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Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Grand Caravan 2005+

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  • gfloyd60gfloyd60 Posts: 1
    I recently bought a 2005 T&C Limited with 22,000 miles on it. Occasionally, when attempting to open a side door or the tailgate using the remote when the car is locked, the alarm will go off. If I unlock the van using the remote before opening the tailgate or side doors the alarm does not go off. Is this usual on these vehicles? I have found nothing in the owner's manual that indicates the vehicle must be unlocked before before opening the automatic doors/tailgate. Any advice would be welcome.
  • mtl1977mtl1977 Posts: 3
    ">I have a 2007 Grand Caravan SXT Special Edition...3.8L, 4-sp. The trans has the "shudder" issues mentioned above, a harsh downshift from 2->1. Its a 27 month lease, so I am not too concerned since it will always be in warranty.

    I also noticed an issue going from P->D or sometimes from P->N where it feels like the car is in second gear and the torque converter (T/C) is slipping close to stall speed. I was concerned the forward clutch was slipping. I have been monitoring the ATF which does not appear or smell burnt so maybe the issue is within the T/C.

    In the past, I noticed a buzzing noise from other Chrysler vehicles when they come to a stop. I noticed it in my car in the Taco Bell drive through the other day with the sound reflecting off the wall of the building. I also noticed it when coming to a stop during a 2->1 downshift with the window down. If you drive away in L and maintain first gear, it doesn't make the sound coming to a stop. I guess it is a solenoid in the trans (valve body), but man, its pretty freakin' loud.

    Just drove to Orlando, FL from Detroit in this van two weeks ago. It rocks as a long distance traveler. After 2615 miles, it was averaging 23.7 mpg. Not bad at 4200 lbs + three adults, baby, luggage, front and rear A/C running and the cruise set at 70-78 mph. The Stow-N-Go and overall packaging of the vehicle is great! The base Caravan I rented last year with the 3.3L only got 22 mpg. Yes, rental fleets do enhance consumer sales, I would have never considered a Caravan until I rented that stripped down model. The only complaint I have is the build quality - which is surprisingly worse than that of my Ford Rouge Plant built 2004 Mustang GT Conv.

    I have never done a trip like this without a map. The nav system in this van, while being of prehistoric design, works sweet. The only real issues - NavTec needs to update the map listing for a Taco Bell in Columbia, SC - the nav system took me to one that has been closed for several years. And my hotel in Chattanooga, TN was on the east side of I-75, but the nav system had me driving in circles on the west side. Finding the next Subway off of the freeway at 78 mph was super easy. Getting through the points of interest to add to the address book is also very easy...site-seeing in Lexington, KY, SeaWorld, Animal Kingdom, the timeshare condo...

    Road noise is excellent in the back seat. With my head over the rear wheelwells, I can't believe how little noise comes through. Wind noise is about average. Makes my 2005 F-150 seem like a Town Car.

    The 62-watt 6-speaker audio system SUCKS! At max volume and the windows down, good luck hearing anything on the freeway. With the 6-disc DVD changer and nav system, the only way to upgrade power is to add a speaker level input amp(s). Definitely going to make sure the next van has the premium system.

    I need to find a rear sway bar for this thing too. Maybe the T&C Touring suspension or towing package(?) one is readily available.

    PS - I'm an automatic transmission engineer for a major tier one supplier from Detroit. This is my first non-Ford vehicle. It will almost definitely be replaced with a 2009MY Grand Caravan, 3/16/09 when my current lease ends. The new ones looks sweet. Too bad you can't Swivel-N-Stow. But they did add power opening sliding door windows. Very nice.

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  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Posts: 421
    I believe this to be normal. We have an 01 DGC EX, with the dealership alarm installed. If we open the rear liftgate or sliding door, without pressing the unlock button on the keyfob first, the alarm will sound. (The alarm can only be disarmed with the unlock button on the keyfob.) I hope this helps. ;)
  • heavydoeheavydoe Posts: 10
    I have a 2005 Dodge that does this with the lift gate which started about 8-9 months ago. The guys over at John Elway Dodge said that it is not suppose to do this. As usual they cannot duplicate the problem when they have it so they don't know what is causing it.
  • coach_tdcoach_td Posts: 4
    Hi,

    I have a 2005 T & C touring. I am looking for the in cabin air filter. I read online about it being on the passenger side below the glove box but not sure if it is different model year. I have looked under there and tried to find it but no luck. Does the 2005 have one?? Thanks
  • cbwilshacbwilsha Posts: 70
    See page 372 of your Owners Manual "A/C Filter".

    C.B.
  • you SHOULD be concerned about mechanical failure. it happened to me in my 2005 town and country and i was never more scared in my life. i could have easily been killed had circumstances been a bit different!
  • Does any1 know if the towing package that comes with the van has the wiring for an Electronic Brake hook up as part of it? :confuse:
    I'd appreciate any feedback.

