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Don't stress about it - just make sure you keep checking your carpets after you take delivery on the new truck! :-)
As for the bolts. I only have 4 on each side of mine. I have a doublecab shortbed. If you have a longbed or an access cab, you may have 5 bolts. Shoot me an email and I can send you a pic of it if you like.
As for the cover, I got the LiteRider because it is essentially the same as the regular Access cover. The regular one has a thumb dial tension adjuster and the LiteRider doesn't. But the dial on the LiteRider is just as easy to operate. I can shoot you a pic of the too if you want. The LiteRider says it has a smaller velcro edge, but I'm anal and measured it and it's the same. So for over $100 more all you are paying for is a different tensioner on the Access. Not worth it IMO. In fact the vinyl cover only says "Access Roll-up Cover" doesn't even say Literider (just the box and instructions do). Email is TacomaOffRoadGrl@msn. com if you need pics.
1900 miles--Built 01/05
Was rainy here yesterday, drove for at least an hour in rain, and checked under the floor mat when I got home. Not a drop of water. Also checked this morning, and still nothing.
I also agree with the issue of only talking about problems. I'm sure this message board would have way more than 2000 messages (I'd say at least 500 of those were before the truck was even available), if there were widespread problems.
I've noticed that when I back out of my garage in the morning I hear my brakes squealing a bit. Doesn't squeal moving forward. Don't think there's any build-up/rust on my rotors. Anyone else have this other than swbro and me?
i have v6 manual and no problems w/ the brakes at stop lights.
At the risk of being banned from further discussion,I'm beginning to second guess my choice of the Tacoma over the Frontier.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=104731
I am now second guessing the purchase of an 05 taco.
Been researching the Frontier as well and the worst problem reported so far (that I've read) is a plastic intake manifold rattle that Nissan supposedly has already begun fixing on new productions.
What, are you some kind of patriot? You're a swedish car fan frequenting a japanese truck forum, and complaining about a car built in Mexico? I don't get it. Good luck finding an "American" truck that's not built in Mexico. Wait, maybe that's why they suck ...oh... now I get it... **lights go on**
Does anyone have a link to this Toyota Tijuana info?
PS. My '05 Tacoma is flawless. No Problemos.
I'm glad that my original post of 'Wait til 06' has sparked some debate. Someone posted a good comment stating that these forums tend to be for gripes - good point. Although I can't help linking the low production numbers/supply problem with the question 'Is Toyota keeping the first production year numbers low in order to work out the bugs and minimize possible consumer backlash?' It would make good business sense. And a few posts have indicated that Toyota isn't as quality oriented as they once were (although I never beleive anything from a JD Powers report).
I drove my 4Runner for 15 years and I still think buying another Toyota truck is the smartest thing to do, but I'll wait a bit (come to think of it, I have to wait anyway given the supply problems ;-)
Cheers all,
Ian C
(A Canadian waiting for a Japanese truck from the States assembled by Mexicans. Go NAFTA!)
I'm sceptical though...
For those who are shopping and comparing, here's what a Tacoma owner thinks of the Frontier:
I drove a 6 cylinder 4x4, extended cab.
- The Frontier looks nice on the outside. Glad they got rid of those fake bolts on the wheel-well covers--I like how they eliminated the wheel-well covers altogether.
- I don't think it looks as refined on the inside, but it is a TRUCK after all, so some folks won't mind. It does have a LOT of seams in the dashboard, and those are gonna start squeaking big time after a few miles. I also hated the dumb-looking dimples on the dash above the instrument cluster. The Xterra also has these and they look dumb on it too. The interior plastic seems cheap, but that could be said of a lot of cars today.
- The heater works well, and air flow is not as noisy as on the Taco. The control knobs are big, (ugly) and easy to use. As one would expect, there is no "in between" on the ventilation controls--you can have heat from the floor, or a combo of floor/defrost but not in between.
(Have you fellow Taco owners noticed that you can adjust the controls part-way between two settings? Neat!)
- Outward visibility is not as good on the Frontier. I think the slope of the front windshield has something to do with this.
- Steering was not as responsive, and had a heavier feel to it. I don't think I can comment on the ride, because I don't recall whether this Frontier had a special off-road package.
- Engine: Nissan builds great six cly. engines. This one is smooth, quiet, and has lots of power.
This should be enough to give you an idea of what I think. Overall, I don't think you should be unhappy with either vehicle, as long as you compare, and find the one that meets your requirements. (AND you get one that does not have serious QC issues.)
I'm satisfied with our Taco purchase. It seems more fun to drive than the Frontier.
Our beloved 2005 Tacoma is not fully rated as it is new, but they still rate it above average as to reliability. They say the 2005 Tacoma is built on a 4Runner platform and they rate the 2005 4Runner as a recommended buy.
On cold morning (here in Colorado) I heat the cab up and, then turn the fan control to "off"
But I still feel cold, outside air blowing in from the vent. (Not a lot, but enough to feel it...especially when it's cold outside.) Adjusting the temp control to hot/cold has no effect on the temp of this air coming in.
