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2013 and Earlier - Mazda3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • markmanmarkman Posts: 7
    This evening we picked up a new 2007 3s Sport Hatch w/automatic. This will be my wife's new car replacing a 1998 Escort. Needless to say she is thrilled with the extra zip the 3 gives her. We did some internet shopping before visiting a dealer. We ended up getting the car from Jim Ellis Mazda here in Atlanta and we were very happy with the whole experience. Here are the $'s:

    Mazda3s Sport Hatchback in Sunlight Silver with Grey interior and auto: $17,165.00
    Dealer fee 399.99
    Tax 1,053.90
    Title 39.00

    Total OTD $18660.89

    I think this is a good price, considering it's almost under invoice including tax :)

    We took advantage of the 0% finance offer from Mazda which makes the deal even better.
  • jt120jt120 Posts: 6
    I bought from Jim Ellis as well and got a great price. Well worth the 4 hour trip.
  • roadrnroadrn Posts: 1
    Will we see rebates on remaining 3s this fall? I realize there are special APR offers right now but wonder if they will increase the incentives as the yearend nears. Any thoughts?
  • myobmyob Posts: 34
    Anyone paying anything less than msrp on a mazdaspeed3?

    Also, what dealer fees did you pay? They seem to like to tack that on to the 'price" these days, so it helps to know if you paid msrp plus fees or msrp and no fees or whatever.
  • ru03j89ru03j89 Posts: 4
    hey guys new to the forum.
    I live in the bay area ca
    is 18000 a good price for an i touring 08 mica black/ abs package/ moonroof 6 cd changer package???
    If not how low can I get it to?
    I got this price from the internet department. Can I get any lower?
    thanks
    jason
  • gussguss Posts: 1,181
    That's the exact car I am looking at, except an '07. When I priced up the invoice I came to $17,900.I have not received a firm number from the dealer yet but I was hoping to get it for $400 under invoice.

    For another $500 maybe I should be looking at the 08's if that is all the price difference is.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    killer deals on a few mazdas at the local dealer...
    they had a 3 s TOURING hatch going for 18500 ADVERTISED price.

    i thought that was pretty sweet. the interest was 5.8 for sixty months.
  • chavis10chavis10 Posts: 166
    My car has a boat load of problems so I'm gonna try again for an '07 GT. More features and hopefully the issues I've had have been worked out.

    Galaxy Grey GT MSRP- $23,150 and he's only offering $22,206 (invoice is $21,545). Again, it's an '07 so don't you think they should be more aggressive with lowering the price? They've also low balled my trade in as Edmunds had $12,725 and they offered $11,500. Sounds like I have more negotiating to do, eh???
  • han7han7 Posts: 1
    a dealer has offered a 2008 Mazda 3 'S' Sport Sedan with a 5 speed manual and Moonroof/6CD package for $17,562($18,900 msrp) plus $218 t/t. should i jump on this? would asking to addd leather seating, and offering $17,000 t/t out the door be asking too much? also, i'm not too familiar with when the year-end date is for the model, would anyone know when it is? i might wait until then to jump on a 2007 instead.
  • 2007 Silver Mazda3 s Touring with Moonroof.
    Here is the detail.
    MSRP: $20760
    Invoice: $19492
    OTD price: $20351
    The numbers on paper are $18573 (invoice), $55 (document), $1537 (tax) and $186 (other official fees).

    CA, 8.25% tax. How about this deal?
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Edmunds had $12,725 and they offered $11,500. Sounds like I have more negotiating to do, eh???

    Always negotiate. Keep in mind, Edmunds is a publisher, they are not in the "car business". Their trade values are not an accurate measurement of true vehicle value.
  • chavis10chavis10 Posts: 166
    Thanks for the reply. I checked out Kelly Blue Book and they listed the value at $13,545. I'll set $13,000 as my lowest limit and go from there since I dew have a few dings and dents. I live in the city and park on the street so...
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Sometimes thinking what KBB or Edmunds says is law may actually hurt you, and cause you to pass on a good deal. I know in my store, I have yet to sell a pre-owned vehicle for what KBB or Edmunds says it's worth. I always list the price lower then them, and I usually sell for even lower then that.

