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Toyota Tacoma 2005+

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  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 487
    but I think the V6 will be plenty powerful. My guess is that the Tacoma crew cab should weigh several hundred pounds less than a 4 Runner, so it should have ample power.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    I would prefer the diesel to be offered as I prefer power AND efficiency.
    The 1KZ-TE 3.0L turbo diesel offers more power than the gasoline 3.4L and is 20% more fuel efficient.
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 487
    I'd love the diesel also, but most manufacturers are hesitant to bring the new product over until they are sure that they will be able to meet the new 2007 emissions regs. I know more diesels are starting to creep in from VW, Mercedes and the Jeep Liberty, but they all might be going away again in two years. Its tough to recoup your investment in two years.
  • The liter is about right but the the engine is from a new family. The engine is a "t" engine. They are using the 4.0 along with this "t" engine for the 4cylinder.
  • spleckspleck Posts: 114
    Here's some info I've gathered elsewhere:

    Extra Cab or Double Cab only (if Reg cab is available, it will probably only be for non Pre-Runner/4WD models, ie BASE)
    2.7L 4 cyl (2WD only) or 4.0L V6 engines
    4-speed and 5-speed electronic auto trannies (I assume 4spd = 4 cyl, 5-speed = 6 cyl)
    5-speed (no info on which configs its available) and 6-speed (X-Runner only problaby) manual trannies.
    Truck moves to midsize from compact, possible loss of ground clearance (2 inches?). Gas mileage should be similar to current models (est 20 mpg for 4.0L 2WD on interstate - reference 4Runner)
  • Thanks for info.

    Do you think the X-Runner with super charger will be available in Automatic or 6 speed only?
  • toycashtoycash Posts: 139
    The Regular Cab will still be available as 2wd, 4wd and PreRunner. There will still be 4wd 4-cyl, I don't know what size. All 4-cyl manual transmissions are 5-spd, all 6-cyl are 6-spd.
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    I think that 15% of all 2005 tacoma trucks will be built in Mexico. Do you think fit and finish will be worse than in 2004 tacomas ?
  • mrjjgittesmrjjgittes Posts: 156
    Wow, I just saw the pics of that 2005 Tacoma in the snow. I have been in the market for a pickup, and now I am going to have to wait for these to come out. The current Tacoma is just a bit to small and narrow for me. The four door tundra is a bit too big, as are the domestics. (I wish they would have just ate up a little bed space and kept the same dimensions as the extended cab tundra.) And the current dakota just doesn't do it for me. I guess I'll also wait and look at the 2005 dakota too. Anyway, this new tacoma may be just right. Now, let's hope they price it well, and by xmas they may have a 4 door 4x4 one sold to me.
  • Here is some perf numbers from Toyota
    for the 2.7 liter 163hp with 183lb.ft
    The 4.0 is 245-282lbft

    The 2.7ltr mileage goes from 22/25(from the 2.4)
    to 24/35 in the 2.7!!!!
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,035
    I started pricing the Tacoma PU. I thought I was back in the 1960s. Everything is an option. I hate that. Have packages available with all the good stuff and don't put us through the old line of are you going to be dirving in the Rain? Then you will need windshield wipers. Their pricing system is a joke.
  • cjsdadcjsdad Posts: 1
    Where can I see this picture of the 2005 Tacoma in the snow? The only thing I've seen is the X-Runner, some disguised pics of one in traffic, or some pics of what's supposed to be a 4WD club cab that looks like a photoshop special.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 29,035
    That is a lot better looking than the XRunner. Looks like they used a Chevy designer for the tail lights.
  • I hate the way this new Tacoma looks. I guess I'll be searching for a 03 or 04 model now. Disappointing.
  • jacoddyjacoddy Posts: 8
    Here is the new Tacoma we all are waiting for.

     image

    It looks bigger, they said 4.5 inches wide 4 inches longer and 4 inches taller, from what I see on the pictures extra cab open doors, 18 inch wheels
    I heard it has a 4.0 v6 engine with 6 speed trans.