Is this normal or should I have my service department look for a hole somewhere in the vents?
Boo
Air coming in from the vent is normal when the "fresh" or "outside" air switch is selected as such. Air is forced from the inlet into the cab, even though the fan is off. However, I would think that the temperature control would have an effect on this.
There is the possibility, that the Tacoma turns the heat part off, if the fan switch is in the off position. Some of you might think, how is this possible. Well, when I took out my heating controls to install my iPod2Car interface, you'll notice that the temperature control on this truck is now electronic, even though it looks like the classic cable dial, that is connected to a cable which goes to the valve that lets engine coolant into the heater coil, it's not. Notice how easy it is to turn. So, that being said, it may be programmed to close that valve if the fan switch is in the off position...
I'm wondering if anyone has physically verified this, as it still feels like a cable driven throttle control, but I have noticed something interesting.
If you have an automatic, it seems as though the throttle lets up slightly (not the actual petal, just the engine RPM) just before a shift, to help in making the shift smoother. I've tried to notice this on several occasions, and it seems to do this no matter what the acceleration.
Anyone else notice this? It's a pretty cool concept if that is what is happening.
I am getting 19-20 mpg on 91 octane and do not hear engine ticking anymore (after 2500 miles).
As far as the leaking goes, it has not rained here since I bought the truck, so will have to wait for that experience. No problem from carwashes.
Compared to the Rangers I have been driving the past 10 years, this truck is like a Lexus.
I've read a bunch of posts on paint chipping for some colors. Does anyone know if the bright red has chipping problems.
Thanks,
Chad
I've been watching the threads on paint chips problems on a number of boards and it seems to be, mostly, the blue paint.
I have the Silver and have yet to see one person with the Silver paint complaint of chipping problems.
Boo
I own a 2005 tacoma double cab 4x4 with the off road and tow package in silver and love it...mostly.
I have all the usual issues (no leaks,yet) but do have the clunking (mostly when cold) and the ticking engine. I also have had an issue with the rear locking diff. not locking (fixed now), but I have one real annoyance...a clicking noise coming from the front drivers side door area... possibly the B-pillar. It makes the annoying sound only on little tiny imperfections in the road (pretty much constantly) but does not do it on big bumps. It sounds like a washer that is rattling between a bolt and a nut that is not tight. I took it to the dealer and they at first did not hear it, but with me driving and the tech listening they heard it (so he said). I ended taking off the door panel myself and driving and yes it was still there... The door panel was not the culprit... I siliconed all the door seals and checked all the screws, bolts and anything else that could be tightened... and it is still there...damn it!
Just curious to know if anyone else has a similar problem and what they did , if anything, to fix it.
I listened for it, closer, and noticed it was only on the back, rear side.
I lifted up the jump seat and discovered I had put my plastic window-ice scraper in there so took it out and I haven't heard that noise since. (The container is just a piece of plastic and it's hollow so I guess can make quite a commotion when something is in it....I'm going to line mine with carpet.)
Boo
The interest rate is 4.3% now.
They are manufactured in Fremont.
And the '06 will have an increase in cost.
But waiting isn't bad.
B
Don't hold your breath. I think we are all in for a lesson.
B
B
Do you have your defroster on when this happens?
B
I also had an electrical problem that caused the left turn signal to be inoperatable at various times. It finally quit and then other things wouldnt work:
Shift lock engaged and I couldnt shift out of park unless I used the manual overide:
A/C wouldnt work to defrost:
Air flow was stuck to the floor position:
Key reminder chime when keys in ingition and door open didnt work. I had it towed to the dealer and they kept it a week and found a short (bent pin) in a connector at fuse box. No electrical problems since.
As far as water leaks go mine had been leak free. I know water leaks can happen easy if the sealing isnt done properly. I have worked in that area of production.
I have squeaky wipers, even if the blade isnt touching the windshield. Any one else have this?
I didnt like the reduced visibilty the rear head rests caused, so I too then to a local upholstry shop and had them cut down to 3 inches tall so the tops of them are about even with the rear of the bed when looking thru the rear view mirror.
I luv my Tacoma even with some minor problems!
If you check out pages 27 & 28 of this board you'll find my posts #528, 537, and 549 where I was bellyaching about the engine tick. I have the same truck. DBL Cab LB TRD V6 built 9/8/04.
The ticking has mellowed at 4600 miles but it's still evident if I mash the pedal and listen for it. Oh well. I'm over it. The truck is awesome and I can't hear it with the radio or heater on so I don't care much now. I did notice how squeaky the wipers were the night I drove it home as it was raining. However, I never did post that complaint as I reckoned that anyone that might read it on this board might conclude that I was just a nut and disregard my other complaints! Anyway, you're not alone. You're right. They're squeaky.
I have no other problems so far.
Good luck.