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  • I bought the RTS. If I had to do it over again, I would buy the RTL. With the RTS, one would have to buy the satellite radio kit and have it hooked up. The antenna is on the inside corner of the front windshield. Lot of signal loss. Take a look at steel blue. Mike
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    It's hard to say. I like my RT-L, but if money was a factor, I could easily live with the RT. The fabric is really nice in the RT-S.
  • njdevil5njdevil5 Posts: 26
    hypecat:
    So many choices, so little time. I was debating between the RTS & RTL. I couldn't justify the $1300 for leather and a few other options. I'm very happy with fabric and comfort of the RTS. I have approx. 10,000 miles on mine and have enjoyed every one (except when a rock cracked the windshield). I didn't have an option on the RT at the time, but from what I remember in the brochure, there was enough of a difference in my mind to justify the upgrade. I selected black. When the truck is clean (which is very often) it looks unbelievable. It's a lot of work to keep that way. I also like the steel blue which also wasn't easy to find in my version back in early March. I'd imagine that this would be easier to keep clean. Good luck.
  • Has anyone tried to hook up an iPod to the Aux. port located above the glove box provided with Nav? If so, what brand/make of cable did you use?

    Thanks.
  • Well, I filled my tank for the first time today. went 368 miles and it took 18.5 gallons not bad. better than i had thought. this is my first real big truck, so i was alittle nervous :
    i think it holds 22 gal?? am i wrong? my old Bravada 2002 17 gallon tank i could only go 300 miles at best, so i doing okay.
    so far... nice truck, just need to get used to backing up in the city, the sales rep said i should get mud flaps, which might be a good idea.. any comment on that.
    I live in New England so I should probably get a cover for the back before the winter but 1500 bucks seemed like alot of money i like the cover they have for the Ridgeline, its seems solid, but i heards its a nightmare to take it off when you actually need to use the entire cab. any thoughts? I also heard it may leak? any thoughts? do you think their cover is the best one i should get or others> hopefully alittle cheaper. I love the push button back window, cool feature!
  • hypecathypecat Posts: 10
    Well, I bought a Black RT (my wife says I'm cheap!), I decided on the RT because they only one they had was black and the mirrors and door handles match (the mirrors and door handles are black on the RTs and would not have looked right on any other color). Sat in a RT-L with roof and XM and just could not justify the addtional $4700. The steel wheels look better than I thought they would, but I may get a set of "take off" alloys. Anyway, I am happy with the truck, it is very nice. Need to get a towing package, anyone know where the best deals are "online"?
  • kaybkayb Posts: 4
    We have had our Ridgeline RT-L for 7 weeks. We just love it. It is the blue and my husband has only washed it once. It doesn't look dirty. He drives it to work everyday. He is happy with the gas mileage. He says he gets a lot better then his Ford Expl. The ride is much better in fact I think it rides better than any other truck I have been in. We think the XM radio is just great. He raerly wanted to put the radio on in our other vehicles but with this one he never has turned it off.
  • Anyone fitted a set of 19 X 8.5 inch wheels to the Ridgeline yet? Does the Ridgeline accept the Acura MDX 5-114 bolt pattern? If so did you have any clearance problems? I am thinking of this wheel matched to a 255/50/19 tire. Your help is appreciated.
  • Joe: thanks for the tip about the paint. I just loaded by kid's bike in the back and it scratched the bed and sides in several places. I will try a liner as well.

    roger
  • homersridge: I just received my EX-L about a month ago. It is silver, with grey interior, mostly loaded except no moonroof, roofrack, foglights or navigation system. I really like the leather seats and that it uses regular gas (way cheaper, even in Alberta).

    Minor complaints:
    a) bedliner scratches easily (may need rubber liner),
    b) driver's side mirror glass popped out of socket after a car wash and real difficult to re-attach (may need to go to dealer to fix),
    c) temperature control is finicky (blows warm air when the vehicle is cold in the morning even if the outside temp is warm, still figuring out the manual controls).

    Roger
  • rrbhokiesrrbhokies Posts: 108
    Just took delivery of my Steel Blue RTS this weekend. Since the Ridgeline doesn't have a cassette deck like my old car, I couldn't use my iPOD through the stereo like I used to.

