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2013 and Earlier - Mazda3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • 1) 1,500 cash or 0% APR is an incentive from manufacturer to customer not to the dealer and is advertised more as 0% APR and they try to hide its monetary equivalent of 1,500 if you get financing somewhere else.

    2) The finance manager took a copy of my retired military ID and I ask him that "the rebate only applies for active right?" and he said its OK that's when I got this funny feeling that something is up.

    3) The contract, not hand written, manufacturer's rebate should list all rebates not just 1,000 which I think is the loyalty and military rebate

    4) Edmunds got all the rebates right except that they do not have the Manufacturer to Dealers rebate/incentive and I confirmed all three rebates from the dealer and I'm qualified for 1,500 and loyalty. If I had the time I would use fightingcance.com (not free) to get all info above and we won't have this conversation.

    5) I'm willing to pay 5% more than the dealership cost them to buy the car and they still have 2-3% hold back price from the factory when they get rid of the car and on top of that they will get a factory to dealer incentive if it exist. I believe in hard earned money they deserve but I,m not going to support they're extended family. A 25 yr old salesman drove off with a Cadillac for Christ sake.

    SO, your dealership do not list all rebates in the contract? LOL
  • It almost seems you got both the loyalty and military rebate which is why your sales receipt show $1000 rebate. I did not quality for either so my sales price was 17K without any rebate. That was about a month ago, so it's possible more hidden incentives are now available to push prices even lower. I read somewhere that dealerships make only a couple of hundred dollars per car. They make most of their money via used cars and service. So I think you pushed your dealership to the limit and they wouldn't have been able to go another 1K lower. It certainly wouldn't hurt for people to begin the negotiation with a 15.5K offer. But don't be surprised if most dealerships balk at it.
  • I say 80% or more of us goes to the dealership when we really need another car and do not have enough time to strategically haggle. We're like playing chicken and whoever ran out of time flinches and loses. Very few of us really got a dealership against the wall and paid the minimum. I do not think I'm one of them. I can't stress enough the websites I mention for new buyers specially to browse them and learn the tricks of the trade.
    The dealership making only a couple of hundred is a myth and if you did got a great deal from them repay them by recommending them to family and friends.

    What worked for me was the fact that I worked graveyard and told them that I could not answer phone nor visit the dealership during the day and will deal with them via email. This gives me an advantage in the waiting game and I also told them that on weekends I go to church services and ball games of my kid and might be able to drop by a dealership for a couple hours at a time each day on a weekend.

    And when I do go to a dealership it would be different place each time and give them my standard spill of just browsing and do not intend to buy now but in a couple of months or so. When I talked to them via email I would introduce a new haggling price (I found on internet like this forum) during the weekend and it does give them the impression that I did visit a dealership, which I did but did not get the haggling price there, and actively pursuing to get my dream car.

    In short I got them battling for the price I wanted without leaving my PC - Thank God for the Internet. The participating dealers where from Edmunds price quote, Truecar.com as recommended by another member and Carwoo - a paid service but I'm getting my money back for lack of dealer participation. I would love to see someone uses fightingchance.com ($40) and get the actual price what the dealers a paying for the car. I should have but was in a hurry and miss this tip from carbuyingtips. This (fightingchance) was non existent 7 years ago when I read everything from carbuyingtips webpages.

    Now that I got my new car, My teenager is off my back and driving my old very reliable rally white 2006 Mada3.
  • I was hoping to get some feedback on my recent purchase. I made a pretty impulsive purchase on this car after researching every other car in it's class to DEATH!! When I saw the 0% financing and no payments for 3 months, I went to Maita Mazda on Auburn Blvd. in Sacramento because I always loved the way the Mazda 3 hatchbacks looked....and left with a black mica/black interior:

    2012 Mazda 3i Grand Touring $23,150 MSRP
    Fog Lights $ 350 MSRP
    Tech Pkg. $ 1,400 MSRP

    Total of $25,695 MSRP

    I had no trade and put no money down (we sold our minivan for $18,000!! They were only going to give us MAYBE $15,000...which was more than Carmax and we considered it, but in the end decided to do a private sale and made the extra $3000!)

    This is what I left with:

    Cash price of vehicle: $24,195

    They talked me into keep the theft system on (pfff!) for $395
    Sales tax $1911.93
    License/Registration/etc. $265

    Total amount financed $26,867

    I chose the 1.9% financing over the 0% financing only to keep my payments lower

    71 payments of $395/mo.

    Please tell me this sounds like a good deal!!!

