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Lincoln Aviator Maintenance and Repair

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  • ajmtbmajmtbm Posts: 245
    i would call ford/lincoln customer service and explain the situation and keep working with them until you are satisfied. i wouldnt bother any longer with the dealer.
  • nortosnortos Posts: 2
    We have a 2003 Lincoln Aviator and have had the display for the navigation and radio replaced 3 times due to a problem with the display becoming extremely dim in cold weather. We are still experiencing this problem but there is no fix for it according to Lincoln and Ford - it's a flaw in the display itself, something to do with an internal LCD fault. We looked at the 2004, and 2005 yesterday to compare it to our display and they have the problem. Has anyone else had this problem?

    We feel for the extra $2500 we paid for the navigational system, it should work in all types of weather. We currently have to wait about 20 minutes before you're able to see the map clear enough to use.

    Thanks
  • bcoulterbcoulter Posts: 6
    I own a 2005 Aviator. I notice sometimes that the driver seat seems to move back a very slight bit when accelerating from a stop. Has anyone else noticed this.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
    Yep - all the explorer based SUVs do this, and they have for a long time. I think my 97 explorer did it. Replacing it won't help. You get used to it.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Ditto what akirby said. After a while, it gets somewhat comforting........
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
    Just think of it as a rocker recliner at no extra charge......
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Yeah, akirby, and just think of the mileage you're saving on your Aviator while they rebuild your engine ;)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
  • ajmtbmajmtbm Posts: 245
    92 taurus - same problem. had it adjusted at the dealer, they said that's the way it is.

    apprently, the seats havent changed much in 13 years.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
    IIRC the seats are made by Johnson Controls. You'd think they would have fixed them by now.
  • cangelocangelo Posts: 19
    Just to let you guys know I have a 04 Aviator that had the problem describe above took it to the dealer. They were familiar with the problem sent the seat out to the trim shop and installed a new seat pad and secured it properly also installed a new seat bracket just to make sure all is well after 3 months. They told me it is a problem that does come up on occasion and it took them awile to figure out but they believe in most cases it is the seat cushion not sized or secured right and it does slid ever so sightly when it is torque just right during acceleration or de-acceleration. :shades:
  • 03aviator03aviator Posts: 1
    Hiya, Im not sure if anyone else commented on your "soft noise"coming from the dash yet but I just bought a Avaiator and heard the same damn thing. I determined it to be the analog clock...hahaha.
  • marvelous6marvelous6 Posts: 1
    I recently bought an '04 Aviator with 10,200 miles. It's loaded and has a Concept IDM-888 (aftermarket) stereo/TV/VCD/DVD entertainment system installed. Whoever installed the system did not do a nice job concealing the wiring and A/V multimedia unit. Basically they just placed it under the carpet on the passenger's side. I'm in the process of redoing all of this so I'm getting to know the interior of the vehicle well. There are a couple of scratches I need to touch up around the cup holders and control panels. Can anyone tell me where I can get the right color interior spray touch-up paint? I have the cream leather interior with the silver/tan color on the console fascia, cup holders, door pulls, etc.

    Thanx!
  • slasaterslasater Posts: 1
    Hello ... I have also been having transmission problems, the car sometimes won't shift into a higher gear ... this car is a POS .. sometimes when I try to turn it on, it clicks, the lights flash and I have to get it jumped by a tow truck ... our Ford dealer says he has no idea what's wrong ... also, my memory board and climate control keep shorting out ... I will NEVER buy an American car, EVER again.. what is your experience?
  • mmarketosmmarketos Posts: 6
    I have a serious rattle coming in the vicinity of the drivers side seatbelt adjuster. The damn thing is driving me nuts as it is right next to my ear. I have taken it in twice now to the dealership and they just keep replacing the internal seatbelt adjuster with no effect. Does anyone else have the same problem and a fix? I have taken off the panel myself and poked around in there numerous times, but just can't seem to find anything. It sounds like there is a loose screw/spring, but the spring is intact and not making any noise when I open it up. HEEEELLPP!!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
    The best advice I can give both of you is to find a new dealer. Some service departments are really good and some are just terrible.

    slasater - sounds like an electrical problem - bad ground or short or even a bad PCM. Don't blame Lincoln because the dealer can't troubleshoot it. And I don't think it's logical to think you'll avoid problems by buying only foreign cars. Even Honda and Toyota have problems.
  • ddowlingddowling Posts: 3
    I have the same problem with my 04. Started with driver side - now showing up in passenger side as well. Very annoying. Any help would be appreciated
  • I've been a bmw driver for year with much happiness. I want an SUV now. The X5 is so much more $$ than the Aviator. But maintenance is included in the X5. How much over 3 years will scheduled maintenance and oil changes, etc cost me at the Lincoln dealer? i'm trying to figure out the offsetting costs.

    thanks in advance..
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
    Maintenance is included for the 1st year on the Aviator, so you only have to pay for the last 2 years. Other than oil changes the only major maintenance in 3 years should be a tranny flush (around $200) and even that is optional. Just oil and filters and you can get the oil changed anywhere - not just the dealer. I'd say for 2 years the most you'd pay for maintenance items is $500, and that's being generous.

