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2005 Nissan Pathfinder

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Will the new Pathfinder retain the console-mounted handbrake?
  • First, I want to put to rest any doubts about non-significant increase of power in the new VQ4.0 V6. Nissan says 250+ hp and 270+ ft-lb? Yes, they said 300+ hp and 370+ ft-lb for the new 5.6 V8. Then it turned out that the V8 is rated at 305 hp and 379 ft-lb. Then one guy from nissanforums website took his brand new Titan to the dyno and put down rear wheel HP number equal to the 5.7 Hemi and greater Torque number than the Hemi. So you can reason that Nissan V8 actually makes close to 335 hp and 390 ft-lb. It's either that or Dodge's transmition wastes a larger percentage of the power. In any case - Nissan is being very conservative and cautious when advertizing the power ratings. If you extend this reasoning to the new VQ 4.0 V6, then you can expect the real power rating to be near 275 hp and 295 ft-lb! These are awesome numbers for a V6. These numbers equal or exceed the Explorer V8 and the current Grand Cherokee V8.
    I did a comparo a couple of weeks ago, and I think I came up with the new PF wheelbase to be about 5.5 inches longer than current PF.
    The platform of the new PF and Fronti is basically the same as the Armada and Titan. So onroad handling will further improve. Offroading capability is not likely to improve any.

    I don't have anything against the 4Runner except the price. The PF always had a price advantage here.

    So - I am looking forward to trading my 2001 PF SE for the new PF (but I think I will wait until 2007 or 2008 - so that I get good use out of my current Pathy and so that most new Pathy glitches are worked out).

    2FastDre.
  • A little torn, my lease on my 01 Pathfinder is up end of March. This is my 3rd trouble free Pathfinder. Really like the 4Runner, and know it is trouble free as well, and the v8 is smooth. Nisan credit has been rude and said they could careless if I wanted to wait, I could only extend lease a month. My preferred dealer said arrangements could be made to wait until 05 arrives in Sept or Oct. Will the new Pathfinder be worth the wait (apparently only a v6 will be offered) or should I just get the 4Runner?
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    As it stands now, the production of Titan, Armada and QX56 all require the 5.6L V8. They probably could not spare the volume for the new PF. After 1 or 2 years, you probably would see the V8 as an option like 4Runner. Or, the Infiniti version of PF probably would have the V8 as standard (like Lexus GX470 from 4Runner).
    BTW, I suggest you return the lease and lease an used car for 6 months from elsewhere.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I understand your logic, however, you must consider that IF Nissan offers a V8 in the Pathfinder in a year or so, it may not be the 5.6L we all know and love now. Think about it. The 5.6L is a whole 1.6L greater in displacement, than the 4.0L. I find it hard to believe that the two would be similar in physical size, and think it would be a real stretch for Nissan to get that size engine in the 2005 Pathfinder's engine bay without some type of modification.

    ~alpha
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    If you look at the engine bay of a BMW 530, you would wonder how they fit an 4.5L V8 in there. But they did and with room to spare. Some also argued that a PF with V8 would take away market of PFA. For Nissan, they should more about PF+PFA taking market from other makers. A counter example is the BMW 540 and 740. They are in different classes. People who needs towing would still go with PFA (weight, brake and wheel base are important for towing, not just engine displacement). People like me who demand performance while needing reasonable utility, 3-row seat PF with V8 are PERFECT.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,689
    If it ever gets a V8 option, it most likely will be a truck-tuned version of the 4.5L found in the Q/M45, not the 5.6 Armada/Titan engine. They may even goose the displacement a bit to ~ 4.8L, just as they goosed the 3.5 VQ engine to 4.0 for Frontier/Pathfinder applications.

    Bob
  • sivisivi Posts: 20
    when does the 05 pathfinder hit the showroom floor?
  • try nissannews.com They might offer some information.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,689
    the new Pathfinder and Frontier will arrive.

    Bob
  • sivisivi Posts: 20
    it is just my wife and i who hardly need a second row seat, why would i need a childrens third row seat? i think the 3rd ,could be much better used for storage.
  • That boxy back end will provide head room for those sitting in the third row. This coming from a guy who bought a Honda Odyssey because that boxy look gave 1 to 1.5 inches more headroom in the back seat. Probably not a big deal for those who don't have 6 or more in the car often.

    Regarding horsepower, 250 hp plenty of hp for boats to 3500 lbs. About 90% of SUV's never tow a thing regularly - just luxury city/surburban commuter rides.

    For those that really tow stuff, 300 hp needed for boats to 5000 lbs, maybe more if mountains are involved. My 1997 Pathy (circa 170 hp) is underpowered getting on the highway here in the flat midwest, can't imagine pulling 2900 lbs through mountains. My 2004 minivan, with 240 hp, blows it away - boy have times changed in just 7 yrs.

    I'll be looking to pick up a 2005 or 2006 Pathfinder used in 2007 or 2008 when my 1997 Pathy hits 150,000 miles.
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    and running. You can build your new 2005 Pathfinder. Here is the link:

    http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/ConfiguratorPathfinder/1,9776,3- 3857,00.html

    Have fun.
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Posts: 159
    The pictures look like the 05 pathfinder only has metal sunroof. Was this the case with the older styles?
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    It's still a preproduction version. They might change it before the real thing hits dealers - hopefully.
  • mseenviromseenviro Posts: 64
    Does anyone know what the gross weight of the new Pathfinder will be? There is a significant tax incentive to purchase SUVs/Trucks with a Gross Weight (loaded) of 6000 lbs. or more.