    Thanks!.
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    The standard 3-zone manual climate control does not have a replaceable cabin air filter. I wish it did as the air in my 05 is a bit stale, especialyl the heat setting. One too many farts maybe? Anyway, the cabin air filter comes with the 3-zone automatic climate control. Mine's a lease, so I dont' care as much as you probably do.
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    The 3.8L with tow package has a 3800pound tow rating. That includes rear load leveling suspension and transmissino cooler. Adding a receiver alone keeps the rating down to 2000 pounds.

    I don't know if the OEM tow package includes wiring for elextric brakes. My guess is not.
  • masterpaul1masterpaul1 Posts: 421
    I could be wrong about this, but we have an 01 DGC EX with manual triple zone air/heat with a cabin filter. It would seem that the 05 T&C would have it. Did you check under the dash board on the passenger side? It has a long black cover to it.
  • aaron_taaron_t Posts: 301
    I arleady looked in my 05 T&C Touring. According to the Chrysler web site, it is included with the 3-zone automatic HVAC:

    Leather Interior Group $2,100
    Package includes >>
    Leather-Trimmed Bucket Seats-First and Second Rows Heated Front Seats
    Overhead Console w/Trip Computer & E-info center
    Air Conditioning with 3-Zone Automatic Temp Control
    Air Filtering
    Power 8-Way Driver and 6-Way Front Passenger Seats
    Vehicle Information Center
  • coach_tdcoach_td Posts: 4
    I am positive on my 2005 town and country touring that it does not have the in cabin air filter. There is no long black cover under the dash.

    By the way my T & C has 60000 miles on it and has performed outstanding. The only issues I had were with sway bar links and a wiring harness that broke. Both were fixed under warranty with no problems. The engine worried me from day one because it uses some oil between changes, but so far the engine has performed flawlessly. I just make sure to check the level between changes.

    Recently, on vacation we rented a T and C base model with the 3.3 Liter engine. The car had 4000 miles on it and felt like it wouldn't last 20000 miles. What a huge difference. I was so glad to get my touring back when we got home.

    What do you guys think about the 4.0 L engine with the 6 speed transmission? Hopefully, it will be a reliable set up. I may be looking at a Pacifica next.
  • bmw335xibmw335xi Posts: 11
    I hate the 2005 Town and country. I was in my fathers comeing back from a musical with almost a full tank of gas. It was dark on a twisty road and the engine just shut off. He pulled over on the side off the road and it was blided both ways.
    We did not know what happend. We got a ride from our friends who lived by there. Towed it back to the dealership and they said the gas gade got stuck. They also said other ones had the same problem and it was not recalled. He said he will never by a Chrysler minivan again. Now he's looking a Buick Enclave. ( I said look at the new Highlander)Has this ever happened to any one else?
  • hum3hum3 Posts: 19
    EVen after turning off the ignition, the cooling fan continues. I did some searches and read a little about a problem with the relay, but have no idea where it is or if it is a different problem altogether. I meanwhile pulled the fuse. Any thoughts?
  • gregmangregman Posts: 24
    My wife just had our 3rd set of front sway bar links installed on our 2005 lx. It has close to 70k miles, but come on, that's unreasonable. First set I installed at about 50k because dealer wanted $400 plus (as a favor). My cost $80 plus my time. They went bad immediately because the dealer left the sway bar mounts loose after they replaced the front pump on the tranny.
    Independent shop replaced the second pair at about 54k. Now they've gone out again. Alignment was checked with new tires at 45k. Dealer says 40k is normal replacement interval.
    My gm got it's first set at 225k, only because I hit a curb.
    Is this a weak link? :confuse:
  • I have taken the code info you supplied to two different dealers and the results have been just as I expected. Since you wouldn't give me a dealer name or date, the service managers at both dealers just told me that those codes didn't exist and, that if a code didn't show up in the on board computer, that code wasn't legitimate. I couldn't even get them to research the codes on their Chrysler computer network.

    Thanks for a little, but not enough.
  • spectramanspectraman Posts: 255
    Wow... this one has me stumped!

    Can anyone explain what the little 'ON/OFF' button does that's located immediately to the left hand side of the power sliding doors and power liftgate buttons in the overhead console?

    This button appears to have NO function in either my 2006 or my In-laws 2005 Grand Caravan. I thought that it would be a lockout on the power doors, like the lockout buttons that are usually found next to a vehicle's drivers power window block. But.... that isn't what this button appears to be for.

    The manuals in BOTH vehicles fail to mention this button, nor it's function.... although it's shown in two diagrams of the overhead console. WTH???? A search of the forums here came up empty, so I guess I'm the first person to wonder what this thing's for.

    Thanks in advance for any feedback any of you have.

