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Toyota Camry 2005 Facelift

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  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    2005s have steering wheel audio controls, including the Standard grade. Auto climate control is far from a deal breaker, if you ask me, but I agree- its the only feature/content issue that the SE faces.

    ~alpha
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    If I were to get one I would probably lean towards an XLE or SE with few options partly because the the LE is so generic, they are almost a commodity like pork bellies. Hertz buys Camry LEs by the trainload.
    XLEs and SEs are hardly "rare," but at least you won't see a dozen exactly the same in the same row of the parking lot.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    is starting to buy the Standard edition, fwiw, but I agree on your point regarding the SE and XLE. The XLE has a good deal of the market share in NJ, though, be it 4 or V6, I feel that a lot more Camrys this generation are XLEs.

    ~alpha
  • My problem with the SE is that the sunroof is mandatory and I don't have enough headroom. I want the more powerful 3.3L engine but it is only available in the SE. It seems that nobody makes the perfect car. I might be forced to consider the Accord LX V-6 (I don't fit in the EX due to lack of headroom from the mandatory moonroof) even though it has ugly exterior styling.
    I don't understand why Toyota continues to build the old 3.0L when they put the newer and much torquier 3.3 in so many other vehicles: Sienna, Highlander, Camry SE, ES330, RX330. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to kill the 3.0, especially if it's built on a different assembly line?
  • cam2003cam2003 Posts: 131
    Just a quick look through brochure for 2005 models, there is no XLE I4 is offered in Canada. I guess they could not sell many XLEs ...
    Not sure that I like the new gauges, too generic.
    The old design was quite different from anyone else: temperature gauge inside tach, gas gauge inside speedometer.
    There is an A+ for new grill, it removes round feeling of the hood
  • dolphindolphin Posts: 71
    The 3.3 is available in the XLE. I am 6'1" and had enough head room with the sunroof...
  • dolphindolphin Posts: 71
    well then the sales guy here in Brandon FL doesn't know anything about these vehicles....not a small leap there! cannot get a brochure here yet, and the online one did not mention the audio controls on the SE.
  • The 3.3 is available with the XLE? I hope you are correct, but toyota's website and my dealer say no. Will it be a late availability?
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    The 3.3 is on the SE only as shown on the Toyota web site and you can see by going to any Toyota dealership in the US.
  • dolphindolphin Posts: 71
    Well, the sales guy opened the hood and there it was...3.3
  • bklynguybklynguy Posts: 275
    there was a 3.3L V6 in the XLE you saw ??? I thought Toyota would switch to the 3.3 later in the 05 model year with the LE/XLE (as soon as they ran out of the 3.0). If we decide to purchase the V6, I want to make sure we get the 3.3L if its available on the LE/XLE.

    As Alpha stated above, I don't believe climate control is a deal-breaker, but its nice to have if you can get it.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I am 99% SURE the XLE does NOT have the 3.3L engine. Id have to see it with my own eyes to beleive it, in fact. Toyota mentioned nothing of a switch in their official press release.

    ~alpha
  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    They may have been really been looking at an SE or there was a massive mistake at the Toyota factory either with the actual engine or just the engine cover labeled "3.3L."
  • lena132lena132 Posts: 56
    I saw a new Camry today and I really liked the grill. What was funny was that for some odd reason, we had the 1st, 2nd, 3rd (me), 4th, and the 5th generation ('05) all in one lane. Talk about coincidence. Even some owners took notice. Then I had my Camry next to her '05 Camry and what a difference 10 years make. I feel old now.
  • bklynguybklynguy Posts: 275
    Its possible that a worker placed the wrong engine cover over the 3.0L engine (or the engine really is a 3.3L and the vehicle was released prematurely)
  • bernie3bernie3 Posts: 48
    A few weeks ago I did back to back test drives of a 2004 Camry LE & '04 Accord LX -- both automatics. The main difference, most people agree, is in the ride, with the Camry being a softer ride. I plan to buy the '05 Camry in the next couple of months. I've not driven an SE, but am told is has a sportier suspension. Is it closer to the Accord than the Camry LE in this regard?... Or perhaps firmer even than the Accord?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    The suspension in the Camry SE is indeed much closer to that of the Accords, and offers greater surefootedness at the minimal cost (in my opinion) of a firmer, but not harsher, ride.
    IMO, the Camry SE 4 and V6 (equipped with a few options) compare favorably to the Accord EXs.

