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  • Wow! You [non-permissible content removed] lovers are all alike,

    When people like you post, it always brings a big smile to my face. I love to watch you Ford lovers blow a gasket over 4,500 lbs of metal and plastic. Your obviously a racist, and probably have your spy glass out watching the the california coast for Japanese Zeros on the Horizon. keep up the good work. It's enlightening posts like yours that will prevent Those "[non-permissible content removed]" companies from destroying our economy. Again, thanks for the laugh.

    side note: My struts are fine after 8,000 miles of on and off road use.
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Keep it civil - there is no need to attack other members when debating. If you can't restrain yourself from name-calling, this is not the place for you.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • Feel free to use Google and find other reports of multiple failures from 'extreme' use like rapid travel down dirt roads. That's how I came across them. I'm glad your truck is working out. I guess Edmunds' people, and the other folks out there with the same problems are just playing Dukes of Hazard, but are somehow avoiding any additional damage one would expect from that type of activity. Sounds almost like clever, focused, intentional vandalism meant to embarass Honda......right? Yeah, that's the ticket. Shame on Edmunds. Shame on the others with knocking shocks. Tisk Tisk.
  • bobwhobobwho Posts: 24
    Hey littez, just relax and take a chill pill. Yes, Honda has had it's share of recalls, just like every other auto company. But what bad info is there, after all it was reported by every media outfit. Every time there is a recall of a vehicle it is reported, so who's giving bad info. It's obvious you have a dislike for "[non-permissible content removed]"(Asian) models. That's ok, it's you're opinion. If you had read my last sentence you would have seen "lets agree to disagree". My opinion like everyone else is based on personal experience, media info, mag's, books, and web sites. It's than up to me and me only as to what to believe as factual info. If it disagrees with you're opinion, it's ok, since debate is good. But also there is something called courtesy too. If you have read any of my messages, you would not have seen any name calling or use of harsh language. This is a forum for debate on various aspects of certain types of vehicles, whether you like the vehicle or not.
  • Just purchased my ridgeline, and love it...but it drifts to right..told by dealship its normal.. 1-motor torque ( tire pressure equal, tire rotated, and tested while coasting in neutral) 2- factories build them this way to prevent accidents, in case you fall asleep at the wheel you wont go into oppisite traffic. any one experiencing this? is this normal? please help, mickey
  • bobwhobobwho Posts: 24
    Well, I decided to take you're advise and search Google for other reports of strut failures. So far I was unable to find any, except the one from Edmunds and on the Ridgeline Owners site. If possible could you give me and others here, some info as to the sites with the multiple failures. I'm just trying to be as informed as everyone else, who own's a Ridgeline or may be thinking of purchasing one. If there is a problem with the struts, than I'd like to know more about it. If the struts (Macpherson) are bad, what about all the other vehicles that are equiped with them. It would be interesting to know if any other types of vehicles have the same problem as the Ridgeline.
  • MacPherson struts aren't a brand name, they're a type of suspension. So just because one company is having issues with their parts (regardless of whether it's the supplier's fault or the vehicle manufacturer's fault) doesn't mean all the other vehicles equipped with MacPherson strut suspensions will have the same problem. Unless, of course, either the parts are identical (assuming the part is the problem) or the design is exactly the same (again, assuming that the specific design is at fault).
  • gd113gd113 Posts: 114
    You won't find the alleged posts through google because there aren't any. Anyone who is really following this knows of the few at the ROC. 5 failures out of over 30k sold. I would be happy to admit there is a widespread problem if it actually existed. I don't think the issue is Honda owners being defensive its the Honda bashers that are desperate for something to criticize Honda on. 9k on my truck and no problems, just more people asking about it including fed up Ford and Dodge owners.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,077
    >5 failures out of over 30k sold.

    That's incorrect. You mean 5 failures out of the number of vehicles being represented in the discussion here on Edmunds. That might be 100? 200? 500? How many are reading the discussion who own Ridgelines?

    Then how many with failures have even posted? If they post, they get criticized. Some don't post.

    Statistics...
  • gd113gd113 Posts: 114
    I'm just stating the approximate number of posts. Could there be more, sure. I do know that these boards tend encourage people to post problems as they seek answers more so than those who have no problems. To say there are hundreds is pure speculation. I'm just going by what is being reported on the various forums. That's the best we got right now.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,077
    I think you misunderstood my response. I meant you claimed there were only 5 out of 30,000 vehicles sold. It's 5 out of whatever smaller number is represented as readers here. Usually people will chime in if they read a comment on a problem they're also having or are aware of. Then people who don't have a problem will chime in in defense.
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    So do you think everything you read is true?
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    I wonder if that excuse will work for all the reported water leak problems? :cry: :cry: :cry:
  • Yes, this makes sense. All cars should drift to the right to avoid accidents, to counteract engine rotation, to stay off the crown of the road, to enhance talk show reception, etc.

