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Saab 9-7X

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  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,499
    GM Cancels Saab 9-6X (Inside Line)

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Same here. I need something with room for 7 when relatives visit so we can all be in 1 car.

    I'm fine with the truck based thing. I just need 3 rows of seats and good MPG.

    The 9-6X would have solved the problem, but GM is calling it quits and the 9-6X was aborted.

    I would have loved to own a Saab 3 row crossover.

    I'll be looking at a minivan/Freestyle/Pilot/ possibly XC90 then.

    Guess we're in the same boat. I've never owned a Saab before, but I like them, and so does my son. We'd hate to see Saab die. :(
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    You have to watch the 3 row vehicles to make sure row 3 can actually hold adults. Make sure you climb back there and see with rows 1 and 2 in a normal position.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Most of the times I'll put the kids/teens back there and have the adults sitting towards the front.

    Although in my Odyssey its not really a problem...
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,499
    No one has submitted a rating or Consumer Review either (link at the top). It's on the chopping block in mid-2007 - better go buy one since it's going to be a rare bird.

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  • Are the forums not as active as they have been in the past? It seems to me that there are less posts than there used to be. Either that or the topics that I track have lost some enthusiasm.
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,499
    Nope, still going strong. Maybe you just follow the orphan cars, lol.

    Some of your perception may be because SUV sales are down so new owners posting in SUVs may be down. The buzz is around the new Civic and lots of folks are talking about whether GM will go banko. The Hybrid Vehicles discussions are really hot too.

    Everything goes in cycles. :shades:

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Perhaps it and the 9-2X will be collectables someday... The only Saabs that looked SO much like thier counterparts.
  • I bought my Saab after waiting for a year and passing on the Jeep GC (which I could have gotten at dealer price). I THOUGHT it would be a GREAT CAR. WAS I wrong!. This car has been a bomb from the beginning. First my father was the project engineer on the F-14 from it's inception So much for born from aircraft engineers.. he hates it. you should hear his comments. I bought it for it's supposed sportiness, but I can get my 77 merc 280 sl convert to 80 without a glance and feel safe. This thing can barely hit 65 without me feeling like I'm pushing a tank...and all at an ave. 11.5 a gallon.. oh and 14.3mpg on a long haul hwy drive. FORGET the cargo space of 80 cubic INCHES which is another reason I bought it... it doesn't even fold down flat and the headrests are in the way. and that extra cup holder must have been designed by the the son of the owner or head designer because no competent designer would have allowed it. Mine broke in 48 hours. And there is NO room for anything like change or a large cup in the cup holder when the car is in park. In fact there is NO flat surface anywhere for change or glasses or your phone or well.... anything... do not try to work from this car... no place for your computer. And folks check with the dealer on a regular basis. He MIGHT tell you of all the recalls and problems, because this is the eqivilant of Bill Gate's version of a new version of Window's and then waiting to see what patches will be necessary and so far there have been many including finding my car swamped after a particularly heavy rain...with the rain on the INSIDE, which no one at SAAB said was possible until the dealer received a fax saying... OH BY THE WAY..... and there were more....yup...Bomb....and no way to get out of it..I can't afford to loose the money by trading it in so soon, so I am STUCK....I didn't wasn't to post this to let any potential sucker I might want to sell it to to know what a bomb he would be inheriting but hey the truth is the truth, so I am warning any potential buyers to BEWARE. I hate this car...my jaguar was a dream car compared to this THING.. and don't get me started on the dealership!
  • steverstever Ex Yooper, en route to New MexicoPosts: 40,499
    Bummer. You can be the first to rate this vehicle, if you want to warn those who don't visit the forums. The link is at the top of the posts.

    Hope next year is a better one for you and the 9-7x.

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Bummer. Perhaps your car is a lemon and that you might try pursuing a buyback from GM through Lemon Law.

    Keep in mind this isn't a real Saab and that it is assembled with it's GMT360 counterparts in Moraine, Ohio.
  • stmssstmss Posts: 206
    Maybe. But like many collectables, will need to go through heavy depreciation first.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    True. But if you can take the hit short term in return for the pride of having a rare automobile in the long term, it may be worth it. (or if you have lots of cash to dispose of and want to get something)
  • stmssstmss Posts: 206
    Sure. If the car is working for you why sell if you are taking a big hit. Might as well keep it and hope for the best.