    Saige
  • Sounds like a great deal! I just got the Mazda 3 Grand Touring with Tech Pkg. and fog lights for $24,195 (doesn't include taxes, etc.) and I thought that was a sweet deal. Did you get any optional equipment??

    I put no money down and went with the 1.9% financing to keep my payments lower. They were going to possibly give $15K for a trade, but I went private party sale and got $18K!! Go me!!!

    Congrats!! Fun car to drive, no??? I'm loving it!
  • Did you get it?? I'm jealous! I wanted the push button start, but went for the Mazda 3i with a regular ole key for the extra 10MPG ::sigh::: Sounds like a decent price!
  • Offered 18995 for Mazda3 5 Door Hatchback i Touring model (no options)

    Trying to push for $20k out-the-door in CA, which I think would imply something like $18.2k base car price (10-12% fees). Am I pushing my luck?

    Original offer came through Costco program. Inventory of the base iTouring actually isn't that plentiful in the Bay area it seems.
  • hey was wondering where this deal rates, after i fielded some offers from different dealers my friend who's an audi salesman said if i got to 18 it would be a solid deal. i ended up getting to 17,232 for a mazda 3i touring hatchback with a manual transmission before t/t. i haven't read the forums yet but i'm interested to see how this deal stacks up, i bought the car in PA fwiw and am already in love with it. thanks
  • Does anyone know if Costco's offer factor into things like year end clearance?

    Here's how I'd do the math. Invoice for hatchback is $500 more than sedan. Hatchback currently get $1250 less incentive than sedan($250 vs. $1500). $16,500(raymac's price without royalty rebate)+500+$1250=$18250 seems possible.

    Around Portland, OR there are actually more hatchback in stock than sedan probably due to lower incentive. According to Edmund, the $250 incentive expire on Oct. 1st. I'd wager that Mazda will increase the incentive in the future. If you can wait a couple of weeks, you should be able to get to the price range you're looking for.
  • That's price is I found the lowest for me, by now. But one problem is, that dealer leaves me about 7 hours drive. Another dealer offer me 17900 OTD. They offer me from phone, is it anything I need to pay attention before I go there and buy the car?
    Another problem, their Internet Sales Manager said from email: "I have the same car in stock but i can not go as low as your quote. I am OTD for $19,256." And couple days later their Internet Sales specialist call me said they can offer me at $17900 OTD. Is it any trick in this situation?
    THX
  • It's possible they were bluffing before or Mazda is now offering more incentives. It doesn't makes sense that sedan get $1500 incentive while hatchback only get $250. One poster said he got $17300 on a manual, so your price seems reasonable for an automatic. The thing to be careful is if they try to change the price or add any fees on top of the OTD price, don't be afraid to say no.
  • It makes scene, after their Manager tell me the OTD price, I directly say I will move to other dealerships.
    Is it possible ask them to send some prove that say they will sell the car at that price. Because everything we did was from phone. And this dealer it's about 1.5 hours drive from me. Didn't want to waste my time if the deal not working.
  • Time is your friend. Yes ask them to email you the quote and while waiting for their reply get another internet quotes from a couple of dealers in the same area preferably on the way to the first dealership. When those dealership replies tell them you've been quoted 17,900 OTD by "mention the name of dealership" and let them fight for the lowest price. At least one of these dealership will quote you by email and that is your proof.

    The salesman who quote you by phone most likely did not communicate it to the internet manager that's where the confusion started. They are not trying to trick you but let them email you the quote anyways.

    It's price war and I got mine a little early but I really need it and can't wait. I just got an email though late from one of the competing dealership and here what he has to say - cut and pasted.
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    This is ___, your Internet Sales Manager here at Royal Mazda of San Francisco. I am reaching out to you as the end of the month is approaching fast and we are still 19 cars short of our goal. Here are the special pricing for the end of the month sale!!!!

    Any Mazda CX-5 instock, I will sell it to you for invoice plus all incentives
    Any Mazda CX-9 instock, I will sell it to you for $1,700 under invoice plus all incentives
    Any Mazda 5 instock, I will sell it to you for $1,600 under invoice plus all incentives
    Any Mazda 3 instock, I will sell it to you for $1,600 under invoice plus all incentives
    Any Mazda 2 instock, I will sell it to you for $1,600 under invoice plus all incentives
    Any Mazda MX-5 Miata instock, I will sell it to you for $1,600 under invoice plus all incentives
    Any Mazda 6 instock, I will sell it to you for $2,200 under invoice plus all incentive
  • Thank you for your help. I was emailed the dealership around my area (in 2 hours drive). Seems they didn't interested in the price fight. In my city, only one Mazda dealer they even ignore me. And other dealers keep their OTD price around 18500.
  • raymacraymac Posts: 15
    edited September 2012
    18,500 is most likely most people paid for and is not a bad deal. However if you got time you could play their waiting game and see if they'll budge. You said you got 17,900 quote - email them and ask them the details, color and option already installed and tell them you have a comparable quote nearer from you but of different color and is not your primary choice and maybe they'll respond with the 17900 quote in writing.

