history they have made sedans also. My parents had a Saab 99 that was a sedan. But back to the A3. It is a great car. I hope the company can over look the US markets short mindedness and offer the 3 door to the few that love to drive these types of cars.
  • I saw an Audi A3 today in a parking garage in Cincinnati! Is it even on sale yet? I guess so, at least for this person!
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Posts: 1,308
    Europeans of course don't have such silly prejudices but they too don't have mulitple cars for the most part.
    It's not a silly prejudice, it's selecting greater practicality over less in the same car. Between a three door GTI and a five door A3, I know where I'd slap my money down.
  • asafonovasafonov Posts: 373
    If that's true - please confirm or disagree - I wonder how many people would pay a hefty premium over the already-expensive VW offerings for perhaps little more than a 4-circle badge. Oh wait, that's what many of us do with brand-engineered cars. Getting a A4/A6 inspired Passat for 2/3 of the price of an Audi is another thing...

    I drove a rental A3 in Switzerland in the winter of 99, got a free upgrade from a cheaper Renault, don't remember why. Handled great, with 3 not-so-small people and some luggage. But still, priced at, extrapolating from Golfetta and A4 costs, 25-30k USD? Not a great bargain...
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,621
    the A3 5-door will have to sell for no more than $26/27....any more and you're in A4 Avant 1.8T territory. The A3 is no bargain in Europe and it won't be here.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • vikdvikd Posts: 187
    ...will only work, if at all, in 3 door config. It would have to truly be the entry level veh for Audi. Peoeple looking for 5 dr utility would look to cheaper, roomier offerings while people looking for a sporty hatch with a certain amount of cache may snag it up...they already do in GTI form; the GTI being the most substantial, in performance and relative refinement/lux, on the market now. I know that if the A3 was available when I purchased my GTI, I would have bought it then. I'd like one now but for the fact that the hatch is cramping my fatherhood responsibilities already...

    Regards... Vikd
  • I think he means Europeans don't have the idea that small cars should all be cheap cars. "price ceiling for hatches". In the USA a lot of people connect size with price. In small town america the average billy bob thinks because a GTI is small it should be priced like a KIA Rio. He can't understand the quality issues. Not to say Kias are bad cars they just can't match the materials of a VW/Audi
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,876
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  • m3fanm3fan Posts: 30
    I sincerely hope Audi will bring the 3-door to North America.

    I think they are trying to score bigger points with 5-door than Mercedes-Benz did with their C230 Coupe when it was introduced as a premium entry-level hatch/coupe.

    Give me a 3-door Audi A3 with the new 2.0T, 200hp, 6-speed, price it around US$25k or CAD$35k and offer it in the fall of 2004 and I'll sign on the the dotted line now.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    The hatch should be no more than $28K for the S3 performance model because if you price it higher, you'll be competing with your own A4.
  • zaimonzaimon Posts: 124
    I was just flipping through the newest issue of Road and Track which had a small blurb on the 5 door A3 sport tourer. Although the magazine did not confirm that the 5-door would be making its way to the US, they said that it's to compete with the Mazda3.

    I wish I could find a photo online, it looked amazing!
  • zaimonzaimon Posts: 124
    A3 Sport Tourer
    A3 Sport Tourer

    For your viewing pleasure. The photo of the orange/copper 5-door is the one featured in Road and Track. There is speculation that these photos are photoshops.

    I sure hope it comes to the US!
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    look like photo-shops. The grille is exactly the same as the grille on the upcoming Audi A6 that was previewed in Automobile a few months back.
  • zaimonzaimon Posts: 124
    That's actually Audi's new grille. It's going to find its way to all Audi's by the next generation A4. I have a feeling that the first photo is fairly close to what we're going to see (the sketch in the photo is real)...

    I misposted the second link (A3 Sport Tourer). I think this would actually be the photoshop (different rear-passenger window, different belt-line, different roofline). Road and Track comments on the design cues of the orange car shown on the sketch.
  • zaimonzaimon Posts: 124
    That's actually Audi's new grille. It's going to find its way to all Audi's by the next generation A4. I have a feeling that the first photo is fairly close to what we're going to see (the sketch in the photo is real)...

    I misposted the second link (A3 Sport Tourer). I think this would actually be the photoshop (different rear-passenger window, different belt-line, different roofline). Road and Track comments on the design cues of the orange car shown on the sketch.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Does Audi want to bring in younger buyers (what Saab is doing with the 9-2X) or does it want to broaden the Audi brand?
  • zaimonzaimon Posts: 124
    The A3 isn't really making the Audi brand any more broad than it already is. The A4 is quite compact and offers everything and more that an A3 can offer.

    I'd say, making the model lineup more financially accessible to potential A3 buyers improves the chances of future Audi A4/A6 owners.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    making the Audi brand more affordable naturally bring in younger buyers, as more people with less income can finally sign and drive an Audi?
  • Since I still can't gt past the $30k mark, or even the $25k mark without hassle...most of the cars I love and treasure are just a bit out of reach...but the ideas of Saab 9-2X and Audi A3 might have me saving up.

    Then again, I just read a sweet heart review of the new Volvo S40. I might have to go back and re-evaluate that one, since I liked the older version well enough to consider buying it. The new one is supposed to finally put Volvo on the field with the A4s, Passats, and 9-3s of the world, and be an affordable option to the S60, 3-series and C-series.

    I do think the Audi A3 is a good looker though, well worth considering if they keep it affordable for the intenders of the market. Those people who would "if only."
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    seems nice to me, along with the S40. The 9-3 is nice, and you can grab one under $30K. (Linear model)
  • is ugly...they have posted some spy shots on the Edmund's 1-series discussion and I have to say...yuck!

    Check that one off the list. Looks too much like the old Z3 Coupe, which had odd proportions to me...I don't like a car that looks like out of proportion.
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    I've seen two A3s driving through my neighborhood in LA now. A three door and a five door, both black. Really sharp looking. Obviously Audi is serious about bringing it to our market.
  • stehersteher Posts: 37
    Hey redrluv,

    it's not possible to see a NEW 5-door A3 in LA, because the 5-door A3 doesn't exist yet, even here in Germany. Perhaps it was the old model built from 1996-2003?!
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    It was the new body style for sure and had five doors. Didn't look big enough to be the A4 wagon and the 3 door was following close behind. Although, I only got a good close-up look at the three door when I saw it again a week later.

    I have heard that the US market is only getting the 5 door so maybe it is being tested now? I was very surprised to see both really.
  • fineurfineur Posts: 1
    A current A4 owner, I have seen many A3s in Europe and they are very attractive. Also attractive and a bit smaller is the A2, which has gained in popularity in the last couple of years. Have seen many more of both vehicles on recent visits to Sweden and Norway. Predict they will be a hit in the US, particularly as higher gas prices bring Americans into the 21st century.
  • harlequin1971harlequin1971 Posts: 322
    back open...anyone have any info to share on the A3?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    What kind of car is this? I read somewhere a few years back that Audi claimed the A2 could get 100 MPG or something.
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