    Its simply amazing what otherwise sensible people will believe.
  • It is amazing that someone could keep a straight face while giving this excuse.

    Do they make an adjustment for Ridgelines in England so that they pull to the left?
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,784
    ... in the NHTSA complaints database. There is only one structure complaint - about the early model "water leak" problem.

    I'm sure the problem occurred here at Edmunds. However no private owners have filed complaints with the NHTSA. Compare that to the reports of, for example, Prius engine shutdowns, of which about 60 have been reported.

    If you have had this problem, I encourage you to file a report. That is the only way the NHTSA has to initiate safety investigations. Here is the URL:

    http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/

    Anyway, it is hard to believe this is a widespread problem when no one has reported it to the NHTSA.

    FYI, there were two complaints total. The other one was for a fuel tank that got punctured:

    " WHILE DRIVING, SOMETHING FROM THE ROAD PUNCTURED THE FUEL TANK. FUEL POURED FROM THE TANK IN A MATTER OF MINUTES. THE CONSUMER CONTACTED THE DEALER. THE CONSUMER FELT THE FUEL TANK WAS TOO SOFT IF IT COULD SUSTAIN A HOLE LIKE THE ONE IN IT."
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    I think we've seen five or six reports at the Ridgeline Owner's Club in addition to the Edmunds story. Why they haven't reported it to the NHTSA, I dunno. But I doubt it was just the work of trolls at that forum.

    Time will tell. It's too soon to be jumping to conclusions.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,784
    Well, here is the way to find out. Pass along the URL to anyone claiming they have had the problem. I would lay even odds that there will be very few (if any) additional reports made that include a VIN.
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    Just about ANY ridgeline owner that has reported
    ANY strut failure, water leak problem, or roof rack
    issue here at Edmunds has been chased off by fellow ridgeline owners as a liar or a fruitcake.

    Most never to post again.............. :lemon:
  • 5553543255535432 Posts: 150
    I am a Ridgeline owner and yes, I have my own share of problems regarding the two doors of my Ridgelines and the tow and hitch signal lights that the delearship screwed up.These minor problems caused me to go ballistic and post these problems in every forum I came across.I was chased and discredited, but my post was so accurate and consistent that Honda diehards just stopped responding to all the negatives about my Ridgeline.

    If a Ridge owner goes crazy over a minor flaw, what do you expect will be the reaction of GENUINE RIDGELINE OWNERS, they would be posting in every forum loathing their Ridgelines, unless of course they are just trolls wanting to join the trolling bandwagon.

    I don't believe any REAL RIDGE owner with his/her $30,000-$40,000 truck would allow himself to be chased out of forums for posting negatives about their truck.ANYONE WHO ALLOWS ONESELF TO BE CHASED OFF BY OTHER RIDGE OWNERS EVEN UNDER THE ANONYMITY OF THE NET IS ONE FAKE RIDGE OWNER FRUITCAKE WHOSE ONLY EXPERIENCE WITH THE RIDGE IS SEEING ONE IN PICTURES OR THE NET. :shades:
  • gd113gd113 Posts: 114
    Don't take this Geo guy seriously. Read his other posts. He is just an annoyance who is desperate to slam Honda. Check out the ROC. Everyone there is helpful to any problems a Ridgeline owner might have. Of the 1,900 members 5 have had a strut problem. 5/1,900 = .24% wow, stop the presses. What maker produces vehicles with 100% perfection. Certainly not GM or Ford or god forbid Honda. Did you read the Nov. sales figures? Of course Ford and GM continue to drop. Honda and Toyota had their biggest Novembers ever. Ridgeline had its biggest month ever. Gee I wonder why? I guess there are alot of dumb car buyers out there, right? :surprise:
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    ...of the days when all the "real SUV" owners used to bash the soft-roaders like the CR-V and RX300.

    Right now CR-Vs are selling as many units as the Explorer. The entire crossover SUV segment is growing while the BOF designs are having production cut and factories closed.