    -SM
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,526
    Just tossing out ideas here, but how about a key fob lockout? Switch for the passenger airbag?

    I find it humorous that it would fail to be labeled (or documented in the owner manual), but then again, this is a Chrysler product.... :D
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • cbwilshacbwilsha Posts: 70
    My 2005 Chrysler T&C Manual (Page 31) says "To avoid unintentional operation of the power sliding door from the rear seats, press the button located in the overhead console to disable the switches for the rear seat passengers".

    C.B.
  • Thanks C.B.!

    I didn't think to check to see if the rear B-pillar door buttons were disabled! I forgot about those! I'm sure that you've nailed it.

    Thanks again.

    -SM
  • neile457neile457 Posts: 65
    I hate the 2005 Town and country. I was in my fathers comeing back from a musical with almost a full tank of gas. It was dark on a twisty road and the engine just shut off. He pulled over on the side off the road and it was blided both ways.
    We did not know what happend. We got a ride from our friends who lived by there. Towed it back to the dealership and they said the gas gade got stuck. They also said other ones had the same problem and it was not recalled. He said he will never by a Chrysler minivan again. Now he's looking a Buick Enclave. ( I said look at the new Highlander)Has this ever happened to any one else?


    My wife had a 1994 Camry, and got stranded on the highway. Come to find out, she ran out of gas, even though the gas hand showed a half tank, it got stuck. That was a 2 yr old Camry with 25000 miles on it. I haven't bought a Toyota since, either (NOT).
  • We have a 2005 Grand Caravan SXT with 75000 km on it and we are very pleased with the vehicle. Disappointed with the dealer constant wanting to add on services not mentioned in the service book when we go for regular maintenance, and suspect a bit of scamming.
    Our automatic door locking which is supposed to occur at a certain speed ( about 17 mph or 25 kph) has stopped working so we have to remember to do it ourselves as we set off.
    Has anyone else had this problem? Where is the likely location of the failed component?

    DougW
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Just have to say how happy I am with my Chrysler dealership - Golling Dodge/Chrysler in Detroit (well north of Detroit at Telegraph and Square Lake Rd). I took my 2005 GC in for airbag sensor check and oil change. They said it'd be a few hours but they'd call me before lunch. Cool, no problem etc... Lunch came and went without a call, finally about 1;30 pm I get call apologizing for being late but when they change oil, they do 23 point inspection. They found that the front outter tie rods were going bad (Thank you state of Michigan!) and they saw my 3 year warranty was expiring in 3 days, so they replaced them while still under warranty!!!
  • 07tnc07tnc Posts: 2
    Yup, happened to me on my 92 toyota corolla and got me stranded on a freezing winter night in the middle of nowhere and cellphones were a luxury item then. I didnt and wont buy a :lemon: toyota :lemon: again, ever.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Another example of excellent Chrysler service. Auto experts will read your account and tell people how bad GC and T&C are for needing outer tie rods replaced on a 3 year old vehicle but ignore that the service was performed under warranty. ;)

    BTW, I have NOT yet received a letter from Toyota extending the warranty for the defective part that will break and either or both Sienna front doors will not remain open. :lemon:
  • We have a 2005 GC SXT, with 90,000 km on it, and we really like it. We are in Mexico for the winter. 2 days ago we noticed that the yellow engine shaped warning light came on, on the dash. The car is functioning normally, including temp guage, and we have checked the oil and water coolant levels, and they are fine. The gas cap is not loose, and we have put in a nearly full tank of gas since then. We had the vehicle oil changed and a new filter installed about a week ago at a local Goodyear dealer, and the place is well equipped and well run. The mgr says we need to go to the local Chrysler dealer to get a computer code read out, but has rechecked the filter installation, and says it is fine. The oil has clearly been changed and looks clean. The manual is rather vague about the meaning of this light, apparently because it is affected by many conditions, most of which
    are not harmful, such as a loose gas cap.
    Has anybody any ideas, or should we just get on with it and go to the local dealer and put our trust in them ?
    Thanks.....DougW
  • metersmeters Posts: 1
    Anyone know where the main fuse box is ? I found the one under the hood. I'm having trouble with the blower fan not working any thoughts ?

    Thanks
  • I am having the same trouble. I have 83000 miles on my van and the auto door lock system has stopped working. I got under the hood and fiddled with the fuses and it worked, but this is the third time it has messed up and what I did last time is not working this time. I am writing to find out if you have figured out what the problem is and if it was fuse problem or what? Sorry I don't have an answer, but I am desperate to fis our van and wanted to know if you have found any leads. Thanks.

    jimmy
  • leotaurleotaur Posts: 17
    My problem was that I had accidentally changed the menu on the electronic control centre above the windshield. Read the manual and reprogram the auto door lock function, which is one of the options you will see as you scroll through the menu for various functions, such as the time delay for the headlights to go off and so on.
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