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Mercedes-Benz: Future Models

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  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    is it available in the US?

    John
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I doubt it since they're only building like 10-15 units a month and the asking price would be like 100K here in the U.S. That is very pricey for a SLK, even a hardcore track version.

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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Only a 3.8 percent increase vs. July 2005. Overall the Germans took a beating this month, with only MB and VW posting gains.

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  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    at least they treaded water...

    The US big 3 lost between 22 and 37% year on year :sick:

    John
  • albellalbell Posts: 185
    Strip out the new S, and sales were pretty weak across the other product lines. Will be interesting to see if the tweaks revive E class sales.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    A little more on those coupes. For me it starts with the C126:

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    Then the C140:

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    Then the C215, which I thought was the best looking Mercedes since the 1990 SL:

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    Now of course the C216:

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    Stunning IMO. The design lineage is pretty strong from one design to the next.

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  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    I feel quite positive about these results: I see the MB glass as half full.

    The new S is really carrying the ball. Remember that Cadillac, Jaguar, Lexus trucks, Infiniti, Acura and others are not doing doing so well this year.

    My 3 old favorites - MB, GM and British luxury brands - sure give me fits. Seems only one at a time does well.
  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    What years was the silver coupe next to the C126 manufactured?

    As I told you, that is the first 'new' MB coupe I remember as a tadpole.

    I recall very few black or navy blue MB cars (especially coupes) in the 1960s. Silver, red, tan, dark green and brown were popular. Common interiors were red, tan/cream, brown and blue.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    What years was the silver coupe next to the C126 manufactured?

    Well that was the W111/W112 model, produced from 1961 to 1980 apparently with 28,918 units produced during those years. Anything before the 80's is iffy for me. Here is the article detailing all of them.

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  • wopelwopel Posts: 92
    Does anyone have numbers on the MPG of the upcoming R and GL diesels? As the E320 does so well with mpg, I'm hoping the other models do as well. However, I realize they are much heavier automobiles.
    I may have asked this before, but does anyone have a feel for the new pricing of the 320s? MB has a tendency to up the price for a diesel, so will that negate the better mileage?
  • rleyrley Posts: 4
    Just guessing, but I think the ML320CDI will be at 24/30 and the R320CDI at 24/31. I arrived at these figures by taking the difference between the E350 and E320CDI, (8mpg city, 10mpg hwy) and applying these figures to the ML350 and R350.

    The question one has to ask is: Does this difference in mileage make sense considering the inconvenience (small that it may be) of having to find diesel fuel and the difference in the initial cost of the vehicle? The cost of diesel in my area (Indiana) varies between the same as mid grade and sometimes as high as premium.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I meant to post this a few days ago, but it appears that more AMG models are on the way:

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    A model I don't see the point of actually, the GL63 AMG. Running the same 475-507hp 6.2L naturally aspirated V8 as all the other recently introduced "63" cars.

    Then of course there is the CL63 or C65 AMG:

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    Finally there are some really good detailed spy pics of the upcoming 2008 C-Class:

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    Then there is of course the C63 AMG:

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  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    I know you get this request every few months, but here goes again.

    Can you give us another of your brief "upcoming MB model" summaries? It's nice to see everything in compact list form.

    Thanks in advance! :)
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Sure!

    All the 07's are here now except the S550 4Matic (November), the ML/R/E diesels (October) and the new CL which is due in December.

    For 2008....the C-Class will be all new. The C230, 280, and C350 I expect to all return but the C230 and C280 will likely be called the C250 and C300 to reflect their actual engine sizes. The C350 I'm betting will get the direct-injection version of the 3.5L V6, good for 292hp. This class is moving fast in hp thanks to the 335i/IS350/G35.

    The SLK will get the usual mid-life facelift. The SLK350 will get the same engine as the 08' C350, and the SLK55 should become the SLK63 with something like 420-450hp.

    The SL, E, and CLK should all stay put until they get redesigned in 2010, 2009, and 2008 respectively.

    The new CL63 and S63 AMG versions of the CL and S-Class will be shown in Sept at the Paris Auto Show. Expected is a 525hp naturally aspirated version of the new AMG V8. These will land here next spring as early 08' models. I nor anyone else seems to know anything about the missing S450 version of the S-Class.

    The CLS might get a facelift for 2008, not sure. A GL320 CDI per Edmunds is dues in Jan, my first time hearing about it.

    That is all I can think of at the moment.....

    Oh....the SLK55 Black Series isn't likely to come here, but the upcoming CLK63 Black Series is, expect a breathtaking price!

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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I forgot the GLK is due in 2008. That is the smaller brother of the ML/GL. It will compete with the BMW X3, Audi Q5, Acura RDX etc. etc.

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  • I think the new C class will be a big boost for sales. It is the weak link in the lineup right now.

    Have you heard if there's any chance of a diesel C model coming here in the medium term?
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Have you heard if there's any chance of a diesel C model coming here in the medium term?

    Nope, haven't heard anything, but I'd bet that for 2009 we'd see a C-Class diesel if diesel sales of other Benzes really take off.

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  • It would sell well. The diesel C200 model is rated at 32 mpg city and 55 mpg hiway (imperial gallons) in the UK.

    That translates to about 27 mpg city and 46 mpg hiway in US gallons - pretty impressive.

    The 4 cylinder diesel would not be out of place in US C class, IMO. The 240D sold very well as long as it was offered here.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
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    The Mercedes-Benz S-Class is now available with 4MATIC permanent all-wheel drive. Developed entirely in-house by Mercedes-Benz, this all-new drive system combines perfect traction, first-class comfort and impressive driving dynamics with good fuel economy. Two powerful eight-cylinder models are available in the form of the S 500 4MATIC and S 450 4MATIC while the S 320 CDI 4MATIC is the first S-Class all-wheel-drive variant to be equipped with a particularly economical V6 diesel engine. The new models with all-wheel drive are identified clearly by the 4MATIC legend which appears both on the boot lid and on the wooden trim element on the centre console.

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