    You have to remember that profit is still profit no matter how small and they will take the risk and wait for you to give in. You might want to try this free web service that gives you a quote with price certificate that they honor. Just use a different email, phone and use an alias so it would appear to be a different customer.

    You still have a few days before Oct 1 when rebates and incentives might change. Drive your dream car form carbuyingtips.com or Truecar.com Good luck
  • Thank you so much for your advise!
  • I've seen a lot of HIGH prices quoted here for a 2012 Mazda 3 i Touring automatic 4 door. To give you an idea check out my link, these prices can even be haggled down lower.
    Mazda 3 Prices link
  • dyoht5dyoht5 Posts: 3
    With the intro of the 2013 last weekend does anyone know (or care to make an educated guess as to) when the October incentives kick in for the 2012 M3?
    I'd like to make a purchase this week if possible. I wonder if its worth waiting...
    Thanks!
  • Looks like dealers are getting desperate and trying to get sales anyway they can.
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  • Just saw on Edmunds that marketing support is at $350, down from $1500 for last month. The dealers in my area, se PA have all increased their prices $500. Early prices on 2013 models I've received are 250-850 under MSRP. So come the end of the month will I have to admit I lost a gamble and pay the extra 500 or do you think I can get it for what it was offered to me in Sept.? Any idea where the prices are going on 2012 models come November? Did Mazda 3 reach the bottom in September? Maybe since 2013's are not discounted much they think there will be a big demand for 2012's, thus the slight price increase. So where is the extra support coming from since Mazda cuts back from 1500 to 350 yet price increase is only 500? I'm sure you experienced buyers know the answer to this one. So, buy now or wait? Thanks!
  • It's worse than that. The $1,500 was an alternative incentive to Mazda financing; the $350 is tied to it. So, if you have your own or don't qualify for the 0% and don't want the rate the dealer comes up with, you lose even the $350.

    This is a bold move considering that the 2013's are now out and the lots are still packed with 2012's.
  • dyoht5dyoht5 Posts: 3
    The dealers I'm negotiating with haven't increased the quoted OTD. One in fact said the incentives "were not increased". I'm sure they would let me know if the incentive decreased.

    As you said, the lots are full. I'll wait it out.
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 791
    I just checked out the 2013 on the Mazda website and it looks like the 6-speed Manual Transmission is now standard on the i Grand Touring!!! The 2012 was only offered with the 6-speed Automatic, which is now optional! Just FYI!
  • The $350 cash can be used WITH 0% APR.

    Previously it was either 0% OR $1500.
  • According to dealers I've been getting quotes from recently, it seems there is $1,500 without Mazda special (0%) financing or $350 with it. All have given quotes on this basis.
  • dyoht5dyoht5 Posts: 3
    "it seems there is $1,500 without Mazda special (0%) financing or $350 with it."

    ditto.
  • tex78tex78 Posts: 1
    Don’t know about specific incentives, but I just purchased a new white Mazda3 iTouring AT on Oct 4th for $17,300. Was going to wait for the end of December specials on a 2013 model, but it doesn’t sound like there are going to be any significant changes on the 2013 iTouring models, so I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Felt like a good deal to me. :)
  • I bought my 2012 i Touring with auto trans for $17,400 with outside financing. Not as good as $17,300, especially given that white bumps the price up by $200 over the one I bought, but not bad. With patience, and near the end of the month, $17,000 should be the norm (some dealers are currently advertising deals that are the equivalent of around $17,200 already).
  • paw9paw9 Posts: 3
    Trying to figure out if I found a good deal here in Florida. Car is a new 2012 Mazda 3 s Grand Touring sky blue. It has a "no haggle" sale price of 22214. I looked at TMV here, Cars.com and KBB and this looks like a pretty fair price. They gave me a printout of govt fees, taxes and doc fees. All looks reasonable except for crazy high $650 document fee which I will have to negotiate. Thoughts?
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