    So, the first thing I did was picked up a Griffin Roadtrip for my iPOD. This is a really sweet unit. It's a combination DC Adaptor, Charger and FM transmitter all in one. It plugs into the power ports on the dash, and holds the iPOD. You set the FM Transmitter anywhere between 88.1 and 107.9 and it plays back through the stereo. Plus, it's a charger for the iPOD so you don't have to worry about draining batteries. I can even leave the backlight on the whole time, making it really easy for me to see what's playing. I have the iPOD photo, so it has a really nice color screen. Best of all, there are no dangling wires anywheres, no batteries to change, and it doesn't interfere with any of the other controls on the dash because the power ports are nice and low on the unit. It's also really easy to transport and I can just yank it out and put in our Odyssey and it works and fits great in there too!

    For about $60 on sale, I am finding this to be a great fit for using my iPOD in the Ridgeline and just wanted to share my experience. :shades:
  • jh6jh6 Posts: 1
    I would like to clarify something. I find it very disturbing the false information that is posted on the internet by know-it-alls whom have no knowledge! First, I am a mechanical engineer specializing in fluid dynamics. I am not going to bore you with any great knowledge I may have learned "a number of years ago"! I would recommend that everyone (especially the author of the previous post) to perform the following experiment and determine for themselves the effect of a tailgate on aerodynamics. Hold your hand out of the window of a moving car (approximately 40-60mph for the best test). With your fingers facing toward the front of the vehicle and hand horizontal with the ground, make a mental note of the drag you experience (the amount force the air puts on your hand). Now, rotate your hand skyward (fingers pointing up), and the palm of your hand toward the front of the car. Notice the drag on your hand now. Obviously, the drag on a horizontal hand is much less then a vertical hand. This will correlate to the difference between a covered bed and a bed with a tailgate. You can decide which would provide better gas mileage. Also, another interesting improvement with a bed cover is the elimination of the turbulent air in the bed. This turbulence causes a truck to experience a "jerkyness" at higher speeds. With a bed cover it is eliminated providing a much smoother ride.
  • jerrywimerjerrywimer Posts: 588
    I guess the post you're referring to was removed because I see none in this topic on the subject of the tailgate being up or down, and post 1432 is missing.

    On the other hand jh6, you should do some more research. In the first place with your example, the cab isn't in front of your hand.. There have been actual wind tunnel test studies of this, both by GM and independently. One example follows:

    Aerodynamic Characteristics of General Motors Truck

    Motor Magazine also had an article with similar information and conclusions-
    Motor Magazine Eye on Electronics article .pdf
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    I would like to clarify something. I find it very disturbing the false information that is posted on the internet by know-it-alls whom have no knowledge!

    There is no turbulence in the RL bed. The wind does not hit the back of tailgate. there is no benefit to a cover or leaving the tailgate down. Trust me on that one, that's straight from Gary Flint the RL engineer. He would know. The RL is designed so that wouldn't happen. It's kind of ironic that your the one posting false info. You should be certain of what your saying before posting, instead of just posting your assumptions.
  • whaleyawhaleya Posts: 28
    I don't quite understand the concern the some have over scratches in the bed??

    The bed is NOT steel. The bed will not rust.

    On a different subject... The example of drag on a human's hand outside the window would only be revelent as an example if my truck were shaped like a giant, hairy hand!
  • Glad you are enjoying your Ridgeline with the Griffin Roadtrip. I had been using the Griffin iTrip (not as good as the Roadtrip but works).

    To avoid the potential RF interference of the FM modulator, I was hoping to use the Auxillary port located above the glovebox. Are you aware of any cables that will work for this purpose?

    Thanks in advance.
  • 4wdave4wdave Posts: 16
    Be careful with the Roadtrip! I blew out two IPODs with mine, and the manufacturer doesn't even reply when I ask about a replacement...
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    Posted by a guy that knows the RL inside and out I would say.

    Wow – there are so many issues at play here it is difficult to know where to start. Let’s go through each of the arguments in play and separate the myths from the facts. The overall discussion seems to be centered first on drive train and engine type so let’s start there and then cover some of the other peripheral issues:

