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Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan 2005+

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  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    I have about 2300 on my new DGC SXT....had oil changed once etc...even though dealer says new cars don't have break in etc...

     

    Any other suggestions? What is considered broken in??? Thanks!!!
  • I have about the same mileage on mine. Have you noticed a increase in power? I definitely feel more power now that it's got some miles on it. I am waiting until 3K for the 1st oil change.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    Has everyone read the manual on how they want you to break in your engine on the 2005? It also takes a different grade oil.
  • kfdmedkfdmed Posts: 130
    I see where 5W-20 is the required oil but where does it mention how to break in your engine? In general I think the owners manual is average at best. The manuals for my two GM cars are much more detailed and have more illustrations.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    "I see where 5W-20 is the required oil but where does it mention how to break in your engine? In general I think the owners manual is average at best."

    Go to pages 82-83. They give a detailed recomended way to break in your new engine.
  • kfdmedkfdmed Posts: 130
    Question ... So drive moderately and when cruising between 50-55 brief full throttle acceleration contributes to good break-in. Do you want to make the transmission downshift? I assume when you are cruising at 50-55 that the transmission will be in overdrive.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    That's the way I read it.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    "DaimlerChrysler Canada reports January Sales up 21.2 Percent
    Tuesday February 1, 5:37 pm ET

    - DaimlerChrysler minivans continue growth, Dodge Caravan sales up 48.6 percent - Jeep(R) Grand Cherokee posts sales of 906 units, up 73.9 percent - Chrysler Pacifica sets new sales record with 429 units, up 59.5 percent"

    "To date, Chrysler Group has sold more than 1.3 million minivans in Canada and over 10 million minivans worldwide. In Canada, DaimlerChrysler continues to be the leader of this segment, with 34.9 percent of the minivan market. Dodge Caravan was the best-selling minivan and second most popular selling vehicle in Canada for 2004."
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    Auburn Hills, Mich., Jun 07, 2004 -Due to the popularity of Chrysler Group's 2005 Chrysler and Dodge Minivans with the Stow 'n Go TM seating and storage system, the company today announced plans to invest $113 million at its St. Louis (Missouri) South Assembly Plant to accommodate increased Stow 'n Go production. The investment will be put towards the tooling, facility and process changes needed to add flexibility, enabling the plant to build short-wheelbase, long-wheelbase and Stow 'n Go minivans on the same production line. Previously, Chrysler Group only manufactured Chrysler and Dodge minivans with Stow 'n Go at its Windsor (Ontario) Assembly Plant.

    "Today's announcement reinforces the company's commitment to our minivan heritage and our manufacturing facilities, creating greater flexibility in our product offerings and the way in which they are built every day," stated Frank Ewasyshyn, Chrysler Group Executive Vice President, Manufacturing. "We also show through our actions that supporting our existing plants in urban America is fundamental to achieving our long-term corporate objectives."

    Consumer reaction in early market research clinics for the 2005 Chrysler and Dodge minivans was a home run. Prior to launch, Chrysler Group conducted an extensive survey to gauge response to the exclusive Stow 'n Go seating and storage system, comparing it to every competitor in the market. Overall, Stow 'n Go scored six times higher than Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Where is the info to support "Stow and Go, 6 times higher than Honda, Toyota"? Just what is the "6 times higher"? (sales, depreciation, or some other item?).
    My 2002 T&C LX has much better space under the 2nd row seats for the feet of the 3rd row passengers than the 2005 T&Cs and GC's with Stow and Go. The 50/50 split 3rd row seat is also much more comfortable than the 60/40 split Stow and Go 3rd row...even sitting in the middle over the split.
    For me, the seats in the 2nd and 3rd rows of the 2005 Odyssey are more comfortable than those of the 2005 DC minivans while the driver and front passenger seats are equally comfortable.
    It appears that DC now offers the GC SE with 60/40 rear Stow and Go while retaining the bench seat 2nd row or traditional, optional 2nd row bucket seats. (Not to be confused with the GC SE Plus that has 2nd and 3rd row Stow and Go). Now DC needs to have the overhead console with compass/outside temperature and trip computer as an option on the GC SE.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    "Where is the info to support "Stow and Go, 6 times higher than Honda, Toyota"? Just what is the "6 times higher"? (sales, depreciation, or some other item?)."

