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Maserati Quattroporte 2005+

merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
Anyone considering this car? I received a special invite to see it up close and personal at the Chicago Auto Show. Can't wait! Not sure why they picked me, as I'm not even close to being a buyer, but there the invite was.

I did get to see it from behind a railing in Detroit. I find this car to be very different and a much needed breath of fresh air in the S-Class/7/A8/LS/XJ segment. The interior combinations are nothing short of stunning. You can specify everything from steering wheel color to upper dashboard, to what type of wood you'd like. Many more combinations than with it's mass produced competitors.

Any prospective buyers on the board? Has anyone else had a private showing of the car yet?

M
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  • bretaabretaa Posts: 130
    I'm not nearly close to buying a vehicle of this cost, but I agree with you. I love the new Quattroporte and always had a fondness for the old ones as well. The upcoming model is certainly unique and has real presence. It won't be confused with anything else on the road. Has anyone actually seen a media test drive of this car yet?

    -Bret
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    No full road tests yet. CAR magazine did have a article on it, I think in the Jan issue.

    M
  • http://www.forbes.com/vehicles/2004/02/09/cx_dl_0209feat.html

    There are other links too. Look for them on the web. There are two fishy things Maserati is cloaking

    1) They are not giving the rear legroom space figures. In the picture look at how cleverly they have pushed the front seats all the way to the front to show rear legroom.

    2) Second, their transmission is not as smooth in the automatic mode which is a big drawback in Sedans which are daily driver cars.
  • bretaabretaa Posts: 130
    In a word: WOW... I have a new unattainable dream car...

    - Bret
  • revdrluvrevdrluv Posts: 417
    Actually the legroom in the rear is supposed to be excellent. I've heard that a 6 footer can have plenty of space, even when the seat is all the way pushed back.

    It's the headroom back there (because of that swooping roofline) that's supposed to make it a little cozy.

    If I was in the market for an super-luxo-barge, I'd go for this one!
  • ak103ak103 Posts: 11
    The Quattroporte does indeed look great, but while the interior materials appear to be very nice the overall design already looks a tad dated.

    I also think only offering the Sequential transmission is a mistake (for the U.S. anyway). Maserati should at least make a conventional 6spd auto a no cost alternative.

    If the car comes in at $90k, that would be a nice deal. But I'm hearing rumors of it being in the $120k neighborhood, yikes.

    Cool car, but I'll keep my E46 M3 and STI for now.
  • vk00vk00 Posts: 23
    I was at New York presentation of Quattroporte and had a chance to sit in the car. No problems in the rear seat. It is comparable to BMW 745. Remember, Quattroporte has the feature that the rear seat can move forward about 4 inches so that the back is more reclined. I first put the front seat in a position I would be confortable to drive and then went to the back seat and moved the it all the way forward. I am 6 feet hight and had no problems whatsoever. A great car. The design from the close range is as stunning as it is seen on the photos. Let us wait for the prices. The representative at the presentation said that they expect somewhere in the 90's.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Anyone signed up for one of these yet?

    M
  • klas07klas07 Posts: 3
    they call it a compact sedan, but it's really a full size.

    If anyone has driven one: Is the engine and drivetrain comfortable enough for everyday use?
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  • are they anyone (I highly doubt it) out there that are actual owners of the 2004/2005 Quattroporte? Is it a solid, replacement for a Mercedes S-Class or BMW 7-Series?

     

    My main concern with the Quattroporte is the reliability (Maserati being a small company with only one other production vehicle....)
  • vk00vk00 Posts: 23
    Does anyone know how will the intergrated phone work in Quattroporte? I heard that it is not removable, and that one will have to order a separate line for this phone (unless of course you are willing to swap SIM cards between your car and you regular cell phone each time you get in and out of the car).

    Any info?
  • I just bought (actually its my dad's) the new 2005 Quattroporte and can answer some of your guys questions and I'll be happy to answer any other questions too.

    The automatic portion of the Duoselect works extremely well and I can not feel almost any difference at all than a regular automatic. The cars drives great and if you feel like accelerating quickly your head will be pinned to the headrest a little which is a fun sensation since I have never really been in any other fast cars before. I don't really want to discuss the price which is the only reason I didn't want my dad to get this but it is in the 110-130k region. In the manual it says a max speed of 172 can be obtained by the tires. But the media-telenav has the car's speed set at a max of 155 (it can be set lower but 155 is its max). In addition it has some very nifty functions such as the parking beeping when getting close to something and a little warning sound if you are going above the speed limit(both can be toggled on/off).

    If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and ill do my best to answer but I am definately not a car expert.
  • khalafkhalaf Posts: 2
    i got my OP two weeks ago, and the gear is not like an auto, you have to ease the acceleration to make it smooth,i have no problems with it cause i use to own an alfa 147 salespeed.i actually enjoy it being that way.but if you want an auto they are working on it(which proves it is not like an auto)and they are also working on fitting the 612's engine which is going well,or so i hear........ :-)
  • khalafkhalaf Posts: 2
    i got my OP two weeks ago, and the gear is not like an auto, you have to ease the acceleration to make it smooth,i have no problems with it cause i use to own an alfa 147 salespeed.i actually enjoy it being that way.but if you want an auto they are working on it(which proves it is not like an auto)and they are also working on fitting the 612's engine which is going well,or so i hear........ :-)
  • opecopec Posts: 1
    I've got the 400bhp QP for delivery in June/July of this year. Where did you hear this?
  • I have one. Have 11K miles on it now. Only issue was the cd/navigation player went bad but dealer made replacement painless. I think the gear box is great; no problem for me at all but it is not as seamless as an automatic.

