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New 2005 Altima: Interior and other info

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  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I agree that its good to get more than one perspective, but it should be noted that in most Customer Satisfaction studies relating to the sales experience, I believe Honda is typically rated more highly by JDPower than Toyota or Nissan. That said, I dont think any of the three is above the industry average.

    ~alpha
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    About mass market cars the Accord is not in demand like it was in the decade of the 90's. I would think Honda dealers would be more willing to be more flexible with selling Accord's than ever before.

    Max: just go to another Nissan dealership and try to deal. That was a salesman that I guess didn't want to make sale. I wish you the best luck on purchasing your Nissan since you have been researching Japanese Mid-size cars for like a year now.
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYPosts: 1,743
    Again, I was only relating my experience at one Honda dealer. As a returning new car customer with a lease about to expire, I should have received the red carpet treatment. What you say makes sense, but the clowns at Paragon Honda still think that they're on the gravy train of the 90s.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    I have decided not to fool with Crown Nissan in Greenville anytime soon.

    I plan to go out to Harrleson Nissan (Rock Hill, SC) and Superior and Independence Nissan (Both in Charlotte) tomorrow afternoon, after college.

    I have previously dealt with Harrelson, but I am not sure yet. I think I may deal with the dealerships in Charlotte first.

    I guess the reason the Honda dealership was so friendly with us is because we have previously dealt with that particular dealership.

    I have basically ruled the Accord out now because the Altima is the car I REALLY want.

    So we will see what happens tomorrow.
  • jumpnjoejumpnjoe Posts: 34
    Good luck Max. I was looking at another old board and saw one of your posts from like 2001, so I can see how much effort you put into this search. Glad you are getting what you want.

    Joe
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    I first wanted a 2000 Nissan Maxima back in June of 1999.

    That's when my love for cars started....and it hasn't stopped yet.

    I LOVE cars. Absolutely LOVE cars. That is why I am majoring in Packething Science/Automotive Engineer at Clemson University.

    The problem Nissan has is the value equation. The value equation is serious sorry...
  • jumpnjoejumpnjoe Posts: 34
    I agree Max, that's why I ended up in an Accord (which I love). Otherwise I would have had a much tougher decision. Their loss. I'm happy with my car, but understand why someone would go with an Altima's power and distinctive styling.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    I first wanted a 2000 Nissan Maxima back in June of 1999.

    That's when my love for cars started....and it hasn't stopped yet.

    I LOVE cars. Absolutely LOVE cars. That is why I am majoring in Packething Science/Automotive Engineer at Clemson University.

    The problem Nissan has is the value equation. The value equation is serious sorry...
  • I drove the new '05 3.5SE. I have to say that I was disappointed in the "improved" interior. It may look nicer, but most of the interior bits feel cheap and insubstantial. I actually think that the '04s interior felt more solid, even though it didn't look as good. Just my opinion.

    Also, I have to say that the lack of availability of the side airbag/ABS/traction control package on the sales lots really surprised me. I know it is a supply and demand thing, but still, you are paying $24,000 for a 250hp car with no ABS or TC!
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    the reason its not on lots is quite reasonable. price shoppers will go with one without it to save $800, and your competitor will win every time on the car without the pkg. we have a 2004 without the pkg. that we got on the lot in october. people would rather order one without than pay for something they dont want.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Oh, really? Honda doesnt seem to be having any issues selling Accord EX V6s in my area, and practically every single Camry XLE V6 in the Greater NY region is equipped with the VSC/Side Airbags option. Additionally, the current stock of Camry XLEs (MSRP about 24K) 4s all have Side Curtains in this region. Finally, Nissan is virtually alone in offering a midsize V6 sedan (the 3.5SE) that doesnt have ABS standard.

    I think you're making excuses for Nissans continued inattention to safety for the lower and mid-priced vehicles. No problem with vehicles that start above $25K- the Quest, Murano, and Maxima all have desirable Head Curtains and ABS standard.