    I think this is going to be my truck for Christmas.
  • jacoddyjacoddy Posts: 8
    Here is the new Tacoma we all are waiting for.

     image

    It looks bigger, they said 4.5 inches wide 4 inches longer and 4 inches taller, from what I see on the pictures extra cab open doors, 18 inch wheels
    I heard it has a 4.0 v6 engine with 6 speed trans.
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    Looks cool! I like it, it looks like a two door 4runner because they share almost the same front grille and headlights.
  • mrjjgittesmrjjgittes Posts: 156
    sure that's not a photoshop production?
  • lexi4lifelexi4life Posts: 181
    When does it arrive in showrooms?
  • The new 2005 doesn't hit showrooms until late September/early October... no MSRP available yet either.
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 487
    I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think that is one good looking truck, and I for one am looking forward to seeing them in real life.

    I've got a Mazda B4000 now (which is on an ancient platform), and want something slightly bigger and newer. IMHO, the new Tacoma is much better looking than the new 2005 Frontier and better looking than the new 2005 Dakota. The GM twins (Canyon / Colorado) don't look bad, but the cheap interiors and weak-kneed 5 cyl. engines really put me off.

    One question - is the new wider design going to keep this baby from going up on two wheels? I hope so. In any case, just to be safe my next 4wd truck will definitely have stability control and side curtain airbags, both of which I understand the Tacoma will offer.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,679
    I see the new Tacoma, Frontier, and Dakota are all going to be considerably wider than the out-going models. I wonder if any of these new vehicles will be able to handle a sheet of plywood flat on the floor between the rear wheelhouses?

    Bob
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 487
    The Tacoma and 4 Runner look so similar, does anyone know if they are on a similar platform?

    Which brings up two other issues. At first, I figured the 4.0 V6 would have plenty of power and that a V8 option was not really needed. But now that I have heard the 4.7 will be bumped up from 235 hp to 282 hp, a V8 sounds more interesting. If the Tacoma and 4Runner are related, it seems dropping the new V8 would be simple. Has anyone heard about any such plans? Maybe Toyota is worried a larger Tacoma with the V8 would hurt the Tundra. Might they put a V8 in the Tacoma after they come out with a new larger Tundra?

    Also, the 4 Runner comes with an optional AWD system. Is the Tacoma planned for this, or will it just be part time 4wd? I am liking this new Tacoma, but a V8 Tacoma with full time capability for 4wd would be awesome.
  • I saw the new 05 Double Cab pics, it looks awesome (and ready for delivery soon I hope). The other good news is the new V6 (and V8 for that matter) in the 05 Tundra. The hp numbers are very respectable, but what blew me away was the incredible fuel mileage increase. The new V6 in the Tundra was 18-19 city/25 highway. Since the Tundra is bigger and heavier can expect at least that or better in the Tacoma. After all the years of increase car technology, safety, whatever, FINALLY a car manufacturer did something about the mileage in a truck...Its got Direct injection and VVT usually seen in new 4 bangers. Maybe this was the reason for all the hush-hush. While Dodge and Nissan fight over who will have the biggest engine, Toyota has created a motor with such an increase in efficency that the others are probably scrambling how to counter. Now if Toyota would please have the 6 spd manual in the 4x4 double cab I'd almost sure of my next vehicle purchase....
  • mh3mh3 Posts: 11
    I have reliable info from TMS that there will be a 6-speed manual available for 4WD doublecabs.

    I will get a chance to drive the new Tacomas mid-October (just before/during the launch), I'll try to update then.
  • I am sick of and tired of searching the web for the latest innuendo regarding the 2005 Tacoma ... The vague language that Toyota Mis-Marketing uses is driving me up the wall. Launch Date - It is not a freaking ship, it is a truck, the launch date was 4-2-2004 in Chicago.
    Release Date - Toyota for some reason cannot even provide of an estimate of when they will release more information regarding a this product's pricing, availability or options.
    Order Date - I know it is dangerous to assume anything but does it not seem logical and reasonable that before the items are delivered to retail stores that a MANUFACTER would know the MSRP, color options, etc? What follows is a recreation of my contact with via the "Official" Toyota Website:

    Begin Umptenth email ------
    The latter part of this email contains a query and response thread from April 6-7,2005 included for your enjoyment. Seems we are getting closer to the "launch date" Is it possible Toyota Customer Service (TCS)has any new information ...