    As far as a replacement for Mercedes S class or BMW 7: I've never had an S class but I had two 7 Series BMW's, put 250,000 miles total on the two of them and liked them a lot. The Q is much more of a driver's car, much more aggressive and much more of an "adventure" to own and drive. It feels smaller than it is and gives a lot more road feedback and sound feedback than the BMW.

    I'd be happy to share whatever I can with prospective buyers.

    Ken
  • vk00vk00 Posts: 23
    I have 2K miles on mine so far. The car is awesome, and I enjoy every minute in it.
    The gearbox is unlike anything I had before: I drive it almost always in the manual mode, you need to release the gas pedal slightly, and it switches very smoothly. When in auto mode, you definitely feel the shifts (especially if you press the gas pedal hard), but it does not bother at all. On the contrary, you better feel the car. After all, it is
    definitely a driver's car, as many have noted here already.

    I have a question to current owners. When the outside temperature is in the 50's and
    it is sunny, my climate control seems to be somewhat confused. It becomes too hot
    in the car, and when I get in a shadow (or a tunnel), it becomes too cold. Anyone
    seen this feature? May be I should simply speak with a dealer.
  • Hey VK00,
    I agree with you on the gear box and love my Q too.
    I have noticed the same problems with the temperature control. I was going to talk to the dealer about it too. Sometimes it works okay, but bright sun or having the sun roof open in chilly weather does seem to confuse it.
    Let me know what you learn and I'll do the same.
    Ken
  • vk00vk00 Posts: 23
    Hi Ken,
    I called the dealer and they will look at the car next week. Surpisingly, they received another complain today about the same problem and scheduled that car for inspection. They told that have never heard about it before -- most likely because it does not happen when it is cold outside -- but they will investigate. I'll keep you posted.
    Vadim
  • kackerkacker Posts: 9
    I have just agreed to buy a QP and I'm getting all the paperwork on Monday to sign. I have test driven the car once and was not impressed with the auto mode. The manual was much better and toward the end of the drive the manual felt quite comfortable. Do the passengers in your cars feel any jerks when you change gears? Also what do you reckon this car will loose if it is driven 12-15K miles every year. I'm convinced that up to that 50000 warranty mark , its all OK, but what happens after that if one were to hold on to it long term. Imagine Ferrari maintenance after the car hits 50K. Love the car and yet quite concerned if this is a smart move. The leasing company (chase) puts its residual value at $35,000 after 4 years and 15K miles/yr. Although I am buying mine, thats still quite a ridiculous hit if it comes true. Any opinions?
  • kaker,
    Congratulations on ordering your new Q!.

    The car is not as "limo-like" for your passengers as M-B, Jag, BMW or Audi. The luxury is certainly there but the "performance-orientation" is for the driver more than the passenger. However, you will learn to drive it more smoothly after some miles and I think it is very comfortable and luxurious for passengers; and most seem pretty thrilled and overwhelmed by the car.

    Regarding resale value; I have no idea. I didn't buy mine with any expectation except having an adventure. I plan to put a quick 50K miles on it and sell it, take whatever hit might be involved and start over. First year car, unknown reliability, unknown resale value, terrible gas mileage, etc; just nothing practical about this thing. Repairs will be expensive after warranty, that's for sure. I had a failed cd player replaced under warranty but the part would have been $11,700, according to the dealer!)

    But I enjoy this car much more than any BMW or M-B I've owned. Can't wait for any excuse to take a road trip.

    Ken
  • kackerkacker Posts: 9
    Hey Ken,
    Thanks for your advise.
    What was your service charge on it? I was told by the dealer that they charge approximately $500 for every service while under warranty and everything else is covered under warranty. This is cheaper than maintaining my 911.
    Did you find that to be the case?
    Kacker
  • The 6K service was $637.00, which is really just an oil change and computer print out.

    The 18K and other major services are much more; $2000 or so for the the 18K service I think.
  • kackerkacker Posts: 9
    Thanks for your input Ken. Much obliged.
    Have a great week ahead!
  • vk00vk00 Posts: 23
    Hi Kacker,
    My previous car was Jaguar S-type with manual transmission (It took me a while to find one, but I hate automatic). I have asked my passengers in Quattroporte how they feel the gear shifts. The consensus was that it is much smoother compared with manual Jag (with a clutch you have to release the gas pedal completely). After few days of practice in QP, the shifting is actually smoother in manual mode than in automatic.

    As to resale value, I agree that the Chase's terms are ridiculous. I planed to lease this car originally, but I ended up buying it. And my motivation towards this car coincides 100% with what Ken wrote in his posting (#24). This car is so much fun to drive that it simply outweighs all practical issues.

    Vadim
  • kackerkacker Posts: 9
    Hi Vadim,
    Well, I finally made up my mind today. I'm gong to go ahead and buy the QP.
    Its time to put aside all the apprehensions and enjoy this beauty.
    I expect to loose anywhere from 15-25,000 per year. We'll see what happens.
    I went bak to the dealer and just rode in it instead of driving it. Did not find any problem at all and decided to go for it.
    Thanks for all your help.
    Hope to catch you guys on the road.
    Kacker
  • vk00vk00 Posts: 23
    Hi Hacker,
    Congratulations on your decision! How is the waiting list? Is it long now?
    Vadim
  • kackerkacker Posts: 9
    Its the wierdest thing. I found a used one from a Bentley dealer with 135 miles on it for $5,000 under invoice and that invoice was from the pre price increase of $6,000 so I ended up saving $11,000. The Maserati dealer with the quickest turn around for a custom one was August, so 4 months.
    Kacker
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