    Nothing like Uncle Sam paying for almost half of an SUV used for business purposes.

    Thanks,

    Mike
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,651
    Actually torque is what you want for towing, hp helps but torque is what gets and keeps things going. I tow a 4500lb boat with my 01 Pathfinder and very rarely do I need the 240hp. The 265ft/lbs of torque at 3200 rpm are key. When I towed my boat down to Florida from Ohio I pulled up 5-6% grades thru West Virginia w/o a problem. I was able to maintain 60 mph in 3rd gear @3200 rpm and maintain speed at about 85% throttle. I'm interested in the new 4.0L because of its additional torque output. When I'm towing I rarely need to rev past 4500 rpm while accelerating except when merging onto the highway or when absolute max acceleration is needed, as long as the 3.5l is turning around 3k rpm, I generally have power to spare.
  • 2fastdre2fastdre Posts: 59
    Of course, you would think that one of these days Nissan will put a decent diesel engine into its trucks. The Jeep Liberty is coming out with a diesel. That little 2.8l 4cylinder thing doesn't have much HP, but almost 300 ft-lb of Torque. Not only will that thing tow your boat,
    but it will return considerably better mileage.

    By the way, do you have a separate transmission oil cooler on your Pathfinder? I will start towing a boat soon and I think I may to install one of those.

    2FastDre.
  • dieselonedieselone Posts: 5,651
    I'd love to see a diesel in a midsize or full-size SUV. I know the Excursion can be had with a diesel, but I don't need a 3/4 ton chassis or anything that big. A Pathfinder or Armada sized vehicle with a diesel would be ideal.

    The Liberty would be interesting with a small displacement turbo-diesel. My only real reservation regarding the Liberty, is the wheelbase length is shorter than the Pathfinder. I would like a little more wheelbase for more towing stability.

    I have not installed an external trans cooler. I was told by nissan that it's not needed if you stay within the tow ratings. I have not had any trans problems what so ever. If you plan on towing a lot in hot weather or up steep grades it would probably be a good idea to install one, especially if your boat will be at the high end of the tow rating. I keep close tabs on my trans fluid condition and change it regularly. By the time I had 30K racked up I towed my boat about 10k miles and the fluid looked pretty bad. I'm at 48k now and will probably change it again soon depending on how much I tow this summer.
  • 2fastdre2fastdre Posts: 59
    I am getting a relatively small ski boat (under 20 feet / 3500 lbs). That's well within the 5000 lb limit, but the 5000 tow limit is when the thing is otherwise mostly empty. I live in Denver area, so climbing steep inclines at high elevations with a boat is very likely in my future. I will ask about a cooler, but other than that I will watch my trans oil carefully (like you say).

    Thanks,
    2FastDre.
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    It is for Frontier.
    It says towing, 5500lb+. There is a footnote (*), which says "for V6 model only".

    My guess is that a V8 model is in the future. Other wise, what is the point of the footnote? A 4-cylinder?

    Just FYI.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Prolly a 4 banger, a big one, later. The current pickup offers one.

    -juice
  • nescovinnescovin Posts: 24
    I played around with the configurations. looks like they don't have leather seats as an option unless you choose the really expensive LE that is almost 7K more.Any inputs???
    Also when would this truck be available at the dealers?
  • neoneo Posts: 4
    So Nissan decided to 4Runner the Pathfinder. Take a nice looking vehicle (2004 Pathfinder, and 2002 4Runner) and make it look like the SUV that fell to earth, not to mention the extra poundage. Nissan doesn't need another Armada. One is one more than we need. Snatch up one of the the remaining 2004's while you can. They are deeply discounted and still good looking.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They did go back to basics for the truck. But the Pathy never sold as well as the 4Runner did, so it's hard to blame them. I think the XTerra was more of a success in terms of marketing.

    -juice
  • scotryanscotryan Posts: 4
    Yes Neo, you are absolutely correct....buy the '04 - I just did & got a $3250.00 rebate. Great selection is still available as Nissan's year-to-date sales on Pathy's are down almost 30% compared to last year. But I LOVE mine!!!!
  • hillaryhillary Posts: 1
    Yeah, I agree. I am now driving a 2002 Explorer XLS (really don't need 3rd-row seats) and am satisfied with it, generally, except that the seat are too hard and options are too limited. I will buy a Pathfinder next year if it offers two-row-seat lines and drives on regular gas (#87). The gas is the reason that I am not considering Mitsubishi Endeavor.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Nissan will use a 4.0l version of the VQ engine, to get a little more torque than the 3.5l.

    Haven't heard if it'll require premium, though. The current engine does, but its predecessor did not.

    Anyone know the octane requirement for the 4l?

    -juice
  • cericceric Posts: 1,093
    If Armada and QX56 are any good reference, the one used in Nissan would be requiring #87 and the one used in Infiniti would be requiring #91. It makes sense financially. No confirmed info.
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