    1. Does anyone at Toyota Customer Service (TCS) know what the "launch date" is for the 2005 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner? (From the Chicago Auto show press release Don Esmond indicates the X-Runner will be at the dealerships in August ... not quite fall, more like late summer ... and from Toyota's own web site "the all-new next-generation Tacoma arrives in showrooms this summer" this indicates someone in marketing has a date sometime during the summer months in mind ... If TCS does not have any more information than what can be found in the press releases, can TCS please try and contact someone that may have knowledge of any updated information? Can TCS determine if it is going to be released at the begining of August or at end of August?

    2. Will pricing information, color selection, etcetera for the 2005 Tacoma X-Runner be available before the "launch date"? Assuming a "Yes" answer to the previous question; How much before the "launch date" will this information be released? a week? a month?, six weeks? Again a suitable answer is as specific as practical.

    Sincerely,
    Prospective Customer
    Any Place USA

    Response (CSR1) 04/07/2004 06:53 AM
    Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
    We apologize that you feel our response was not adequate.
    As previously stated, we do not currently have any information regarding the 2005 Tacoma available at this time other than the information listed on our website. Information on the vehicle will be available closer to the launch date. Typically the new models arrive in the fall.
    Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters under file #XXXXXXX. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us.
    Toyota Customer Experience

    Customer (Prospective Customer) 04/06/2004 12:06 PM
    TCS wrote >> Information on the 2005 Tacoma will be available closer to the launch date. Typically the new models arrive in the fall.

    How could Toyota Customer Service (TCS) consider this an answer? I would appreciate straight forward answers to my questions. As far as I am concerned every week that goes by is closer to the "launch date". When does TCS expect to begin answering questions about their upcoming products, when the products are released? If TCS cannot provide answers to my questions please say so and begin the process to find the answers.

    1. What is the "launch date"? (From the Chicago Auto show press release Don Esmond indicates the X-Runner will be at the dealerships in August ... not quite fall, more like late summer ... and from Toyota's own web site "the all-new next-generation Tacoma arrives in showrooms this summer" this indicates someone in marketing has a date sometime during the summer months in mind ... please try and narrow the answer down to a two week period (i.e. 2nd or 3rd week of June)

    2. Will pricing information, color selection, etcetera for the 2005 Tacoma X-Runner be available before the "launch date"? If so how much before the "launch date" a week? a month, six weeks? Again a suitable answer is as specific as practical.

    I am well aware of the FAQ and model updates, I am already enrolled.

    Sincerely,

    Prospective Customer

    Response (CSR1) 04/06/2004 10:36 AM
    Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.
    We appreciate your interest in the Tacoma X-Runner.
    Information on the 2005 Tacoma will be available closer to the launch date. Typically the new models arrive in the fall. To receive information as it becomes available, please subscribe to our Current and Future Models FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions).
    We are committed to manufacturing high quality vehicles that exemplify innovative design, styling, dependability and durability. In an effort to maintain the quality that is evident in our previous vehicle models, we continue to pay close attention to the detail in our future models.
    Again, thank you for your interest!
    Your email has been documented ...
    Toyota Customer Experience

    Customer (Prospective Customer) 04/05/2004 12:19 PM
    When is the 2005 Tacoma X-Runner pricing, color selection, etcetera slated for release? Is there a date that I will be able to order the vehicle from my dealer in advance of the general availability in August?

    Thanks,

    Prospective Customer
    End Umptenth email ------

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    Response (CSR2) 06/17/2004 10:00 AM
    Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.

    We appreciate your interest in the all-new 2005 Tacoma X-Runner.

    We apologize; we have not announced a "specific" launch date. Therefore, pricing information and other specifications have not been released just yet.