    It'll take a while, but the market will change and the other players will be forced to adapt. Ridgeline sales have been building slowly, but with November's sales adding to the tally, Honda will make their 40K per year target.
  • bobwhobobwho Posts: 24
    Ok, Geo9, that's really interesting, since most people that post a problem with their Ridgeline are trashed for buy one in the first place. I've seen some posts from owners that are upset over a problem and have later learned it was fixed. So far, Almost every post you make is negative or mocks, those that are owners or thinking of buying a Honda Ridgeline. As I have said in almost every post, I make. Lets agree to disagree. Theirs no need to be negative or mock any certain vehicle. I read these posts to be informed and make the most positive choice as to buy or not. Every time, someone posts a problem, I learn more on whether it is a major or minor problem. I don't need to lurk around like some others here and add fuel to the fire for owning a certain vehicle. No one wins anything by being negative, but everyone does win by being objective and obtaining useful info on positive and negative problems and corrective actions.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Well stated.
  • "Just about ANY ridgeline owner that has reported
    ANY strut failure, water leak problem, or roof rack
    issue here at Edmunds has been chased off by fellow ridgeline owners as a liar or a fruitcake.

    Most never to post again.............. "

    And yet you still post in this thread and you do not even own a RL....now why is that.... :lemon:
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    Just calling them as I see them............
    Along with other NON owners

    Just reread post #1942. A post from a REAL owner who
    has had problems. I think his post says it all.........
  • Myob, great post. It summarizes what is wrong with all these guys using pickups as high speed, personal commuter vehicles. Look around any construction site and the workers all commuted usually before 7:00 AM in darkness and sometimes over black ice in 3/4 ton pickups with the handling characteristics of a Conestoga wagon. Or the office workers who commutes in from the 'burbs at 75 MPH in a Taco. Simply nutty. I too love it when the small town guy with a 15 year old pickup opines on the dynamic handling characteristics of a pickup based on his trips to the town dump.

    I like the Dodge Ram 1500 (none of the miserable vibration problems that afflict the F150) as do you. But for anything involving an interstate we'll take the XC or the Cayenne, thank you.
  • ustazzafustazzaf Posts: 311
    I went to the site to see what the buzz is about. I read through about 20 "complaints". There may have been 2 that were worthy of the time it takes to investigate them. Most say "my buddies are all complaining about this problem". Another talked about the dealer replacing parts in his auto tranny that only are present in a stick. Many are just a copycat of the previous report. Right now there are no reports for the 05 Ridgeline and only 2 for the 06. Either the moderator owns a Ridge or the Ridge haters haven't found the site yet. Or with all the tucks still on the lot, the only people that have driven them are the salesmen. One complaint was that the rear view has a blind spot. Was that blind spot there when the truck was new? You gotta take the posts for what they are.
  • bobwhobobwho Posts: 24
    Yes, chuckle all you want. That owner from post 1942 has a problem that if you will read was caused by the poorly installed equipment. If I had that problem, I also would be upset. Also I would be seeking advise from others to resolve the problem with the least amount of hassle to me. If not I would be calling the Corp Office and demanding action and even taking legal action. You are not helping matters by adding insult to injury. Yes, I know, "You Call as You See It". I'm sure I could call you alot of things too, but I will not. This forum is to bring out issues positive and negative for owners and those thinking of owning a Ridgeline. Each time a issue is brought up, than a meaningful and informative debate on "How, Why, Who, What" can be found to resolve the issue. Also "I own a Ridgeline and enjoy driving it and using it for what it was designed for. I have not had any problems with leaks, struts, etc. That does not mean, I will not have a problem in the future.
    But when I do, I will bring it up and ask for advise to hear, what other owners have done to resolve it or not. Everyone has a right to voice their opinion and you have made it very clear as to what you think of the Ridgeline. So how about trying to add something positive to help resolve any issues. That's just my opinion.
  • Ridgeline takes on Baja 1000!!!!
    Ridgeline Competes in the Baja 1000
    The following story and photos recounting the racing of the Honda Ridgeline at the Baja 1000 are courtesy of Doug MacMillan of Hondata Inc., a supplier of hardware and software solutions for tuning Honda and Acura engine computers exclusively. MacMillan works alongside many race teams, such as H.A.R.T (Honda America Race Team), to provide tuning and support. Hondata is in no way affiliated with Honda Motor Company.

    Last weekend, I embarked on a trip to Ensenada, Mexico to participate in the Baja 1000 - the most demanding off-road race in the world. Always one for challenges, Honda, in conjunction with Clive Skilton's California Race and Rally, entered the newly released Ridgeline.

