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Toyota Camry 2005 Facelift

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  • 307web307web Posts: 1,033
    Oh, so they are not quite the same as in a Lexus. They do not have that 3-D "floating in the air" look?
  • toycashtoycash Posts: 139
    No, not quite, but they still look pretty good. Also, they light up sequentially, needles first, then speedo and tach, then temp and fuel gauges.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    Actually, the only Lexus that had the floating effect due to markings being projected onto the dashboard was the 1990-1992 LS400. All Lexus since then have merely been lighted from behind with either LED lights or neon tubes for needles. So the Toyota Camry's 2005 dash is basically the same as on Lexus, except in design.
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    Wasn't the 2003 Matrix the first Toyota (non-Lexus) vehicle to be equipped with optitron gauges?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,406
    Are the Matrix gauges optitron? I have read a lot of complaints about them. People can't see them with polorized sunglasses. Can't remember if it was the major gauges, just some of the minor displays, or all of them.
  • petlpetl Posts: 610
    We have a Matrix (purchased April 2002). It includes all of the gauges. I haven't had a problem with them because I don't wear sunglasses. The problem stems (based on the info I have read) from the colour. It's bright red. I can see where some may have some difficulty with it during the day. Looks great at night. I don't think the Camry will encounter the same issues with their optitron gauges. Debating whether we should trade our 2002 XLE for a 2005.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,406
    I doubt the LE would have problems with white on black, but the SE has a similar color to the Matrix. Of course if you don't wear sunglasses it is not an issue, and I don't. Besides I prefer the LE gauges anyway.
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    Aren't Optitron gauges the same thing as "Electroluminescent" gauges?
  • bklynguybklynguy Posts: 275
    "optitron" is the name Toyota uses for electroluminescent gauges (back-lit LED gauges which seem to appear when you start the vehicle), up to now used mostly on upscale/luxury vehicles like Lexus, Mercedes but that changed when LED gauges were introduced with the 2003 Accord. A really nice improvement which makes the Camry's interior more upscale IMO (you almost feel like you're driving a ES or maybe you are ;)

    has anyone taken a test-drive with the new 5-Speed 2.4L ? Toycash ?
    How is it ?
  • xxonxxon Posts: 13
    Went shopping today for the 2005 Camry LE 4cyl. Here are the upgrades I noticed: Different headlights (Lexus type?). ABS standard. Center console. Front & rear light. Side & Side curtain airbags are now optional (without moonroof). The biggest change was the gas mileage is now rated 24 city/34 hwy. Was this change made possible by the additional of the 5 spd. transmission? The Toyota website still does not list gas mileage for the 4 cyl automatic, but lists the manual 24/33. I wonder why the manual gets worse gas mileage, unless it is a misprint?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    No, I dont think the manual figures are a misprint, and yes, the improved MPG figures are due to the 5 speed auto. The two transmissions (the 5M and 5A) are geared differently, which accounts for the slight difference in economy for the 4 cyl. 5M vs the 4 5A.

    Side airbags and curtains have been offered since 2002, with or without moonroof, so thats not really a change. I have a friend whose parents purchased a 2003 XLE off the lot w/ curtains but no moonroof, for example.

    Did you purchase?
    ~alpha
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,406
    The EPA tests favor automatics, so a very efficient automatic can best a manual there, but probably won't in real driving. Still - that 34 ties the Accord.
  • xxonxxon Posts: 13
    Thanks for the info. No I didn't buy, but I was impressed. I don't know if it was my imagination or not, but the vehicle looked more sporty than the 2004. Up to this point, I was only considering the Accord or the Passat TDI which are in the same size class, but had better gas mileage (the Passat TDI is in too short supply to make it affordable, however). Now, the Camry is giving them a good run for the money.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    "Actually, the only Lexus that had the floating effect due to markings being projected onto the dashboard was the 1990-1992 LS400."

    Didn't the 1993-94 LS400 also have the "floating" gauges like the 1990-92? My grandfather had both a 1990 and a 1993 and I could swear they had the same gauges (but I may be wrong).
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I took a brief spin in a 2005 Camry LE 5A yesterday, lasting about 7 miles.

    Impressions:
    -The new instrumentation is very impressive and much better looking than the outgoing presentation.

    -The 5A is very responsive and the car felt fairly strong. But, in the ranges in which I tested it (nailed the go pedal from a start, from 30 to 50, and from 45 to 65), it felt about the same as the 2004. I was hoping it would feel a bit stronger. However, it should be noted that the version I drove was very green, with but 11 miles on the odometer, and was also PZEV, while our 2002 is ULEV.

    -The black trim that surrounds the center stack is unfortunate and cheap looking, and offsets the upscale and pleasant change to chrome-looking door handles.

    ~alpha
  • bklynguybklynguy Posts: 275
    is the black trim exclusive to the LE (not the XLE) ? We plan to take a spin in the 05 XLE & LE V6 this week (if time allows).
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Were LE 4 cylinders.

    One thing I forgot: I like the new grille of the 2005 Camrys, but the the taillights have yet to grow on me. I still the Lunar Mist Metallic is a terrible color on this car. The new wheel covers are more attractive than the old Standard/LE ones, as well.

    ~alpha
  • bklynguybklynguy Posts: 275
    yeah Alpha, I'm not crazy about the silver (or white for that matter). I'm not sure about the new color, mineral green. Based on the RX 300 which used to come in that color, it looks silver-gray with a hint of green. Red still appears to be No.1 on our list.
  • mbt1mbt1 Posts: 33
    Why have the Camry's crash test results gotten worse? I'm surprised that a large company like Toyota has not done more safety-wise to its bread and butter car, espcially when the Accord trounces it in both frontal and side crash results.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    I believe in 93 they switched the gauges that got rid of the 3D effect. But I could be wrong. But they did definately get rid of it for 1995 and no other Lexus had that 3D effect.
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