    In the meantime, you can see some general information by clicking on the following links to press releases:

    2005 Tacoma X-Runner Preliminary Specifications
    Toyota Unveils All-New 2005 Next-Generation Tacoma Pickup Truck At 2004 Chicago Auto Show

    You can also click on the following link to sign up to receive updates:

    http://www.toyota.com/toyota/vehicles/future/xrunner/updates.jsp

    Thanks again for your inquiry and we sincerely appreciate your interest.

    Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters under file #XXXXXXXXX. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us.

    Toyota Customer Experience
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    Begin PO'd Prospective Customer email ------
    Customer (PO'd Prospective Customer) 06/17/2004 03:16 PM
    FYI "Q" means question "A" means answer

    >> Q1. Does anyone at Toyota Customer Service (TCS) know what the "launch date" is for the 2005 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner?

    >> A1. No

    >> Q1.a. If TCS does not have any more information than what can be found in the press releases, can TCS please try and contact someone that may have knowledge of any updated information?

    c
  • >> A1.a "We apologize ..."

    I assume this means TCS is unwilling or unable to escalate or communicate my request to any other group or division within Toyota to obtain an answer ...

    >> Q1.b. Can TCS determine if it is going to be released at the begining of August or at end of August?

    >> A1.a. "... we have not announced a "specific" launch date ..."

    I suppose this means TCS does not know the "specific" launch date for this vehicle and continues to be unwilling or unable to escalate or communicate my request to any other group or division within Toyota to obtain an answer ...

    >> Q2.a. Will pricing information, color selection, etcetera for the 2005 Tacoma X-Runner be available before the "launch date"?

    >> A2.a "... pricing information and other specifications have not been released just yet"

    So until Toyota has a "specific" launch date for the vehicle the pricing is released when???

    >> Q2.b. How much before the "launch date" will this information be released? a week? a month?, six weeks?

    >> A2.a There is no discernable answer to this question in the TCS response

    To paraphrase
    a. The launch date is nebulous
    b. Pricing may or may not be released before the launch date ... I do not know and TCS does not seem to know or much care how to answer that question

    I would like to place an order for this vehicle. I would like to know how much something is going to cost before I purchase or in this case place an order. It seems logical and reasonable that before the items are delivered to retail stores that a manufacturer would know the MSRP.
    End PO'd Prospective Customer email ------

    Begin PO'd Prospective Customer response
    Response (CSR3) 06/28/2004 09:28 AM
    Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.

    We apologize that we are unable to provide you with the information you are seeking.

    Toyota has not announced the launch date and pricing information for the 2005 Tacoma. We are sorry that we are unable to provide you with this information ahead of any public announcement. When Toyota finalizes this information and decides to release it to the general public, they will post the information on our web site and issue a press release.

    You may also wish to visit the Current and Future Models Frequently Asked Question (FAQ), where you can request to be updated as information becomes available on the 2005 models.

    We appreciate your feedback - Somehow this whole exercise was a bit like being caught in feedback loop - RC. Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters under file #XXXXXXX. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us via email or by calling 800-331-4331. We are available from 6 AM to 6 PM, Pacific Time, Monday through Friday.

    Toyota Customer Experience
    Begin PO'd Prospective Customer end ----
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,896
    I understand that you are angry because you didn't get what you wanted; however, Toyota has traditionally been tight-lipped about upcoming models. Quite often, these decisions not to release information are business decisions, and based on keeping a competitive advantage. By not releasing details to you, they are also not releasing design, availability, or pricing details to GMC, Nissan, Dodge, etc. This is not an unusual practice for businesses, and has always been the case with Toyota (and Honda).

    While we would all love to have more information, I don't think you'll find overwhelming sympathy from other members here - especially as your notes to Toyota seem to have taken on an increasingly demanding tone. Did you anticipate that, by e-mailing them, they would release information solely to you that was not released to the general public? Were you anticipating that they would change their marketing strategy because you were ready to place an order? It is not at all clear what you were trying to accomplish by asking for proprietary information, but if the dealers here don't know it yet, then it's likely not been released outside of a very small circle.

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