    ~alpha
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    i was talking about dealers. if a shopper goes to every dealer and cant find one without it, then they will settle for it. the difference is that if they have the choice, they will pass on the equipment 8 out of 10 times.

    with honda, its not a choice.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    Safety stuff is optional and HARD to find.

    I went shopping today again for an Altima. None had side airbags, but ABS is supposed to be standard now on the 3.5SE automatic and 3.5SL models.

    Needless to say, I will definately not be buying a car now.

    It breaks my heart into pieces but oh well.

    I got some shocking news today and I have decided that IF I buy a car now, it will be USED.

    New, is out of the question at this apparent time...so no Altima...and NO Accord for me.
  • jumpnjoejumpnjoe Posts: 34
    We all feel for you and know how much you have put into this. Hope it works out for you. For what its worth, I didn't own a new car until last week and I'm 34. My old Subaru's, Coralla's and Saturn always got me where I needed to go for 18 years, just not always in as much style or as fast as I would have liked. Many friends joked about "Joe's Lexus'" as they made fun of my wheels. They never turned down a ride though. It just makes my new car all the sweeter now that I know what the alternative is. On a college campus, a new car would be out of place anyway. Better to get the news before you were on the hook for $20,000. I hope your news wasn't tragic.

    Joe
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I am very sorry to hear that you will be unable to purchase the New Altima that you have so desired. But dont be discouraged, there are plenty of very good used vehicles out there. A good 1999-2000 Accord EX 4, for example, can probably be had for half of what the Altima would have cost.

    No worries my friend. There are far more important things in life than vehicles. I am thankful every day that I can enjoy the privelege of ranting and raving about automobiles, but cars are just transportation when all is said and done.

    ~alpha
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I have a rental for the week my wife's LL Bean Subaru Outback is in the shop and it is very nice - a 2005 Nissan Altima with 14 miles on it!

    I took it out for 5 more miles and it is really sweet -- this is a basic SL model with 175 hp 4 cy and auto. Pie plate wheels and basic interior. For under $20k. Resale I am sure would be worse than a Honda with so many in rental fleets but still.

    It could really handle and had no problem getting out of its own way. Very flat in corners. I was impressed!

    My Accord (2003 I4 EX-L MT) is softer and a little more rolly polly in corners. The Accord is much quieter and has a better interior. To be fair, an EX-Leather is more equivalent to an ALitma with SE Leather.

    The back seat on the Accord is larger. The Nissan looks larger but the Accord actually has the bigger interior.

    However, this Alitima has more pull than the Subie H6 3.0, I would say. Just no AWD or wagon for hauling. I was impressed. A nice car and the interior was better looking than the 04.
  • miasimonmiasimon Posts: 5
    Can anyone tell me what the 2002-2003 2.5 4 cyclinder is getting in the real world. I want real world numbers. Also would be interested in what difference the a/c makes. My first tank was 22 which seems low but that is with a/c and temps above 90
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    The rear seat in the Accord may feel larger, but if you look at the cubic footage of the interiors, the Altima trumps both the Accord and Camry.

    miasimon- I average about 26 MPG with the 2.5L auto in my Sentra, which tips the scales about 400 lbs lighter than a 4 cylinder Altima. I dont know if that helps, but it should give you perspective.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,589
    SQ footage can be misleading, since it includes height. If your head doesn't hit the ceiling, more headroom isn't really valuable. My kids don't even stick up above the seat backs.

    Now, width you notice (especially with 3 across).

    The seat design is also important. Nice upright seats give more usable room (especially leg room), than low riding seats that make you stretch your legs out more.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Posts: 1,467
    I was FINALLY able to get an Altima.

    Tonight I am driving an 05 Nissan Altima 2.5S with Convenience Plus Pkg., Splash guards and sunroof visor.

    I got a price of $500 over invoice...and I am happy. We go in tomorrow afternoon to finalizes all finanacing.

    The car is an automatic unfortunately, but hey, I AM HAPPY.

    The Altima has a ROOMY back seat, the Accord didn't feel roomier IMO. The Camry is roomier to me than the Accord.

    As a matter of fact, the Accord and the Mazda6 seem about the same size, while the Camry and Altima seem slightly larger.
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