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Nissan Titan vs. Ford F150



  • boomer1bboomer1b Posts: 348
    You DID go to the "darkside" ! Traded your GMC for a *ford* huh? I was wondering from your posts if you did !
    Thats cool.............enjoy !

    BTW: I traded my 01 2500 x-cab 4x4 for another 04 2500 Chevy recently.........
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    I never really "needed" the 3/4 ton with the 8.1 but in '01 the F150 had no room in back for my 6' tall sons and the 5.4 felt pretty weak compared to the massive enging th the 2500. After replacing the Allison trans twice in the first 6 months the truck lost it's appeal. It served me well enough but I only used it's hualing capacity a few times a year. It was 3 1/2 years old and I was ready for something new.

    BTW "Ford" is spelled with a CAPITAL :)
    Did you go with the Duramax?
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    I just looked at the window invoice of my '03 Dakota and it does not mention being built by UAW workers, either. However, I understand your point. I'm pretty sure the Symrna, Tennesee plant is unionized -- or was -- when I bought my '93 Sentra, that's why I questioned the original comment.

    Yes, I agree emphatically with the reliance on M1911A1 rather than 911. Especially since I've seen the 911 response fail. Intertestingly, my son has just returned from Iraq where, in his particular role must carry a sidearm -- he sports a 92M. Since I at one time owned one of those, too, I couldn't help but wish he still could have access to a 1911. It would make me feel better, anyway!

  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    no. no american nissan factories, either assembly or component, are union shops.
  • The redesigned Ford F-150 earned the top spot as the most popular pickup with shoppers on MSN Autos for the second quarter of 2004. The F-150 was also the fifth most popular vehicle overall for the same time period.
    The Toyota Tacoma, a consistently popular compact pickup, was second with shoppers for the second quarter of the year. A sporty truck with nostalgic styling, the all-new Chevrolet SSR was third on the list.

    The list of the ten most popular pickups on MSN Autos is based on visits to the site's vehicle research pages during the second quarter, April through June, of the year. Here is the complete list:

    1. Ford F-150
    Ford's half-ton pickup line is redesigned for 2004 with a stronger, bolder look and five distinct versions: XL, STX, XLT, FX4 and Lariat, each with unique styling. Regular Cab and SuperCab versions are six inches longer and the Regular Cab adds rear-hinged panels to access behind-seat storage. The complete F-Series line has been the best-selling truck in America for 26 straight years and the best-selling vehicle overall for 21 years.

    2. Toyota Tacoma
    The Tacoma is in its sixth generation and is now available in Regular Cab, extended Xtracab and 4-door Double Cab configurations. For 2004 Vehicle Stability Control is available as an option on PreRunner and 4-wheel-drive trims with V6 engines. The current Tacoma was designed in the U.S. and is built in the New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc. factory in Fremont, Calif.

    3. Chevrolet SSR
    The SSR is a sporty two-seat pickup that takes its styling cues from Chevrolet trucks of the 1940s, but includes a thoroughly modern power-retractable hardtop for open-air driving. Powered by a 300-horsepower version of the legendary small-block Chevy V8, the SSR design features large flared fenders and a wide stance, punctuated by 19-inch wheels and tires at the front and 20-inch meats at the rear.

    4. Ford Ranger
    Another popular compact truck with MSN shoppers, the Ranger's updates for 2004 include a raised power dome hood, a nostril grille with horizontal bars on 2WD trims, a honeycomb grille on 4WD trims, a new front valance, a rally gauge cluster, and Ford-style steering wheel.

    5. Dodge Ram 1500
    The Ram 1500 was redesigned with bolder, distinctive Dodge styling for 2002, and the famous HEMI name returned to the line late in 2003 with the 345-horsepower 5.7-liter HEMI Magnum engine. For 2004 the Laramie adds a chrome grille surround, a chrome billet grille center, chrome moldings, silver interior trim, and a unique leather seat design with contrasting colors.

    6. Chevrolet Silverado 1500
    The Silverado replaced Chevrolet's C/K pickup line with all-new styling for 1999. For 2004 a new half-ton 1500 Crew Cab is added. All Silverado 1500 trims now include cruise control, power door locks, a chrome bumper and an AM/FM/CD audio system.

    7. Chevrolet Colorado
    The Colorado is Chevrolet's all-new midsize pickup that replaces the S-10 for 2004. The Colorado is larger and stronger than the S-10 and offers Regular Cab, Extended Cab and Crew Cab versions. Power comes from two new engines: the Vortec 2800 inline 4-cylinder and the Vortec 3500 inline 5-cylinder, both derived from the Vortec 4200 inline 6-cylinder.

    8. Dodge Dakota
    The midsize Dakota continues to be popular, with a Stampede package offered for 2004 including monochromatic front and rear fascia moldings, ground-effect side moldings, 16-inch aluminum wheels, wheel flares and a rear stabilizer bar. The new 2005 Dakota is due this fall with a bigger, bolder look, following the design direction of the Ram.

    9. Toyota Tundra
    Toyota's full-size Tundra received updated styling for 2003 and the Stepside Access Cab was added. The Tundra Double Cab debuts for 2004. This year Toyota focused on rear-seat comfort—a rear-seat DVD entertainment system is offered. The Tundra Double Cab features one of the longest beds available for a double cab half-ton truck.

    10. Nissan Titan
    The first full-size pickup from Nissan, the 2004 Titan offers a fresh alternative in the category. Titan features bold styling with available King Cab and Crew Cab trims, powered by a 305-horsepower 5.6-liter V8 with a 5-speed automatic transmission. A unique feature is a factory-installed Utili-track tie-down system in the bed. The Titan was conceived, developed and engineered primarily in North America and is produced at Nissan's new facility in Canton, Mississippi.