    V8 vs. V6
    Honda is first and foremost and engineering company - NOT a marketing organization staffed with spin doctors. That transcends to everything that is done from the design to the overall company philosophy. Specifically, the Ridgeline is equipped with a 3.5L high performance V6 engine. It is true it lacks a low tech valve-in-head V8 engine designed in 1954. However, let’s focus on the engineering results and performance: Unloaded, the Ridgeline out-accelerates the two highest volume full size competitors: Ford F150 and Chevrolet Silverado/Avalanche. It is also within several tenths of a second acceleration when coupled to a 5,000 pound trailer compared to F150 with the optional 5.4L V8 and optional axle ratio. It also out accelerates an Avalanche in the same test with a trailer. As far as fuel economy is concerned, it achieves 21 mpg real world fuel economy. NONE of the competition actually achieves the label fuel economy in the real world. The full size V8 competitors achieve approximately 14-16mpg depending on the driving mode and speed. Based on the facts, I would say the Ridgeline accomplishes better performance in a more efficient package: A successful engineering solution.
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    4wd Drive train
    It is true; the Ridgeline is a transverse mounted drive train. This is why it is able to pack the equivalent package interior volume and bed length in an overall length that is 18 inches shorter than a Ford F150 Crew cab. This results in package that is fits in a garage and is maneuverable in the real world. Additionally, there seems to be some misconception about the 4wd launch philosophy of the Ridgeline. The Ridgeline 4wd drivetrain is a predictive (rather than reactive) system unlike the competitors. It ALWAYS launches in 4WD mode. It removes power from the rear wheels when the conditions permit (i.e. cruise & no-slip condition). In fact, whenever throttle is being applied, the system begins to apply torque to the rear wheels. This strategy results in a more fuel efficient solution and is more functional in the real world (particularly when towing in the rain – a mode where the competitor’s demonstrate dismal performance).
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    Body Construction
    The Ridgeline incorporates a Unibody construction with an integrated frame with 7 high strength steel cross members. The primary frame section is 70% deeper than conventional SUV construction. Contrary to popular opinion, this is not shared with the Pilot or MDX. The body is 93% exclusive and was specifically designed to meet the severe demands of the intended truck vocation. During the early design process, unibody construction was benchmarked against conventional Body-on-Frame architecture. The ultimate strength in the overloaded condition was also chosen as a design target for the Ridgeline. The final body design is more weight efficient and achieves equivalent performance in terms of the failure point in overloaded mode. It is 20 times stiffer in torsion, 2.5 times stiffer in bending, achieves SUPERIOR crash performance (the only truck to EVER achieve 5 Star front AND 5 Star side impact performance. Additionally, in the dynamic rollover test, it achieves the BEST EVER performance in the dynamic roll-over test (4 star in the NTSA dynamic test with no wheel tip-up) If you look at some of the videos contained on this site: when the body is twisted with one wheel 5 feet in the air, all the doors can be opened and closed, the tailgate is fully functional. The competition can not achieve this level of performance. Additionally, the cab and box contact each other during this maneuver in the competition. What the conventional (old world) body on frame construction is superior at achieving is low-cost construction with an ability to spin many different body and cab configurations. The Ridgeline targets the core volume segment of the market: personal transportation 4 door trucks.
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    Handling
    The Ridgeline benefits from the basic architecture of the platform: stiff, efficient Unibody construction with an integrated truck frame that utilizes independent rear suspension. If we look at either slalom speed or max lateral G’s pulled in a corner, the Ridgeline simply blows the competition away. In fact, it is so good, it outperforms the Honda 2 door Accord on both fronts. If we look at aftershake or head toss as two additional measures of ride quality: again the Ridgeline simply blows the competition away. It is simply in a class by itself in terms of ride and handling. No other truck can come close. In the real world where these vehicles are used for commuting and transporting the family – the vehicle really excels. Now let’s talk about loaded handling. Again even when loaded, there is no comparison. The Ridgeline maintains its composure when carrying the max payload. I have driven it both on the track and over a real world road course with the rated payload. I would never attempt any high speed handling maneuvers in any of the competition at rated payload. This was demonstrated to the press during the launch event. Some of the competitors are so poor during this type of vocation, during the media events an EMS crew was standing by in case someone driving the competitors went outside the friction circle.
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    Payload
    The Ridgeline rated payload in the bed is a genuine 1100 pounds on every grade. The Ridgeline has more rated payload than a Ford F150 crew cab. In fact a Chevrolet Avalanche can not haul a half ton with 2 passengers. Neither can the Chevrolet Colorado, Toyota Tacoma, nor Ford Sport Trac. This is also the ONLY truck in the compact or so called mid-size category that can fit a 48 inch wide module flat on the floor of the bed.
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    Snow/Ice Performance
    The Ridgeline is equipped with the most advanced drivetrain available on any truck in the market. It is a full time, fully automatic 4wd system. Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) is standard on every grade and fully functional even in 4wd mode. It is also equipped with standard brake assist to provide the shortest possible stopping distance in real world panic situations. It is the most stable system in the snow while providing an extremely intuitive automatic system. The driver simply needs to apply throttle and steer to navigate difficult split mu hills (one side ice/ the other asphalt): stomp and steer!!
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    Off-Road Performance
    The Ridgeline is not equipped with a low ra
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Posts: 408
    continued