    I have this dilemma with my 9.5. Have three cars (plus 1 restoration project) and looking at getting rid of the 9.5 but the resale is so low might just polish it up park it in the garage and take it out on weekends - rather than give it away. My oldest boy is only 4 yrs from driving and what teenager wouldn't want to drive a Saab?

    Will never be a collector car but might invoke some comments like 'Saab - what is that?'
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Might as well. How much more per year would it cost to keep it running? Insurance, gasoline, and what depreciation is left. Sure beats selling it. At least now you'll have a backup car.

    I'm keeping my Civic for the same reason. It's a backup. The cost of insuring it, gassing it up, and whatever depreciation is left doesn't cost much, so why not keep it?
  • jeffw4jeffw4 Posts: 1
    Just took delivery of a 2006 9-7X. I now have 3 Saabs at home (9-5 wagon, 9-3 and the 9-7X). I believe Saab owners are a breed apart. My first Saab, years ago, was a 900, followed by 2 9000's until my daughter's 9-3.

    This is a given; they are quirky, have terrible resale value, are tough to maintain, but I absolutely love to drive them and have enjoyed every Saab.

    The 9-7X, so far, is acceptable. I can sense that this is not a true Saab, better a GM clone, but it still manages the Saab feel. The other cars I drove in the class (XC-90, Toureg, and Jeep) where not as comfortable. The Jeep Commander, 7 passenger was a joke. Forget the last row, you couldn't sit in the second row!

    You can get "analysis paralysis" buying cars. It still is a "gut" purchase for me and Saabs have treated us well.

    As I rack up miles, I will update it's performance.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I was disappointed with the Commander too this weekend when they displayed it at the mall for people to sample out. That second row is a joke, and getting to that 3rd row is awefully tough.

    The Grand Cherokee they had on display felt roomier. Even the Pacifica they had on display (The dealer is a Chrysler-Jeep dealer) felt roomier.

    Update us on your 9-7X as time passes.
  • stmssstmss Posts: 206
    You can get "analysis paralysis" buying cars. It still is a "gut" purchase for me and Saabs have treated us well.

    How true. Sometimes you just need to drive the car and if it fits your needs and feels right - go for it.
  • I am about to lease a 9-7X for my wife. Any advice on whether I should get her the 4.2 or 5.3? The V8's payment will cost me $20 a month more, which isnt much, but will we waste more money on gas driving the 5.3? I would get the 4.2, but I can't stand looking at the 4.2's wheels and think the 5.3 wheels are really cool...not to mention we get the xenons with the 5.3. Any input would be great.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I would ask myself if those nicer wheels are really worth sacrificing in terms of mileage on the 5.3.

    And does anybody really need a 5.3 in a Saab?
  • Apparently, the gas mileage are almost the same for these 2 models. Anyone have the V8 and opinions?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    If the gas mileage is so close I'd probably just get the 5.3 for the extra power
  • First off, sorry you've had so much unhappiness with your 9-7x. Quite Frankly though, most of what you had to complain about (atleast in the first 70% of your post) could have been determined before you signed on the dotted line. As far as "all the recalls and problems" could you get more specific? I've been trying to talk my wife into a 9-7 and would like to know what EXAXRLY your referring to. I was kind of shocked considering the basis for this truck is several years old. All the door and hatch seals are standard GM from the Envoy/Trailblazer/Rainier, so it simply CAN'T be the model across the board that has that leak issue.

    Good Luck with your issues!
  • I purchased a 2006 9-7x in December. I just picked it up after being in the shop for 3 weeks. Apparently, GM Quality has been having issues with Axle Seals on the Envoy and Trailblazer platform and it took Saab Dealer (not used to dealing with GM supply chain) weeks to figure out how to deal with problem. Car is nice to drive, but the marriage of GM and Saab is not a good one...Get this issue checked out. Process has soured my appeal for the brand...Much like Molson sticks to Beer, Saab should stick to sedans...
  • While my 5.3 was in the shop for 3 weeks the dealer gave me a 4.2 to drive. Gas was not much different around town, if you are ever going to drive it get the v8...worth the $20. If your wife doesn't play keep up with the Jone's or care about brands, the best bet is to get the GM version (Envoy/Trailblazer) and save $100/mo....at least you will have a service team that can fix any problems.
  • any updates since you have had the vehicle for 7 months or so?
  • did you buy one?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Interesting. I'd probably declare the XC90 as the winner based on the information presented as I will never get over the fact that beyond a few modifications, the $42,000 9-7X is nearly identical to the $22,000 Chevrolet TrailBlazer my local dealership advertises every week for $18,999.
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