    My advise it to have the dealer show you the book that they use to asses vehicle values, and have then explain how they came to their number. Here in the North East, we use Galves. Down south and in the mid west, I think they use whats called the "black book"
  • autonomousautonomous Posts: 1,769
    have the dealer show you the book that they use to asses vehicle values, and have then explain how they came to their number. Here in the North East, we use Galves. Down south and in the mid west, I think they use whats called the "black book"

    An important thing to remember about the "black book" is that it is a publication created for dealers and not by an independent third party. In other words, this presents the information from the dealers point of view. As a consumer I would look at several sources (including KBB) to balance the picture.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    As a consumer I would look at several sources (including KBB) to balance the picture.

    KBB does not buy or sell vehicles. How do they know what they are worth? They give you values for free, and make money through advertisement. If they were really reputable, why would they not charge for their info? Because it is worthless, and they know it.

    Having KBB give a value for a vehicle is like me stating how much I think Sony should sell a TV for. I can do research on reliability and features until I am blue in the face, but, it gives me no merit to say how much one should sell for new or pre-owned.
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    An important thing to remember about the "black book" is that it is a publication created for dealers and not by an independent third party

    That is incorrect. The Black Book is an independent company that established wholesale values for vehicles that pass through an auction. Galves is the same. Dealers use these books because most of the time, vehicles are traded in that are no longer a dealer retail piece. So, these vehicles need to go to an auction. A dealer needs to know what that vehicle will bring at an auction, so, these books are resourced as to what these vehicles true worth are. Hence what a real trade value is.

    Now, if a dealer is taking in a retail piece, usually they will step up on the trade offer to make the deal because they can sell it for a profit. That does happen quite a lot.

    Now, as a customer, I think it is wise to negotiate until you cannot go any further. That is what I suggested to that other person who posted. But, many times, people walk away from great deals because they are ignorant, stupid, or both.
  • chavis10chavis10 Posts: 166
    He whipped out his little black book and the prices were roughly $2000 lower than what I found on Blue Book. This book did not include any provisions for all of the options on my car. He claimed the book is used at auctions and is a used car manager's bible. While this maybe true, I am always skeptical about anything being said at the neogiating table.

    Example- they told me they'd give me the car at invoice yet when I examined the breakdown, the starting price is listed at invoice but the option package and accessories are at MSRP. I did not mention this as it assumed me somewhat. He worked so hard to gain my trust and I got him up $700 on my trade yet he still tries to assume I'm a foolish enough to let him sneak in an extra couple hundred dollars. The deceit is what really kills me about the entire car transaction game. Don't tell me I'm getting the car at invoice unless you are prepared to actually do so. When I go to sign my papers next week, I'm gonna have to show him that he's dealing with a savvy car buyer. If SOME of these employees displayed more honesty, I don't think they'd have the reputation that they do.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    It definitely pays to know all the prices for all parts of any transaction. I would have also assumed that if the salesman says he will sell the car for invoice, that it would also include any option package or accessory that was added on. Invoice is invoice and at no time was MSRP ever discussed. Good for you for noticing this slip on his part. But keep one thing in mind...it may really have been a slip on his part and not intentional. I'd like to think that he just made a mistake, but part of me also thinks he's trying to slip it past you. Just wish honesty would play a bigger role in the car buying scenario...from every side! Probably dreaming on that score, but I always hold out some hope...the eternal optimist.

    The Sandman :)
  • aviboy97aviboy97 Posts: 3,159
    Negotiating is key.

    It is unfortunate that many bad apples of the past still ruin the bunch for the future.

    Car buying should be fun, not a stress. All parties should work together to make this happen. Good luck!
  • What really sets pricing is the auctions ...
    MANHEIM is becoming the new "Galves/Black Book"

    MANHEIM is an auction for dealers only. It basically helps to set pricing for trade valves.

    Most stores (dealers) have access to Manheim. HAve your dealer show you what your car would sell for at auction.

    NO CAR WILL BE IN MINT/EXCELLENT condition.

    Manheim uses above average, average and rough

    MOST cars fall into average.

    GOOD LUCK
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