    Off-Road Performance
    The Ridgeline is not equipped with a low range 4wd transmission which permits more throttle modulation over severe hills or rocks. It also does not posses as good of approach or departure angle as the compact trucks. However, it is competitive with Full Size trucks. The Ridgeline does lack the capability conventional systems offer in limited circumstances. Based on extensive research, 99% of the customers that own trucks do not operate them in extreme environments where a low-tech, cheap and heavy system excels. If you are one of the 1% of the customers in the market that needs this kind of performance, I would recommend you buy a Tacoma as mentioned several times in this forum. It is the ONLY competitor that offers packaging or performance that is competitive to the Ridgeline. Let’s give the good old boys a chance and toss them a bone.
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    Towing
    As previously mentioned, the Ridgeline body and powertrain were designed to perform honestly and safely in the real world at the stated towing rating. Again, extensive research was done in the towing arena. Over 40,000 truck customers received surveys to inquire about their towing needs. It was learned over 85% of the market needs were covered by a 5000 pound towing specification. Again, like payload, it is an honest rating. Even the heaviest grade Navi model can tow the stated payload with passengers and luggage. Again – I’ll graciously give this to the good old boys in terms of max rated towing. However, the Ridgeline is more stable at the rated payload. Further, it can ACTUALLY tow its rated payload with the tongue load required to maintain stable handling. If your needs require frequent towing with a trailer over 5000 pounds, you are better off with a HD truck with a Diesel. By the way – that is not a Ford F150 which is inherently unstable. Stick with the Silverado (not an Avalanche) and order a Diesel and be prepared for the associated compromises (cost, noise, acceleration, fuel availability).
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    Innovation
    The Ridgeline is the only vehicle on the market with an in-bed truck and dual mode tailgate. The tailgate is the strongest tailgate in the industry in terms of rated payload or ultimate strength. It excels at both providing unprecedented flexibility and capability unique in the market. This is the first example of groundbreaking innovation in the segment in 30 years. The Ridgeline delivers on addressing an unmet need in the market by providing a method to provide integrated secure storage in a truck. The ultimate strength of the tailgate is so great it is strong enough to actually park two Ridgelines up next to each other end-to-end and park another Ridgeline on the horizontal surface of both tailgates. The bed tie downs are strong enough to pick the entire truck up from the 4 lower points. The tow hooks are strong enough to pick two Ridgelines up end-to-end and pick up an F150 behind the 2nd (3 vehicles in total- end-to-end) It is both innovative and tough.

    Making an automotive purchase is complex decision matrix involving many emotional issues. Everyone has their own opinions and taste. You may knock the Ridgeline due to your individual opinion about styling, or your specific needs for severe off-road use (0.5% of the market) or extreme towing needs (15% of the towing truck segment). However, do not knock it due to its actual capabilities as general purpose light duty truck. In that arena (which is 90% of the market – and 100% of the growth area of the market), the Ridgeline is vastly superior. Keep your opinions and misinformation to your self. Stick to the facts. This issue has been validated by both extremes in the automotive press: Car and Driver and Consumers Reports. When stacked up against the competition, the Ridgeline came out on top.

    If you are seeking low cost minimalist transportation, this is not the vehicle for you. If you are seeking the most advanced, best handling, most innovative, and best value truck on the market, the Ridgeline is the solution. If your needs require severe off-road duty, severe towing use, or you are not confident with certain aspects of your anatomy (hmm - there are many surgical solutions), you should probably shop elsewhere. Everyone is entitled to an opinion – step up to the plate and reinforce yours with facts.

    Happy Shopping!!
    K
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,788
    "I guess the post you're referring to was removed because I see none in this topic on the subject of the tailgate being up or down, and post 1432 is missing.

    On the other hand jh6, you should do some more research. In the first place with your example, the cab isn't in front of your hand.. There have been actual wind tunnel test studies of this, both by GM and independently. One example follows:

    Aerodynamic Characteristics of General Motors Truck

    Motor Magazine also had an article with similar information and conclusions-
    Motor Magazine Eye on Electronics article .pdf"

    Well, the links support buying a tonneau cover. Each of them said that the pickup is more airflow efficient with the tonneau cover. One link said 11%, I think the other was over 20%.
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