    ~alpha
  • rutger3rutger3 Posts: 361
    From what i can see the 05 pluses are:
     - ABS standard, about time
     - 5 speed auto trans.,thank you Accord
     - 1 mpg better

    The misses are:
     - Side curtains still an option, not good, always seem to be one year behind Accord.
     - think they could have increased the mileage a bit more with a little extra tuning,and gone one up on the Accord.

    The unknowns:
     - will SE models be more available
     - will side curtains be more available
     - will incentives be needed
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    The MPG on the automatics is up from 23/32 to 24/34, which is one better city and two highway.

    Otherwise, nice assessment. There are a few other detail pluses that Im a big fan of, such as the center rear head restraint, the power lumbar support on LE grades (and up), and the new instrumentation and covered bin in center stack.

    ~alpha
  • toycashtoycash Posts: 139
    Actually, power lumbar was added last year. The transmission on the 4-cyl is different from the 6-cyl. Steering wheel audio controls are standard across the board now, along with new steering wheel designs.

    I think the availability of VSC and TRAC on the 4-cyl. is a good change also.
  • rampedramped Posts: 358
    Do we really need another family sedan with these expensive 17" wheels and tires? I mean, how much high performance slaloming does Toyota think we are going to do in a 3,400 pound car?

    That and the new tailights are the only big complaints I have about the 05. Nice-looking car overall and much improved interior with the covered console. I agree that the side curtain airbags should be standard, but standard ABS is a nice step forward along with the 5spd auto transmission on the 4s.

    I've noticed that all of the salsa red Camrys in my region (Southeast) come with a fawn interior for 05, so I guess they dropped the charcoal interior option for that color.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Im pretty sure Charcoal wasnt dropped on the Salsa Red SEs, and you dont HAVE to get 17 inch performance tires... 16 inchers are a no cost option. Do a little research before you unleash the negativity.....

    ~alpha
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    I wish it had been out when I bought my Altima...I would have probably gotten a V6 SE...

    Those rims are HOT...
  • cam2003cam2003 Posts: 131
    The 16" or 15" wheels are not proportional to car. If you look side way, the 15/16 wheels are too small for car. I'm glad that Toyota finally offers 17" wheels. Do anyone know what branch of tires they used ? Since 215/55/17 is not common.
  • rampedramped Posts: 358
    I was expressing an opinion, just like you and everyone else. If you wish to take it as negativity, that is your perogative...If you re-read my post, you will see that overall I like the car.

    In the Southeast Region, 16" wheels are options but they are an additional $600 to $900 depending upon the wheel you select. The website shows stone cloth as an interior option, but every 05 Camry in Salsa Red I've seen either in Central Florida or on the way has a fawn interior. Perhaps the stone interiors will come later...It may be different in your region.
  • tcamrytcamry Posts: 1
    Hey Guys, I purchased a new 05 Camry LE 4 cyl the other day while looking for an 04 with the $1000
    rebate. The dealership only had 3 04's left, 2 silver, one white. They didn't seem to push the 04's. When I saw the new Ice Blue color, I knew that was the one for me. The salesperson and sales manager said they had just got it in that afternoon and several people had already looked at it but not driven it. I told them that I didn't need to drive it, I needed to purchase it! We negotiated a great deal. Now for a little while, I'll be the only one in town with an 05 ice blue LE. The interior is stone, a shade darker than my previous 03 lt. gray, a welcome change because it won't show dirt as bad, nor will it show lint as bad as the charcoal. So far no problems and the gas mileage is more than expected and I love those steering wheel audio controls. When my co-workers left from work the other day and saw the new Camry from afar, they thought I had purchased a Lexus ES 330.
  • stevgestevge Posts: 19
    How much was the OTD(out-the-door) price you paid for your new 2005 Camry LE? Does it have automatic transmission? Did you add any option? Thanks for your information!
  • $18,583 OTD including tax & lic. for a 2005 Camry LE, mineral green with oak/tan interior. Beautiful car! Selling my 1999 Lexus GS 300 for this one - regular fuel, better mileage and very comfortable. And who can tell a Hyundai from a Mercedes anyway without the logo? Or a Camry from an ES 300? Can jumpstart my kids college fund with the savings from skipping that leather and fake woodgrain...
  • BTW, it is an automatic with no options except the floor mats. Happy negotiating!
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