    you'd have to ask Chrysler

    "For me, the seats in the 2nd and 3rd rows of the 2005 Odyssey are more comfortable than those of the 2005 DC minivans while the driver and front passenger seats are equally comfortable"

    I think you are right. But I see the Dodge/Chrysler vans a lot different than the Honda and Toyota vans. All three will carry passengers fairly nicely. But I think the Dodge/Chrysler has a lot better advantage of carrying other things that I don't think many would want to put in their Honda/Toyota vans. Such as drywall, 2X4's,plywood, bags of cement, etc. Even if you take the middle seats out of those vans, they're really finished off to nice to want to haul anything more than baseball bats, gloves, socker balls,etc. I think a person really needs to think of all the things he would use his van for, before deciding what kind to get.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Stow 'n Go was a major factor for me in choosing the GC SXT over a Honda (just can't warm up to Toyota Styling). I had a Chevy Venture and was tired of taking the seats in and out, storing them someplace etc. I wonder if those paying close to sticker for a Honda/Toyota wonder about the price difference, putting that $$$ in the bank instead, when they talk about superior resale value down the road. My SXT was about $7k less than a Honda EX (rebates, supplier discount etc..)

    I do agree with Marine2 on the interior finish of the DCX vans vs. Japanese. Of all the Minivans out there, DCX's have the cheapest interior. One of the benefits though, I believe the interiors will be easier to keep clean, having reconditioned cars for years in college.

    As far as seat comfort in 2nd and 3rd?? Mostly the kids are back there, usually jumping around anyways.

    My complaints: I HATE the armrests....a molded piece of hard plastic, that my arm can't rest on for too long!! I'm sure it's a lot cheaper to produce vs. a padded, cloth cover one like in the Japanese version. Is there an aftermarket solution?????

    Here in Detroit, I'm hearing the Freestar is dead due to very poor sales. This is what happens when you don't even try to "follow" the competition!! Ford thinks "hey!! lets put a new name on the winstar, update the interior a bit and people will buy em"!!!!

    The next Gen DCX Minivans are being designed by Ralph Gilles (of Chrysler 300C fame). They're suppose to be radically different. Knowing Ralph, they will be!!! He once tricked out a DCX minivan for racing with a 300M engine, Viper brakes and wheels etc!!
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,940
    I bet you could find an upholstery shop that could rebuild your armrests. And Marine, tarps work great from keeping the 8 bushels of leaves or topsoil from ruining your interior (I used old blankets when I moved to handle the washer/dryer, frig, etc.).

    Nissan tried a radically different van and sales are disappointing. DC has a better track record with styling though (the PT Cruiser for example).

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  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    "And Marine, tarps work great from keeping the 8 bushels of leaves or topsoil from ruining your interior (I used old blankets when I moved to handle the washer/dryer, frig, etc.)."

    You can do that in any of the vans,(tarp). Did you move the washer/dryer, refridge in your Dodge? I think I hear you also have a Honda. I can't see hardly anyone putting those in a Honda or Toyota even with a pad down. You would diffently have to take the middle seats out if you did.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,940
    The '99 Quest. I hauled a side-by-side frig in it across town with the door shut (I threw away my middle bench the first year we owned it). I knew I was going to drive it forever, so a few dings and dirt don't bother me anyway.

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  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    ..."The next Gen DCX Minivans are being designed by Ralph Gilles (of Chrysler 300C fame). They're suppose to be radically different"...

    That scares me and would be the clincher for me to buy the Odyssey instead of a Grand Caravan.

    I do not like radical styling such as in the new Quest, Pontiac Aztek, Dodge Magnum, oval Taurus, AMC Pacer, AMC Gremlin, etc.

    Ford killed the Taurus with a radical styling and DC might do the same to their minivans if they make a radical styling change.
  • marine2marine2 Posts: 1,155
    I'll agree with you on all those cars except the Dodge Magnum. I think that is sharp.
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    There's been a number of concept Minivan out there, and it'll be similar to those only a little boxier. That's my understanding.
  • Well, if the guy who designed the 300 is in charge, it should turn out great. Even if some people aren't crazy about the styling, many, many people are, and the 300 is without question the biggest success story in American cars in the last 10 or more years, in terms of overall industry praise and sales
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    If boxier, they will have more useable interior space. The post 1995 DC minivans seem to have less useable interior space for their length than the extended ones up through 1995 and the seats have not been as comfortable for me as were those earlier models.
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