    With less than 90 miles on the odometer and 15 miles worth of testing, the Ridgeline lined up in class 7S (Stock mini trucks) for a 709 mile 30 hour race. This year saw over 320 competitors - the largest number ever.

    The truck left at 12:20 p.m. Friday morning, as it howled down the groomed riverbed surrounded by thousands of spectators. Thanks to an aggressive automatic transmission reprogram by Honda engineers and custom-built race headers by Prototype Racing, the Ridgeline sounded awesome. So much power was on tap that the Ridgeline caught up to one of its class competitors, a Hummer, in three miles!

    As Clive attempted to climb the first hill out of town, he encountered a number of stuck trucks, including one truck reversing down the hill. A second attempt failed, so this time the weight was reduced to the tune of one co-driver. Newly unencumbered, the Ridgeline sailed up the sandy mountain ... only to have to wait for the co-driver to complete the climb the old fashioned way.

    Soon after, the Ridgeline hit a booby trap. Unfortunately the locals find great amusement in digging and disguising holes on the racecourse. Into one such hole the Ridgeline dropped, bending the drive shaft. This had to be removed, thus dropping the truck back to front wheel drive only. This did not impede progress too much, but a puncture did, slicing a five-inch gash into the sidewall. After changing the tire, the Ridgeline made it to the first pit stop at the 86-mile mark at 4 p.m. While checking the tires it was found that two of the wheel studs had stripped. This would be the longest pit stop. But a straight drive shaft was installed, the stripped wheel studs replaced, the truck refueled, and it was sent on its way into the night again. Fuel consumption was measured at six miles per gallon, fairly typical for this type of driving.

    Later into the night, the team came down off the mountain to encounter the feared silt beds. As fine as talcum powder, the silt beds form from the infrequent rains that wash material off the mountains into the riverbeds. Silt beds can be as little as one foot, or as deep as three feet, and there were five miles of silt beds to cross. Hitting a silt bed throws off visibility entirely as none of the vehicles have windscreens, thus allowing a curtain of silt to blanket the hood and enter the cabin.

    Jason Lafortune, the second shift driver, encountered the silt beds in the dark at 9 p.m. As he ventured into the murky dust cloud he saw a number of stuck trucks. What to do? Rule 1: Do not stop or else you will be digging yourself out for the next hour. So full throttle it was, and around the trucks he drove, as if on a Sunday drive to the corner store - albeit at 6000 rpm in second gear at wide-open throttle. For the next 5 minutes Jason weaved around firmly stuck Fords and Hummers, sometimes having to drive blind through eight-foot tall bushes to avoid impact with them. At times he was driving completely blind for 10-20 seconds at a time. When the dust had cleared, about 25 vehicles had been overtaken. It was then that the Hummer team managed to find the team's radio frequency. "Two questions," they said. "How did you do that," and "how far to get to clear ground?" "It's a Honda," Jason replied, "and you've got about another four miles to go."

    The combination that helped the Ridgeline across the silt beds were its relatively low weight in comparison to some of the 6-8000 pound trucks, its relatively flat underside, the torque, tires and transmission improvements.

    "The engine and top end power delivery is better than any other vehicle I have driven in the Baja," Jason later expounded. "The sound of the V6 howling through the open exhaust is absolutely awesome - especially while overtaking others on the fast sections. Up to the top of the mountain we had the Ridgeline easily climbing over two and three foot rocks. All we had to do was engage low gear and the VTM lock."

    At midnight Gavin Skilton took over and from here on it became clear what the team's Achilles heel would be. While the tire choice was excellent for the silt crossing and high-speed sections, the sidewalls of the tire were not strong enough to resist the constant battering and slashing from the bigger rocks in the infamous Matomi Wash south of San Felipe. Punctures were occurring about every 50 miles, which put the team further and further behind. By early Saturday morning the team missed reaching a timed checkpoint before closing time, resulting in a retirement. At that time the team had traversed over half of the 700-mile course.

    Mechanically, the car was in perfect condition. All the CV joints, ball joints and suspension components were still in the right places and doing what they should. In addition, the vehicle improvements made by California Race and Rally performed flawlessly.

    "This vehicle has the best 4-wheel drive system I have used," Gavin Skilton revealed after the race. "With a better tire choice and a little more ground clearance and wheel travel, the Ridgeline would be tough to beat."

    Technically the race was a great success. Nothing on the Ridgeline failed. This is what racing is about and this is how to improve the breed. Get out there and push the limits. Find what breaks and fix it. Currently Clive and Gavin are preparing the Ridgeline for more racing a little closer to home in early December. I have no doubt they will do very well.
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