    DEARBORN, Mich., May 19 – The 2004 Ford F-150 truck today captured another major honor – “Truck Interior of the Year” at the Auto Interiors Show in Detroit.

    “This is a fantastic honor for our design team,” said Pat Schiavone, design director, Ford North American Truck. “Our designers spent months listening to customers and pouring over research to give truck owners the comfort, craftsmanship, versatility and features they want and deserve.”

    More than 5,400 automotive industry executives selected the Ford F-150 to win the award based on its overall interior design, functionality and vehicle innovation. Other finalists in the truck competition included the BMW X3, Chevrolet SSR, Dodge Durango Limited, and the Nissan Armada. The Auto Interiors Show held at Cobo Conference Center is the largest industry event in the world dedicated exclusively to car and truck interiors.

    Today's award brings to 30 the number of awards the Ford F-150 has received since its introduction, including the 2004 North American, Motor Trend and Texas Auto Writers “Truck of the Year” plus Car and Driver Magazine 2004 Five Best Trucks - Best Pickup.

    Since the launch of the new F-150 last September, Ford has posted eight consecutive months of F-Series sales increases. For more than 55 years, F-Series has delivered on its Built Ford Tough heritage. F-Series has been America’s best-selling truck for 27 years and the country’s best-selling vehicle for 22 years in a row.
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    That's a big part of what sold me on the Ford this time. Until the '04 model the F150 interior couldn't touch GM. There wasn't any more leg room in back of the supercrew than my ex-cab GMC which was the most comfortable by far IMO

    Now Ford's got it right and I love the rack and pinion if we can just get them to stuff more ponies under the hood.

    Actually I've heard they're offering a 6.2L V8 for 2006. I just couldn't wait another year (or more)
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    all that was for is how many hits that link got. being the best selling vehicle in history, i would hope it can out-hit the chevy SSR.
  • Only time can tell. If Nissan Titan is still drivable in 20 years, then it can be called a good truck, but right now some people are running around praising No. 1 just like No. 1 draft pick Ryan Leaf S.D CHARGER QB?

    "You only have to do a very few things right in your life so long as you don't do too many things wrong."
    ~ Warren Buffett
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    So you're saying the F150 is like Ryan Leaf?

    Seems more realistic to compare Titan to Ryan. Highly praised for his ability when he had no history.

    Ford has had the most popular truck for quite a few years.

    "Only time can tell. If Nissan Titan is still drivable in 20 years..." A lot of people are praising the unproven Titan like the unproven Ryan Leaf.
  • machaanmachaan Posts: 30
    If history is any indicator, Ford automobiles have been more unrealiable than Nissan in general.

    "Truck interrior of the year" is one of the better jokes I have heared in a while. I guess
    DVD player in a truck is more important than it's ground clearence or tow rating.
  • noobie1noobie1 Posts: 326
    Please! We of the Charger persuasion still whence; :-) A name that WILL live in infamy. :-) Comparing anything to Leaf is the ultimate insult! (Actually, he did have a history; Bethard was just so bedazzled by his "gun" that he chose not to look too carefully.)

    When you get right down to it, all this team and brand identification gets a little peculiar and, often and easily swerves into the extreme. I bought my truck because it had what I wanted. I looked at the other alternatives in it's class and decided it met my personal criteria better than the others (including but not exclusively the interior). A different criteria could have put me into a different brand. Perfect in every way? Hardly. I'm aware of its short-comings. But, why do I tend to whence when someone points them out? Is it true or false? Or criticize the brand in general? It's not honor or integrity at steak. It's just a truck, or a team, or a sneaker. Very peculiar. Hmm, do ya think marketing gurus have learned to exploit this tendency?

  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    So, how's all this looking at the real world working out for you?

    Buying a truck to meet your personal criteria? How would it be if everybody just bought what met thier preferences? We would'nt need salespeople. There would be a lot less advertising and we wouldn't know how badly we need something we don't have. Without comercials there would be no network TV. Everybody would have to pay for the channels we actually watch and we'd never know how bad our health is. And worst of all the econamy would be ruined.

    I'm going to go now and take my Nexium and Prozac and "chug" my fiber before it gets gritty.

  • noobie1noobie1 Posts: 326
    :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-). Stop trying to confuse me with the facts.

  • crosley4crosley4 Posts: 295
    I like the Titan, I may replace my 2000 Siverado with a 2005 Titan next year. Hopefully Nissan wil have many of the engineering issues corrected

    Leg room issues with Ford & chevy. I also own a 2001 Super crew F-150 that my wife drives. It has more room in the back seat area than my Silverado x-tra cab
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    i wasnt the one comparing f150 to leaf.

    i simply stated that, since the f150 is the best selling vehicle, its natural that it got more hits than the rest.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    >>>When you get right down to it, all this team and brand identification gets a little peculiar and, often and easily swerves into the extreme.<<<

    In sociology it's referred to as "tribalism," and in general product allegiance appears to be most acute in the Canadian-American culture.

    Although representing the "extreme," people have died or been injured because of automobile brand loyalty.

  • I am comparing Ryan Leaf with the Titan. IMO Ford has been no.1 for years with the exception of some reviews I.E. Edmunds review rating Titan No. 1. this year like the no.1 draft pick Ryan Leaf.....

    San Diego is still paying that guys pay check...

    Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, during the "Things you wouldn't say to.... segment, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    I thought the Nissan salesman was comparing F150 to my teams biggest disaster.

    BTW "interrior of the year" is part of what makes MY F150 a yuppie truck. The GMC 3/4 ton hualed over 3000lb and was still comfortable enough.(Except empty)
  • ercrew/
    This truck may cause me to trade-in...

    "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"
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