    Certainly not enough to offset the price difference. I've driven both, including a 4.6i X5 and I prefer the Aviator.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    I think you need to give the Aviator a thorough test drive, and then think about it for a few days, then go drive it again and decide. Because the two are really very different SUVs. I've driven them both quite a bit, but don't own either. The Aviator is extremely refined, easy to drive, extremely responsive to steering, acceleration, handling, etc. Offers American luxury amenities such as Air Conditioned seats, and a third row of seats, which fold pretty much flat to make a floor. The seat is usable for adults (I said usable, ok?). The engine is extremely powerful for the size of the motor, and the towing capacity of the vehicle is best in class. You can have 2WD or full time AWD.

    The X-5 offers little of the above in features, and will handle much differently. You'll feel much more of the road in the ride with some of the BMW weight in the steering. You get bluetooth which is very nice, not available in the Lincoln (Grrrr) but you also only get a single CD player instead of a 6 CD changer. You get seating for only 5, not 7, and not much, if any towing capacity. You're in full time all wheel drive in the Bimmer.

    Neither of these vehicles have distinguished themselves in the "maintenance free" department, with the X-5 up to over 18 recalls I think by now, and the Aviator being famous for failing differentials and what not, but both of them seem to have ironed out their wrinkles since introduction. Be aware though, that the current Aviator is about done with its run, and will be replaced with a new model in 2007, so if you buy one, you'll own a classic really soon, if that matters to you.

    Personally, even if they were the same price, I'd buy the Aviator - I like it much better - but that's just my opinion. YMMV. :shades:
  • wow.. awesome feedback guys.... thanks again!
  • stumpsrstumpsr Posts: 2
    2004 Aviator with 31000 miles on it. Air Conditioner died on a 95 deg day this past Sunday so brought it to dealer and also had them check the brakes. Service dept said rear brakes needed to be done. On the repair envelope we put my work number to call me if needed. What do they do? Call my home and talk to my wife. The service manager says 2mm of brake pad left and that rotors could not be turned (new rotors) also that we needed ebrake assembly (emergency brake assy due to corrosion). Final cost quote $801.....I am getting a second opinion. Is this out of line for a car that is pampered and only has 30K miles? Been driving for 30 years and have never had a service person tell me I needed an ebrake assy. Am I wrong?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
    The ebrake assembly should be covered under warranty - no question.

    If the rotors have never been turned, then they should be able to turn them without replacing them. Did he say why they needed to be replaced? If they're not warped or seriously grooved then they're probably ok.

    Was the brake pad wear on just one side? The 2003/2004 Lincoln LS' have had a problem where one of the rear brakes wears out quickly. Not sure what caused it. If it's uneven wear that's a sign of a problem that should be covered under warranty.
  • jacqueusijacqueusi Posts: 55
    Interesting! On my 2004 Aviator, the A/C stopped working about a month ago at 40K miles.

    I've been lurking these boards to see if anyone else experience an A/C failure.

    Anyone else? Besides that, enjoying the vehicle although I wish the brakes were even to close to being on par with the X5.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,669
    Want better braking? Try some Porterfield R4S street pads. If they're available for the Aviator - haven't checked myself.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    My front brakes wore out on my Navigator at 24,000 miles, and my dealer replaced the pads, and the rotors free of charge under warranty, without even a question.
  • asemaasema Posts: 33
    I took my Aviator to the dealer this week due to a slight pulstaing felt when braking.
    Car has 30,000 miles on it. dealer checked brakes and said the pads were fine, but they 'turned' the rotors, shaving off 1mm I believe. Is that what they should have done, or should they have put on new rotors? Any cons of turning rotors ?
    thanks.
  • nvbankernvbanker Posts: 7,285
    Not until they are too thin to shave anymore off.
  • abtrmanabtrman Posts: 35
    YES, I HAVE THIS PROBLEM ALSO. IT IS A VERY HIGH PITCHED WHINE.I THINK IT IS A LUBRICATION PROBLEM. IT HAS NOT BOTHERED ME ENOUGH TO WORRY ABOUT. I ALSO GET A HIGH PITCH WHINE FROM THE C.D. PLAYER. TO HAVE EITHER OF THESE PROBLEMS CORRECTED MAKES BELIEVE THE STEERING WHEEL WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND THE C.D CHANGER REPLACED.YIKES! I HATE HAVING MY BABY TAKEN APART. IT'S NEVER LIKE THE FACTORY AFTER THAT.BUT IF YOU GO,I"LL GO!
  • silver3silver3 Posts: 1
    I'm considering buying 05 Aviator mainly because huge discount Ford is offering now. But I'm concerned with the maintenance cost. Is this car reliable ? I plan to own more than 10 years. Usually I'm a long time owner. Any comment ?

    Currently own Mercedes 2000 E class but I'm so disappointed with its quality. It gave me a lot of trouble for the maintenance. German car is not reliable anymore. I don't wanna buy german car anymore. I'm also considering Lexus because its outstanding reliability. But Rx330 has only 5 seats. Gx is too expensive. :confuse:
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